GA-Winder-Massive police presence at Apalachee High School.

[kaen]

Next, we need some answers as to how this alleged killer got the gun out of his home, how he got to the school AND how he got that gun into the school.

 

[Betty P]

4 the son or dad

Colin Gray, 54, is being charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children, GBI said. The shooting suspect has been charged with four counts of felony murder.

Father of Georgia high school shooting suspect arrested

The father of Colt Gray, the suspected gunman in the Apalachee High School shooting, has been arrested.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Mama-dukes]

Dad.

Ok now every news story is different from what 6abc said I copied and put up

Gray's father, Colin Gray, 54, has also been arrested and charged.

Colin Gray is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children.

 

[Mama-dukes]

Next, we need some answers as to how this alleged killer got the gun out of his home, how he got to the school AND how he got that gun into the school.

do we know what kind it was

 

[Bounceycat]

Georgia is ok with this kind of thing. Its why they allow degenerate fathers to buy AR 15 style weapons for 14 yo kids.

The penalty is 1 to 10 yrs. They won't give him max because the local judges probably think the same way as the father. I'll wager he'll have his sentenced reduced to 1 yr, 2 max.

For 2nd degree murder? I'm seeing 10 to 30 years per count as possible sentence.

 

[Breezie]

Anyone know why only 2 counts of 2nd degree murder right now?

This article answers that question.

Father of Georgia school shooting suspect arrested on charges including second-degree murder

The father of the teenager accused of opening fire at a Georgia high school, killing four people and wounding nine, has been arrested on various charges including second-degree murder, authorities said Thursday.

www.nbcdfw.com

In Georgia, second-degree murder means that a person has caused the death of another person while committing second-degree cruelty to children, regardless of intent. It is punishable by 10 to 30 years in prison, while malice murder and felony murder carry a minimum sentence of life.

 

[Inthedetails]

Oh my.

Not surprised but still…

It is what it is.

MOO

My question is - are parents around the country getting the message? Are they getting rid of guns in the home if they have a young family member who is troubled?

My guess: nope.

jmo

 

[Mama-dukes]

This article answers that question.

Father of Georgia school shooting suspect arrested on charges including second-degree murder

The father of the teenager accused of opening fire at a Georgia high school, killing four people and wounding nine, has been arrested on various charges including second-degree murder, authorities said Thursday.

www.nbcdfw.com

In Georgia, second-degree murder means that a person has caused the death of another person while committing second-degree cruelty to children, regardless of intent. It is punishable by 10 to 30 years in prison, while malice murder and felony murder carry a minimum sentence of life.

That really explains it better thank you

 

[Izzylizzy]

That Michigan shooter was charged as an adult and it didn't affect the ability to also charge his parents. My question is more about the law in Georgia, and if it allows for the father to be charged in the first place.

Has/will Fani Willis made a statement?

AG Nessel Issues Statement on New Charges in Oxford ...​

State of Michigan (.gov)
https://www.michigan.gov › press-releases › 2021/12/03

Dec 3, 2021 — LANSING - Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel ... "I fully support Prosecutor McDonald's issuance of charges against Jennifer and James Crumbley .

 

[Puzzles8]

"Colin Gray, age 54, has been charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children."

My question is why only two counts of second degree murder?
Also what was the reasoning behind the eight counts of cruelty to children?

At the press conference, the officials also expressed that these are just the start of charges and more charges may still come

JMO

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-school-shooting-georgia-09-05-24/index.html

 

[fred&edna]

My question is - are parents around the country getting the message? Are they getting rid of guns in the home if they have a young family member who is troubled?

My guess: nope.

jmo

How many parents have had some sort of murder charges filed against them in similar situations? ETA: If it (charges) occurs more frequently then maybe open-access to guns will become limited? Maybe?

 

[Izzylizzy]

My question is - are parents around the country getting the message? Are they getting rid of guns in the home if they have a young family member who is troubled?

My guess: nope.

jmo

I thought most gun owners and 2A supporters paid attention to the Crumbley charges/convictions, especially those with children.
Silly me,

 

[Otterly]

do we know what kind it was

According to NPR an "AR-style platform weapon".

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/05/nx-s1-5101890/apalachee-high-school-shooting-charges-investigation

 

[Betty P]

For 2nd degree murder? I'm seeing 10 to 30 years per count as possible sentence.

For now, I'll wait and see what the second degree murder charge. He's already been charged with involuntary manslaughter for the 4 deaths. His son killed 4 people. Not sure where they're coming up two of them getting a second degree murder charge. It's Georgia, though, so who knows.

JMO, it's for PR purposes.

 

[vlbay]

My question is - are parents around the country getting the message? Are they getting rid of guns in the home if they have a young family member who is troubled?

My guess: nope.

jmo

i mean it seems like a lot of these kids come from families where the parents have extremely poor judgment and are dealing with their own mental health/anger/addiction/personality problems. Since guns are easily available, what's stopping the most irresponsible, incapable, impulsive, impaired folks in every community from allowing their offspring open access to dangerous weapons? We've seen one family successfully charged and their behavior was exceptionally egregious.

 

[Bounceycat]

Has/will Fani Willis made a statement?

Why would she? She's Fulton County DA, right? This case is not in Fulton County. How would she have jurisdiction?

 

[Lilibet]

I’m so glad they’ve arrested the father so quickly!

 

[m00c0w]

Has/will Fani Willis made a statement?

AG Nessel Issues Statement on New Charges in Oxford ...​

State of Michigan (.gov)
https://www.michigan.gov › press-releases › 2021/12/03

Dec 3, 2021 — LANSING - Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel ... "I fully support Prosecutor McDonald's issuance of charges against Jennifer and James Crumbley .

She’s the DA for a completely different county, so probably not?

 

[Bounceycat]

For now, I'll wait and see what the second degree murder charge. He's already been charged with involuntary manslaughter for the 4 deaths. His son killed 4 people. Not sure where they're coming up two of them getting a second degree murder charge. It's Georgia, though, so who knows.

JMO, it's for PR purposes.

This post explains why. I believe the 2 second degree charges will stick:

Post in thread 'GA-Winder-Massive police presence at Apalachee High School.'
GA-Winder-Massive police presence at Apalachee High School.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Why would she? She's Fulton County DA, right? This case is not in Fulton County. How would she have jurisdiction?

Thanks.
I was thinking of Georgia's AG like the Michigan Nessel link I posted and musta had Fani on my mind from all the Georgia political stuff.