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@YankeeTrucker the DAs office was on the scene the night Katie and Bowie were discovered. I can't recall where I read this or I'd link it in however it was MSM.
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@YankeeTrucker the DAs office was on the scene the night Katie and Bowie were discovered. I can't recall where I read this or I'd link it in however it was MSM.
How can there not be a threat to the public? A woman was brutalized and murdered by an unknown person. In a location with pedestrian traffic, albeit late at night. How is APD sure this person won't strike again?
It really doesn't sound like there's been an official answer on whether Katie walked down Piedmont Road and entered the park through 11th/12th street, or if they continued on 10th and entered that way.
One point of context. Katie and Emma lived about .7 miles south of Piedmont Park. Near the intersection of North Ave and Myrtle. Myrtle Street runs directly to almost the entrance of Piedmont Park.
On a normal day, if they walked their dogs to Piedmont Park, you'd likely be taking Myrtle 90% of the time. The nearest entrance is right after Post Midtown Apts, I refer to it as the "10th street entrance" but not sure if others do. It's a sidewalk in Piedmont Park that runs parallel to 10th. Using that as context because if they were coming from Henry's, they'd probably feel more comfortable entering the park on 10th street, and using that sidewalk.
I'm a male, who walks dogs in the park and there's really no way I'd want to enter via 12th/11th with the goal of taking the larger walkway through the park to exit at Charles Allen. It's really not well lit at all and has a ton of tree canopy coverage that makes it even darker (more secluded) than normal.
My initial instinct was they were walking on the 10th street sidewalk (not PP sidewalk.) Because at night, it's not well lit--and you'd likely encounter at least 5 or 6 homeless people who may try to engage in conversation with you. That happens during the daytime, I'd definitely want to avoid it at night.
If they did take the Piedmont Park sidewalk that runs parallel to 10th, that will bring you right up to the Charles Allen entrance. I'd likely be exiting there to turn around and take 10th street to Myrtle to head home (or to Henrys.) You of course could take Charles Allen to Ponce, but that's a sketchier route in general.
Since they haven't released (maybe intentional) photos of Katie walking on the 10th street sidewalk, my best guess is that they were on the Piedmont Park sidewalk which runs parallel to 10th. Upon nearing the Charles Allen entrance I'd wager someone was possibly hiding there. They may have encountered Bowie (which would match up with where body was found, and Katie may have run away and ended up over to the right by the tree where she was found.)
I just find it so hard to believe that she would want enter Piedmont Park from 11th or 12th street entrances. It's way out of the way, and significantly sketchier at night.
Last input I have, is I really hope they reached out to all the residential houses that live East of Monroe and border the park. I'd also wager Park Tavern has some cameras. I really doubt the Killer exited at a main entrance. If I was trying to leave undetected, I'd probably head towards Park Drive or Amsterdam to exit the area.
It is about 700 meters from the crosswalk to Charles Allen Gate. I would think that with a dog, stopping to sniff stuff, it would take maybe 15 minutes to walk that. She was allegedly at the crosswalk at 12:09 I think. So that would put her near the gate around 12:24 or so. That would to me, seem to about the beginning of the time frame that I think the attack could have occurred. I was thinking anywhere from 12:30 to 12:50. I still would like to know at what time did Emma try to text Katie and not get a response. But I don't know if Emma has said.That’s great information! 2 questions…
1. At a leisure pace, how long would it take to walk from the rainbow crosswalk up 10th to the Charles Allen Gate?
2. What is visibility like along the Piedmont Park sidewalk vs where her body was found? It may be a weird question, but I’m getting the impression that this whole area is very dark.
That’s great information! 2 questions…
1. At a leisure pace, how long would it take to walk from the rainbow crosswalk up 10th to the Charles Allen Gate?
2. What is visibility like along the Piedmont Park sidewalk vs where her body was found? It may be a weird question, but I’m getting the impression that this whole area is very dark.
The darkness in the park is what makes me think the killer crossed paths with Katie elsewhere, then followed her and positioned himself in a location to surprise her.
It wouldn’t make sense for the killer lie in wait all night and attack a complete random. Because in that area at that hour, it sounds like his odds would’ve been just as likely to accidentally pounce on a machete welding homeless man. He had to know who or what he was attacking.
Maybe I’m crazy (rhetorical), but I feel this person is on camera somewhere. LE aren’t really asking for the publics help right now and everything is quiet. I think this is a positive sign for justice.
I hope you're right. I hope they have the information they need, and they're tying up loose ends, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts and getting ready to arrest this psycho.
Your second paragraph brings me back to my uneasy feeling that this was personal, though. I just keep thinking that unless it's a serial with a very specific MO and some practice, stabbing/up-close killing tends to be personal, mutilation tends to be personal, and working in the bar/restaurant industry, she'd know people who know their way around a sharp knife.
I keep circling back to it’s someone she encountered earlier in the night at some point and this person had bad intentions from the beginning. Possibly at Emma’s work. I see this as a face to face attack, like you said, personal. Whether that be personal against women or for some other reason. If it was a woman thing, they had to have been about to tell Katie was a woman outside of all of that darkness.
I just don’t see the killer hiding, thinking to himself “the next person that walks this way when none are around, I’m killing them.”
but why choose someone with a dog??
Headline from main local paper and quoted from the Mayor.I was just at Piedmont Park.... Entering from the entrance where Katie and Bowie were found. They claim to have "added police presence" there were 4 police standing out across the street talking... once you go into the park NOTHING. If that person is still in the area you could easily be attacked in there and the police wouldn't have heard or seen anything. They need to get them on bikes actually patroling the park. ATL people I would say this park still isn't "safe" and don't go there alone.
Also what are everyones opinions on why the FBI got involved? I know they said they needed "additional resources" but I think theres much more to it than that. Possible hate crime/serial?
Also what are everyones opinions on why the FBI got involved? I know they said they needed "additional resources" but I think theres much more to it than that. Possible hate crime/serial?
Not saying you are incorrect, but can you please provide a link or the source if you wind up recalling? My understanding is that to date the FBI has not confirmed its role to the public. (Nor has APD).Hate Crimes and Behavioral Science are two different units, and at one point I was able to finally confirm that it was a team from Behavioral Science that came on board. I don’t remember where, exactly, but it was a MSM news source.