GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #8

[2anthro]

He backed into a parking spot next to another car, no way he didn't look over his shoulder

Did Harris ordinarily back into work parking spaces? Did Harris ordinarily park in that area? I notice that at my workplace there are devoted backers, devoted close-in parkers, devoted edge of the lot parkers.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

They don't fool me, either. My radar is fine-tuned.

When my adult daughter brought home a boyfriend (who a year later kidnapped her from her home in the middle of the night after she broke up with him and dragged her to the woods with the intent to murder her), I knew the second I met him that he was no good.

It wasn't based on his physical appearance, either, because he was an attractive, friendly man.

It was based on something I learned to trust without question many many years ago: my intuition.

I have read many articles over the years where they sure have been able to fool a lot of psychiatrists and psychologists though and even some of the finest doctors in the nation. Even the psyche doctors admit they have been and can be fooled.

Heck even Ann Rule was totally fooled by Ted Bundy even though she sat right by him at the rape crisis center and she was in law enforcement. She thought he would be a senator one day. So while not everyone can be fooled by them a lot more people are fooled than not, imo. They are very good at what they do. Look at the double life RH was living. He had to be good at covering up who he really was because until today everyone who had spoken out about him talked about what a great person and dad he was.

Most psychopaths or sociopaths don't murder anyone though. A lot of them are highly successful in whatever profession they choose. Many are CEOs of large corporations. They excel in business because they do not care who they have to trample to get to the very top and stay there.

I would never say with all certainty I could pick someone out who would be certified as being one but I do know arrogance, coldness, and narcissism when I see it, and of course would stay away from anyone exhibiting those traits. Or if they exhibited any type of criminal behavior.

Even with my own father being a sociopath I am still not certain I could identify each and every one I came in contact with. They are also individuals even if they are sociopaths.

I think we all have instincts to detect bad people like this but some just rely on those instincts more than others. As far as Ross and his wife, I think they are two peas in a pod.

It has always amazed me by all the millions of people we have here in our country how two same type personalities with the same traits will find each other somehow. Even those that are sociopathic in nature.

I think that is why we are seeing more and more female/male teams who are raping and murdering victims or victimizing them in other ways such as armed robberies or home invasions. They seem to be drawn to each other like a moth to a flame.

IMO

 

[newone]

If anyone is on the fence about Mom, read the transcripts from the bond hearing. Wondering if she'll confess or kill herself... Don't think she has the nerve to allow her role to be played out in court.


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I think she's having dinner with her attorney tonight to cop a plea before dear husband does.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Ice water runs thru those veins.
Two peas in a pod.

IMO


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I have to tell you, That normally, I would think this was dramatic, But in this case, I have to agree. I don't know that I have ever seen anything like this before.

I remember friends from church, Who knew that their child who had passed was with Jesus, And yet, when they tried to take that casket out of the church the father grabbed it and would not let it go. He was in agony. Now I know not everyone grieves the same way, But the loss of a child is soooo much. The darkest of what a person could face.

I just have not heard one person talk about either of these two mourning.

 

[Tulessa]

I have three bulging discs in my neck, am in extreme pain, and had to take dreaded pain meds. I also watched that horrible trial today. So if i'm not making sense, please roll and scroll.

 

[TorisMom003]

Here is something weird.

The detective said that LH left for work at 7:15 am on the 18th, but then he said she worked from home.

Perhaps she had a meeting of some sort that she had to go to. Who knows.

 

[laceandruffles]

If Leanna went to the daycare at 4:51 to pick up Cooper, (when she said "Ross must have left him in the car"), wouldn't the daycare people have told her that Cooper had died?

He left work at 4:16, it takes about 10 minutes (probably less) to get to Akers Mill.

What time was this 6 minute phone call from Ross to the daycare? It had to be after 4:51 right?

Just re-watching the hearing from today and this is bugging me.

Also, he received an email from the daycare at 1:30pm. Probably a group email for all those who didn't drop off their kid. But still.....I wonder if it went to a joint email account or if such emails are sent to dad and mom.

 

[blue22]

Not taking up for the scum by any means but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good employee. Often the company will be looking at more than one when they are going to promote someone. The one they chose may have had more experience.

IMO

No, the sexting all day and taking junk pics means he wasn't a good employee.

 

[MotherOcean]

I cant get over what L.H said. She would rather see him instead of her baby. When I lost my brother, husband and dad(all separate occasions, all very unexpected) I screamed, begged, collapsed all in front of people I had to verify it all my self. I had to see them all to make sense otherwise I would never believe it. Her reaction and blasé attitude have me very concerned that this wasn't a accident at all. Mind you as well my losses were men aged 25, 35 and 59 and yes traumatic but definitely not the loss of my child. I would have begged to see my baby. So very sad for Copper.

