Kentucky - Judge killed, sheriff arrested in Letcher County courthouse shooting - Sep. 19, 2024 # 2

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Luna20 said:
That has to be a supply closet. No one can work with barely any room between wall and table/desk??

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I see the backpack.
What were those figure posters on the wall?

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Friday Fan said:
Here are the chambers from a different (clearer) view

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From the very clear photo @Friday Fan posted, the figures behind the judge look like miners on a quilt. I wonder if it was given to him in official capacity since he has it hanging in his office? (Something like it was given as thanks for help on a case related to a miner or miners?)

Also, I know it's just a split second but he looks/seems calm with a gun pointed at him. It either hadn't registered or he really didn't think MS would shoot.

MOO.
 
vls12345 said:
From the very clear photo @Friday Fan posted, the figures behind the judge look like miners on a quilt. I wonder if it was given to him in official capacity since he has it hanging in his office? (Something like it was given as thanks for help on a case related to a miner or miners?)

Also, I know it's just a split second but he looks/seems calm with a gun pointed at him. It either hadn't registered or he really didn't think MS would shoot.

MOO.
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Maybe the quilt is a Zoom background?
 
Parsnip said:
Not unusual at all, ime. The Sheriff’s department protects the courthouse. They have access to all of the rooms, as well as video footage.
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The issue of the bailiff’s access to the Judge’s chambers has always bothered me. I understand that he would have had access to ALMOST (IMO) area of the Courthouse, however, IME the Judge’s chambers are almost considered “sacred ground” with access only allowed by the Judge since a great deal of extremely confidential material may be within those walls.

I realize rules/restrictions may be less stringent in a small town where “everyone knows everyone”, but I still have trouble believing the bailiff had “unfettered” access to the Judge’s chambers after hours without the Judge being present or aware.

I am not saying the Judge knew and/or allowed access to the bailiff, but the whole scenario just seems “off”.

It also makes me wonder about the camera(s) in the chambers. When were they installed and why? Did the Judge and/or Sheriff know they were there? If the Judge knew they were there, was he able to activate/deactivate them or were they on a continuous loop? Was the audio always off or could that also be turned on/off by the Judge?

I can understand a camera(s) within the chambers WITH audio in the event of a discussion occurring between the Judge, attorneys, etc that needed to occur out of view of a jury, public, media, etc but which still needed to have a legal record. I just am having trouble wondering WHY there would be cameras recording on a “routine” basis.
 
vls12345 said:
From the very clear photo @Friday Fan posted, the figures behind the judge look like miners on a quilt. I wonder if it was given to him in official capacity since he has it hanging in his office? (Something like it was given as thanks for help on a case related to a miner or miners?)

Also, I know it's just a split second but he looks/seems calm with a gun pointed at him. It either hadn't registered or he really didn't think MS would shoot.

MOO.
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I am having a very hard time with the Sheriff being the bad guy. They voted for him. Next time I vote in a Sheriff I got a lot to think about. After all he is the face in public . Promising a protected county. I for real , am not sure if an appointed Judge who was forced to have camera's in his chambers.. is THE victim . Honestly to me it seems every voter is THE victim in this case. This should go on the permanent records of these guys. <modsnip>
 
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Thanks for the great find, @Friday Fan !!!

Yes, I can see what looks like a quilt.
And for the record, it looks more like an overstuffed briefcase, & not a Yeti Lunch Bag.
Also the chambers look larger than expected, but still smallish for a judge.
Omo.
 
Soulmagent said:
I am having a very hard time with the Sheriff being the bad guy. They voted for him. Next time I vote in a Sheriff I got a lot to think about. After all he is the face in public . Promising a protected county. I for real , am not sure if an appointed Judge who was forced to have camera's in his chambers.. is THE victim . Honestly to me it seems every voter is THE victim in this case. This should go on the permanent records of these guys. This case is not about their community and more about america , i feel . I can be dramatic as all get out.
It's a texan thing.
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lol respectfully, I cannot stand the victim blaming which feels weirdly cultural in this case. It’s happening everywhere I look and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I’m waiting for more facts of actual wrongdoing before I denounce a murdered, elected city official.
 
