What type of information concerning this crime will likely be given during SM's next court appearance? I'm not asking for specifics just what type can be expected. How much evidence will have to be revealed to keep SM charged with this crime?
respectfully snipped for focusAfter having watched someone use a saw recently, I can imagine that the tool of convenience (hacksaw) was actually fairly tedious and time consuming to use, for such a gruesome and despicable act of dismemberment.
I'm afraid it would be extremely difficult to determine COD at this late date unless, perhaps, the skull showed signs of injury.This is a good timely article, especially since it is from a source other than the locals who I am totally frustrated with. I found a few things interesting: This is the first time I have heard Lauren, she truly was a beautiful girl in every way. Interesting that police say they do not have a motive. Kaitlyn said when McD bragged about being able to get away with murder, he referred to a murder similar to Lauren's ( this may have been pointed out earlier or part of the warrant , come to think of it) And the search for the rest of her body,I still believe, is not only for closure but to establish the cause of death.
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Actually, a hacksaw is one of the most efficient tools for the task. Granted, the quality of the blade on a run-of-the-mill Stanley hacksaw is inferior to an actual surgical instrument, but a surgical bone saw is basically a hacksaw.
What type of information concerning this crime will likely be given during SM's next court appearance? I'm not asking for specifics just what type can be expected. How much evidence will have to be revealed to keep SM charged with this crime?
If you do stop by the Zaxby's, have a look around the intersection there.
I have a feeling based on the description of what they said the video showed
that the video may have come from a DOT camera.
Have a look and see if it's pointed in that direction.
I'd be interested to know, but I don't know when I'll be in that part of town next...
OH... I must have missed that :doh:I posted earlier that I talked to a family member of the owner of the Zaxby's and it was their video.
If the latest evidence is sufficient to charge him with malice murder, some of that evidence will be presented at the prelim. Guess we'll have to wait and see.From what I (not a lawyer) understand...
At this commitment hearing, the DA only needs to show probable cause.
The difference between this and getting the warrant is that the defense will be present
and will have a chance to argue the evidence, and present his own if he likes to refute the charge.
We've been told there is no "discovery" rules for this, so the DA will most likely start with
the evidence on the warrant, then see what Buford has to counter this, then go from there.
I'm sure they'll continue to keep as much evidence undisclosed as possible.
But, hopefully we'll get at least some new bit of info out of this.
Next would be the Grand Jury.
Here the DA will basically present everything they have.
This is not public, the defense will not be present, and we will not know what is disclosed (unless leaked).
I believe at this point, or maybe even before the Grand Jury, Buford could file other motions,
like another conflict of interest or change of venue, etc.
But, one of the lawyers here will have to chime in to give details
So, in summary, we may get a little more at this hearing next week.
Then, unless info is leaked, we won't know any more until the trial. :banghead:
ETA: As to what "type" of evidence... since they only have to show probable cause at this hearing,
if anything new does come out, it will be the weaker of any evidence they have.
Mercer Students Move Into Their New Homes
http://www.13wmaz.com/rss/article/140696/153/Mercer-Student-Move-in-to-Their-New-Homes
Classes start Tuesday. And life rolls on... :bicycle:
Couple of responses from further up the line here.
First, when it comes to tossing tools in the trash, that is incredibly common. I have done it, as has probably most anyone I know. Who would imagine someone taking something out of the trash that you considered broken and worthless and then using it to kill someone? Burying a tool is probably against the law somewhere. Some environmental thing. I have no problem with the plausibility of tossing a tool in the trash. Not that this really happened, but the idea of it is plausible.
Second, the master key was reportedly not able to open the storage closet. I remember that was a discussion here long, long, and many threads back. That was a bee in the bonnet of McD being nailed by having it found there. Not that he couldn't have gotten in there, but the key they reportedly linked to him did not open that closet. I hope someone remembers posting about that before. IF the link is still available, it may have been edited, but I will try to locate it myself.
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Okay, I think I may have sparked the conversation about whether or not Stephen had access to the "storage room" so I'll state again what I heard.
Probably two weeks ago (before the murder charge) someone told me that police had removed a hacksaw from a storage room that was on the property. Notice I said room, so big enough that someone could walk into is the way it was described to me. The person said that Stephen's master key didn't open that room. But the person could have been wrong. Or since he had a direct key that opened Lauren's door, maybe he also had a key specifically to the room. Or maybe he's handy enough to be able to pick locks. On second thought, police stated that it was locked so I guess no picking; he wouldn't have been able to lock it back.
Couple of responses from further up the line here.
First, when it comes to tossing tools in the trash, that is incredibly common. I have done it, as has probably most anyone I know. Who would imagine someone taking something out of the trash that you considered broken and worthless and then using it to kill someone? Burying a tool is probably against the law somewhere. Some environmental thing. I have no problem with the plausibility of tossing a tool in the trash. Not that this really happened, but the idea of it is plausible.
Second, the master key was reportedly not able to open the storage closet. I remember that was a discussion here long, long, and many threads back. That was a bee in the bonnet of McD being nailed by having it found there. Not that he couldn't have gotten in there, but the key they reportedly linked to him did not open that closet. I hope someone remembers posting about that before. IF the link is still available, it may have been edited, but I will try to locate it myself.
IMO a key element that is often overlooked in the warrant is the key statement immediately preceding the statement that follows about the Stanley hacksaw being found in a LOCKED storage room of the apt complex..
And that is the statement BBM ^above^ which specifically(and IMO intentionally) states that found to be in Stephen's possession was a masterkey that unlocked all doors in the apartment complex.. which as I stated IMO is no accident that it was worded specifically to say UNLOCKED EVERY DOOR IN THE COMPLEX.. immediately preceding the statement of exactly where the Stanley hacksaw was found..
DD the person labeled as MM my Stephen in his statements to his mom and his attorney Buford.. Much to Stephen's dismay not only was he wrong in labeling DD as a Maintenance Man for BH, IMO he was wrong in assuming this Maintenance Man had access to all the apts(<- which Stephen also made in his statement) by having a masterkey in his possession.. DD was never anything more than a resident contact and was never given a masterkey/access to All apts in the complex..
So while some opinions about*the statement regarding the hacksaw and it's packaging specifically belong to the the particular hacksaw used and contained Lauren's DNA can be argued whether it "matched" .. The clear and precise wording that precedes it let's you know exactly that Stephen had access to the locked storage area not DD..
That's why I asked. And GT&T clarified where that part came from. If there was an article verifying or anything else, I would love to see it. Not seeing it at this point.
I do agree with unsubstantiated rumors. I know a lot of people are sharing them all over the place. Including rumors of DNA issues and all. But, some of you already know that. I know rumors are rumors, that is why I ask all the questions.