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Hi Tiffany! Thanks for posting the beautiful pictures of Janet at her collegiate graduation (there in the media links thread for all who haven't seen them yet!).

Who is the man with her in the second picture giving her the bear.
Kind of looks like Raven from the side but not really... looks more like a brother of hers. Are you able to chare who he is?
If not, I understand. You can pm me too.
That is just such a cute photo and I really thank you for sharing it!

~ Prayers for Maura Murray and Janet Abaroa ~
 
Jenifred said:
Our conversations have seemed to have died down. I hope that it's just the long weekend.

Has anyone been able to find any information of the soccer game that Raven was at the night Janet was murdered? I don't think that we have found out if it was a league game or a pickup game. I've been looking and can't find a thing.
Regarding your first point, yes conversations have died down.
I also wonder if we scared MissYouJanet away... maybe she is out of town but she hasn't posted in a few days.
I am getting discouraged with the lack of media coverage and LE info.

I had received a message from someone who told me that Raven actually played in a soccer game that night... I wonder if this is true. If so, how was his demeanor at the game, when did he get there, when was it over, etc.

Anyone, anyone?
Buehler, Buehler
 
anneshirley said:
I don't know about everyone else, but I know I'm getting really discouraged with the lack of word from reporter and LE. Perhaps that's what's causing the lapse in conversations.
That's a big part of it for me, Anne girl ( Marilla's pet name for Anne Shirley).
I mean, without hard evidence, how much can we continue to speculate and wonder?
At some point it becomes absurd. I reached my saturation level and am very upset that the case is not going forward..I keep thinking that the very next news we receive will be that Samuel Peters AKA Raven Abaroa has fled, and is a fugitive on both embezzlement counts and murder one. JMHO, of course.
 
golfmom said:


SHOW ME THE POLYGRAPH!


It's over there in the corner, being held by the Invisible Man. Can't you see it? :laugh: He's laughing at all of us. You know that, too, and it hurts a lot.
I think we love Janet more than he ever did.
 
PrayersForMaura said:
I also wonder if we scared MissYouJanet away... maybe she is out of town but she hasn't posted in a few days.
I don't think that it was us, I think that it was Janet's family member with her very powerful post.
 
misterallgood said:
The Murder of Janet Abaroa... Over a Month...

New blog entry up. Much of it regular readers here will already know, but I do state some things more forthrightly than I have perhaps, in the past.

Mr. A.
Great blog!
The thing in the blog that hurts my heart--the whole thing about Raven thinking that Janet would also be unfaithful. Geez, how low can you get, Raven?? You want everyone on your level? I think that she knew the way to get to you and it wasn't being unfaithful, it was Kaiden.
 
Still no additional info from my source. I've planned a little field trip tomorrow to Durham. It's not too far away, so I'll probably go in the morning and take as many pictures of the crime scene as possible. I did a Mapquest search tonight for directions, and it seems pretty easy to reach. I hate that we haven't heard any "new" news. If LE is still talking to Raven, perhaps they've refocused on him, based on circumstantial evidence?
 
golfmom said:
I wrote Eric Olson specifically asking about the embezzlement charges and the following is his response . . .

I just spoke with the assistant district attorney handling the embezzlement cases in Orange County. All the charges remain pending for a court date of June 10. At that point, the ADA (Jacqueline Perez) is simply meeting with his attorney. There is nothing else planned aside from that date at this point.

Hope that clarifies things for you. But if not, please feel free to write again if you have further questions.

-Eric Olson
...........came across this re: his court date of june 10th..

http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/servlet/calendars.Criminal.do?county=670&court=CR+&defendant=Abaroa&start=0&navindex=0&submit=Submit+Query

District Court of ORANGE County

DefendantDate of
BirthCourt
DateCourt
RoomSessionCase
NumberCitation
Number ABAROA,RAVEN 10/11/1979 06/10/2005 0002 PM 2005CR050503

...........case #'s 2005CR050503 through 2005CR050507 so that substantiates that there are five charges...edited to add: each charge listed as 'felony embezzlement'....
 
misterallgood said:
12:28 a.m. EDT, June 1, 2005 --

IP 151.198.232.10
Country
United States
Region New Jersey
City
Secaucus
ISP
Current Affair

Go figure.