Several years ago, my husband called me late at night. He and our children were on a camping trip and I was home alone. He called to tell me that a friend of ours from church (not a close friend) and his ten year old son (who we taught in the children's ministry program) had been killed that afternoon in a car accident. I wailed. I screamed and screamed. I screamed so loudly that my mother who was next door (and the houses are very far apart, like over half an acre away) came over to check on me. The feelings that hit me to find out that this child and his father were GONE just overwhelmed me with pain for their family. It was a total nightmare.

 

[newone]

I'm certainly not defending her - but if she was controlled, which IMO, it seems she was (and it fits, to me, his profile that he would marry a women who would be easily controlled and manipulated) then I think she KNEW what happened because she knew from talking to him, his internet searches, etc that it was a possibility and that this would be the modus operandi, so when he wasn't there, she already knew the plan because he had told her.

What I'm talking about is conditioning over a long period of time - trying to get her gradual acceptance of the 'inevitable' (Cooper's death.) Allowing her to research and discover and discuss what he was going to do, having her feel powerless to stop him. So, of course, she would worry about him being locked up for life / telling the police too much, etc because she was conditioned to be reliant on him, and she knew he murdered their son but wanted him to get away with it.

In her powerlessness, and assuming she was controlled by him, she probably didn't want to imagine her life without him. She may have been willing to accept her son dying in order to keep her marriage in tact, especially after a long period of conditioning and coming to accept the death of her son. This would be coupled with her religious beliefs and then branwashing her to believe that a negative deed actually created positive reactions for all parties (them as individuals, as a married couple, and for Cooper - in Heaven.)

I don't know - I have criticized her consistently in my postings and I have been rolling my eyes at her comments and behaviors. However, I'm just trying to look at it from a different perspective. Not that knowing and not preventing it makes her less complicit or anything, IF SHE IS INVOLVED (which I know, she has not been charged so all is MOO.)

and then the day comes when the abused........becomes an abuser

 

[katydid23]

Here is something weird.

The detective said that LH left for work at 7:15 am on the 18th, but then he said she worked from home.

I think I understand why he said that. My niece is a registered dietician. And she 'works' from home, essentially. That is here her 'office' is and where she makes phonecalls and communications and has some meetings. But her clients include people in hospitals and corporations and she has regular visits at various places.

So she may have gone to visit a client for work at 7:30, although her office is at home.

 

[Kensie]

I have three bulging discs in my neck, am in extreme pain, and had to take dreaded pain meds. I also watched that horrible trial today. So if i'm not making sense, please roll and scroll.

Hope you feel better soon. Pain is no fun.

 

[strawberry]

Have you read his reddit stuff?

He's an expert at everything and he's emotes at a fortune 50 company....

Eyeroll...


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Where can I find this?

 

[blue22]

NO. He thinks to highly of himself.

MOO

I think he would "try" in an attempt for sympathy.

 

[laceandruffles]

That was one of the little teasers the investigator mentioned in court today. Ross denied speaking with anyone during those 6 minutes. If Ross doesn't plea, that's only one of the many grenades that will explode in his face during the trial.


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One of his sexting buddies a day care worker? That might be it. Then he/she left after getting that call and prior to LH arriving. ????

 

[RANCH]

the financials have not yet been compiled by LE according to today's testimony I think that we will learn they are in debt ((2 cars)) student loans etc

I have a feeling that we will see why collecting the $27,000 looked attractive to JRH when we see the financials. Elimination of child costs may be something that they can prove JRH thought about.

JMO.

 

[cluciano63]

Did he sext often or every day from work? If so, I could see a defense using this in trying to say there is no connection.

 

[Suthrnqt]

rsbm: I believe he went about his usual business because he felt he would be believed without question- period.

That's what I think, too.

 

[Winter67]

I knew with the distance thing last week but wow. He truly thought he would get away with it and he would have if he didn't stop for breakfast there. It was too close to forget. That did him in. But I hate to see the mother crucified this quick, he had everyone fooled and completely. His pastor up there, his Police Sgt. brother, everyone. The pictures, that was a happy baby. I think he built her up for this, maybe a trial run earlier for a few minutes, the searches, the fear of it happening and than it did. That was her first thought and her worst nightmare happening.
I think she's truly going to fall apart after today. I watched NG video and it showed the mom, she may have been chewing gum but she had to stop and really try to breathe in between. I could be wrong, but that guy had everyone fooled. He was a great father, I've heard it, seen it and he still did this. There's no doubt in anyone's mind tonight. It will be interesting to see what stand she takes after this.

 

[laceandruffles]

Here is something weird.

The detective said that LH left for work at 7:15 am on the 18th, but then he said she worked from home.

Went to see client? Meet w/ coworker for breakfast?