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Nel: #OscarPistorius got up, put on his prosthesis and walked 7 meters to fire gun. @eNCAnews
 
Dramatic detail coming out in court about #OscarPistorius shooting - he put on prosthesis, walked seven meters, shot through bathroom door. @ewnreporter

#OscarPistorius Prosecutor Gerrie Nel arguing that it would have been premeditated murder even if OP thought it was unarmed burglar. @ewnreporter

#OscarPistorius Nel says victim arrived at the house between 17:00 and 18:00 the night before. Overnight bag was found at the house. @ewnreporter
 
Karyn Maughan‏@karynmaughan

At this stage, no mention from Nel of a cricket bat being used to attack Reeva Steenkamp. #OscarPistorius @eNCAnews
 
#OscarPistorius Defence is now making its case saying the accused has no previous convictions. @ewnreporter

#OscarPistorius Roux now dealing with the defense, using case law to argue the question of premeditation. BB @ewnreporter

#OscarPistorius Roux I thought the state would introduce this conflict between the accused and deceased... BB @ewnreporter

#OscarPistorius Roux we submit this is not even murder, because the accused wants to take the court in confidence. BB @ewnreporter

#OscarPistorius Roux the accused will go into detail what happened that night. BB @ewnreporter

#OscarPistorius Roux on the state's version, every time someone picks up a firearm it is planned - that's not premeditated. BB @ewnreporter
 
Karyn Maughan‏@karynmaughan

Roux: this is not even murder. #OscarPistorius @eNCA
:what:
 
I don't understand this tweet
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Roux what would indicate to you this is premeditated, not an intentional act? BB
isn't that saying two opposite things
 
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Roux does the state say he broke down the door, saw it was Reeva and then killed her? No. BB
 
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Roux will show this is not even a murder, but in the interests of justice let's not start this off as schedule 6. BB

1 min Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Roux the state says there was an argument before the shooting - rather show that there were serious problems in relationship
 
from Guardian
less than 1m ago
Roux says it is "the cold and unfortunate facts" that Pistorius shot Steenkamp through the door. "Does he says the reasonable inference is that he knew it was Reeva behind that door? If that's the state's case please tell us."

Roux says there are "so many" murders in security complexes, places that given you "a false sense of security".

Roux: "His case is she was shot through the bathroom door. Why would you then break open the door?"

Roux suggests that Pistorius broke down the door to get to Reeva, to help her, not harm her.

Roux says every day people take refuge in toilets when they break into houses.
 
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Roux all we have is that she locked herself in bathroom, she was shot through the door. Oscar breaks down again. BB

3 mins Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Roux we have nothing remotely indicative of premeditation... BB
 
Pistorius breaks down uncontrollably when Roux suggests he did not know it was Steenkamp behind the door, Crawford reports.

There's no reason to think the broken door suggests guilt, Roux says. Pistorius shot first, then broke it to discover his mistake, Roux says.

Roux: "All we know is that she locked the bathroom door and he shot, thinking she was a burglar."

This was never, ever a premeditated murder, he says.

What is there in the state's case to say he didn't mistake her for a burglar, Roux asks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/19/oscar-pistorius-bail-hearing-live-coverage
 
Guardian:
Nel says the toilet was a small 1.4mx1.4m room. When those shots were fired "it must have been horrific". She couldn't get away.

This can only mean that the loo was not the toilet attached to the main bedroom as initially thought but a small guest toilet or something away from the main bedroom where Oscar was!!
 
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius is squinting at Nel, appears repulsed by what he is hearing. B
 
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