Mr. A.
.now that's excellent.............maybe the email campaign golfmom kicked off today brought someone snooping around.....
 
:laugh:
anneshirley said:
Sheesh...it all seems a lot easier on Law and Order, doesn't it?:confused:
You mean have the crime take place, the evidence collected, the results returned, the trial and sentencing all in one hour???
 
misterallgood said:
The Murder of Janet Abaroa... Over a Month...

New blog entry up. Much of it regular readers here will already know, but I do state some things more forthrightly than I have perhaps, in the past.

Mr. A.
Great Blog.......have some questions/thoughts
:
"But then there is the crime he is accused of; embezzling from his former employer, Eurosport, out of Hillsborough, North Carolina. I have been told recently that Raven was actually accused of embezzling $9,000 worth of goods, not money -- perhaps even the shirt pictured at left with the snarky fake name "P. NESS" on it. He has a court date for a hearing on these charges -- June 10th, 2005."

Wouldn't it be public record what he stole? It would make sense that it would be listed on the complaint.




"According to an e-mail from Durham reporter Eric Olson (not the Eric Olsen of blogcritics.org) my websleuths friend "golfmom" forwarded, Raven has to appear for that court date:
From: "Eric Olson"
To: "*****" <************@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:43:09 -0400
Subject: RE: Abaroa case question and information

I just spoke with the assistant district attorney handling the embezzlement cases in Orange County. She told me that is not the case at all. All the charges remain pending for a court date of June 10. At that point, the ADA (Jacqueline Perez) is simply meeting with his attorney. There is nothing else planned aside from that date at this point.

Hope that clarifies things for you. But if not, please feel free to write again if you have further questions.

-Eric Olson



If that is the case, then Raven surely could not be planning, as another e-mail source stated, to head to Maine to stay with an Uncle soon, and then to Utah to stay with his sister. Would that not constitute an unlawful flight from prosecution? It likely would -- but that information did not come from anyone in the immediate family so it could be erroneous or due to some kind of misunderstanding."

IMO, Raven could leave NC and head to Virginia, Maine or Utah or wherever as long as he shows up to the Court dates and isn't charged with the murder of Janet Abaroa. It doesn't seem to me that it would be an unlawful flight from prosecution if he appeared in Court when he was ordered to. IMO, if Raven is making these travel plans, he believes his attorney will be handling the embezzlement charges and will appear when necessary AND he believes he is not a suspect in the murder of his wife.

The other item that doesn't make sense to me is that at the court hearing, the ADA is simply meeting with the attorney. Does that mean Raven doesn't have to appear? Someone would have to let the Court know what the status of the case is, whether it's a continuance in order to work out a deal or whether they are moving forward with prosecution. The case file should show the status.........ok, now that we have the case numbers, we need someone to go to the Court house and pull the file to get some answers here:banghead: !!!!!!
 
NCBanker said:
Still no additional info from my source. I've planned a little field trip tomorrow to Durham. It's not too far away, so I'll probably go in the morning and take as many pictures of the crime scene as possible. I did a Mapquest search tonight for directions, and it seems pretty easy to reach. I hate that we haven't heard any "new" news. If LE is still talking to Raven, perhaps they've refocused on him, based on circumstantial evidence?
Yeah :clap: We look forward to the pictures and report of any information NC!
 
misterallgood said:
12:28 a.m. EDT, June 1, 2005 --

IP 151.198.232.10
Country
United States
Region New Jersey
City
Secaucus
ISP
Current Affair

Go figure.

Mr. A.
Can you tell what they were looking at? Was it Janet's story or something else?

By the way, :woohoo: :clap: :clap:
 
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