Angelcat13 said:
The issue of the bailiff’s access to the Judge’s chambers has always bothered me. I understand that he would have had access to ALMOST (IMO) area of the Courthouse, however, IME the Judge’s chambers are almost considered “sacred ground” with access only allowed by the Judge since a great deal of extremely confidential material may be within those walls.

I realize rules/restrictions may be less stringent in a small town where “everyone knows everyone”, but I still have trouble believing the bailiff had “unfettered” access to the Judge’s chambers after hours without the Judge being present or aware.

I am not saying the Judge knew and/or allowed access to the bailiff, but the whole scenario just seems “off”.

It also makes me wonder about the camera(s) in the chambers. When were they installed and why? Did the Judge and/or Sheriff know they were there? If the Judge knew they were there, was he able to activate/deactivate them or were they on a continuous loop? Was the audio always off or could that also be turned on/off by the Judge?

I can understand a camera(s) within the chambers WITH audio in the event of a discussion occurring between the Judge, attorneys, etc that needed to occur out of view of a jury, public, media, etc but which still needed to have a legal record. I just am having trouble wondering WHY there would be cameras recording on a “routine” basis.
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Given the activity that occurred there previously, I can see why. Because there is no audio, I confidential conversations are not compromised. Guarantees something like that won’t ever happen in the future.
 
Soulmagent said:
I am having a very hard time with the Sheriff being the bad guy. They voted for him. Next time I vote in a Sheriff I got a lot to think about. After all he is the face in public . Promising a protected county. I for real , am not sure if an appointed Judge who was forced to have camera's in his chambers.. is a victim . Honestly to me it seems every voter is a victim in this case. This should go on the permanent records of these guys. This case is not about their community and more about america , i feel . I can be dramatic as all get out.
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They also voted for the judge, numerous times. He was appointed in 2009 ( I believe the sitting judge had died) and then elected in Nov. 2010. Prior to that he was the elected DA starting in 2001. The judge was reelected in 2022.

That's how it works when there is a judicial vacancy in Texas. There is a temporary appointment until the next general election is held. Likewise, if a sheriff dies in office or as in the case "retired" the position would also be appointed until the next general election. These positions are not eligible for special elections.

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Kevin R. Mullins, 54, had been a district judge in Letcher County, Kentucky, for 15 years. Before that, he was a prosecutor in Letcher County, starting in 2001. The official title is assistant commonwealth’s attorney. He graduated from the University of Kentucky and the Louis D. Brandeis School of Law at the University of Louisville.

Mullins was appointed in 2009 by Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear and was elected in his own right a year later, according to The Mountain Eagle. He has been reelected ever since. Mullins’ death was confirmed by the current governor, Andy Beshear, son of Steve Beshear.

The is the sheriff's second term. He was first elected in 2018.

 
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Dre said:
lol respectfully, I cannot stand the victim blaming which feels weirdly cultural in this case. It’s happening everywhere I look and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I’m waiting for more facts of actual wrongdoing before I denounce a murdered, elected city official.
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Kentucky sheriff charged in killing of judge at courthouse
Stines survived ? I am confused. per normal.
appointed by former Gov. Steve Beshear in 2009 and elected the following year. K I am good now.
 
Dre said:
lol respectfully, I cannot stand the victim blaming which feels weirdly cultural in this case. It’s happening everywhere I look and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I’m waiting for more facts of actual wrongdoing before I denounce a murdered, elected city official.
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Someone posted a great quote upthread about “good motive, still murder” and it fits this situation like a glove.
Even if the most far out motive speculations are true, nothing justifies this.

Or maybe we just make this kind of action legal and see how that goes?
 
Simply Southern said:
Is that a cigarette in the judges hand?
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Are all the cups for use as disposable ashtrays? I’ve seen this done with a little water in them. He has two cups in front of him. One coffee, one ashtray? Is that a silver-colored lighter as well? And a can of air freshener? The office almost looks like a hidden picture page…
 
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