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JerseyGirl said:
OMG, I don't think I've ever been so sad. :( :( :(

I know, it's a horrible story. They intended to kill that girl and yet she managed to survive 20 stab wounds ... she's paralized now and during all that all she was worried about was her little sister.
:( :( :(
 
golfmom said:
I know, it's a horrible story. They intended to kill that girl and yet she managed to survive 20 stab wounds ... she's paralized now and during all that all she was worried about was her little sister.
:( :( :(
Her little sister kicked, screamed, and bit. She was only 3. Just a tad older than my own baby. I'm literally crying. I wish I'd never heard about that story.

But you're right ... if TWO people, (apparently neither one tried to talk sense into the other one), could do this to two children, ages 10 and 3, over $200, anything is possible. Thank God Kaiden wasn't hurt!

The story of the two girls is too painful. It's going to haunt me. And to read that the 10 year-old was more concerned about her baby sister (who died in the attack) than she was about her own 20 stab wounds just shatters my heart. I just can't stand it. I really, really can't. :(
 
After reading the article, I emailed the reporter (a female, though I can't remember her name, Erica?). I thanked her for the coverage and prompted her to review this website, as that video had posted here for quite some time. Don't know if it'll do any good, but I at least wanted her to know that WE KNOW they didn't UNCOVER it.

golfmom said:
Just a rant, please keep in mind I'm thrilled at any media coverage we can get on this case. But, the news broadcast link from yesterday kind of sets my teeth on edge.

"Durham police are not saying much about the brutal murder of Janet Abaroa, but Eyewitness News has uncovered a new glimpse into the woman's family life."

Eyewitness News didn't uncover anything. Misterallgood did. You would think that they would give him a nod. I know that if they uncovered it and Misterallgood wrote a piece about the video he would certainly credit them as the original source.

It's probably another one of those reporters treating bloggers disrespectfully, but it just stinks.
 
golfmom said:
I know, it's a horrible story. They intended to kill that girl and yet she managed to survive 20 stab wounds ... she's paralized now and during all that all she was worried about was her little sister.
:( :( :(
What's even worse IMO is that the judge just decided to give the mom (who left her children alone in a trailer while she was gambling in the casino) custody of Brittney.

True, I don't know the whole case and hopefully that mother has made some big changes in her priorities.
 
golfmom said:
Just a rant, please keep in mind I'm thrilled at any media coverage we can get on this case. But, the news broadcast link from yesterday kind of sets my teeth on edge.

"Durham police are not saying much about the brutal murder of Janet Abaroa, but Eyewitness News has uncovered a new glimpse into the woman's family life."

Eyewitness News didn't uncover anything. Misterallgood did. You would think that they would give him a nod. I know that if they uncovered it and Misterallgood wrote a piece about the video he would certainly credit them as the original source.

It's probably another one of those reporters treating bloggers disrespectfully, but it just stinks.
It does stink. They shouldn't take credit when they didn't actually have to do anything.
 
I need help with some super sleuthing!

Here's the lead. I was on www.dogpile.com and was searching out any additional comments that Raven might have made regarding his wife.

So my search parameters were ....... NC_VX Wife .......

and up pops ....

http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/web/NC_VX+wife

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Anyone willing to slug through this area to see if Mr. P. Ness is listed?

Maybe it's a default thing but when I search ...
FuTBaLrGuY wife
pocketpcguy wife
The same results pop up
 
JerseyGirl said:
I totally agree!!! They probably "found" the video when some intern stumbled onto Misterallgood's blog.
You guys rock. :blushing:

I've scooped the mainstream media on several occasions, only to find something I'd blogged basically re-written (no outright plagiarism yet, thank God,) in an article on a website a few days later as if it were breaking news.

The "mainstream media" is kinda divided where we bloggers are concerned. Some of them detest us and think of all of us -- even the really popular ones who get 10 times the hits I do daily -- as just a bunch of guys and gals in our pajamas blathering into the ether. Others see it as the new wave and jump on, but look bad doing it because blogging is, by it's very nature, grassroots, not corporate -- done by independent schmoes on their own dime.

By the way, because of the subjects I write about, I find you all collectively to be an invaluable resource, and highly recommend that if some of you ever see fit to do a little bloggin' your own self (listening, golfmom?) that you do so. If you ever want any ideas, pointers or suggestions on starting one, let me know.

Sorry for the OT -- I just wanted to express my thanks for the implicit support in your words.

Mr. A.
 
golfmom said:
I need help with some super sleuthing!

Here's the lead. I was on www.dogpile.com and was searching out any additional comments that Raven might have made regarding his wife.

So my search parameters were ....... NC_VX Wife .......

and up pops ....

http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/web/NC_VX%2Bwife

4. Hot Casual Sex
Men & Women In Your Area. Find The Match You Are Looking For Now.
Sponsored by: www.myhotmatchups.com/ [Found on Web Search Picks]
5. Married Dating
Discreet Dating for Married People Free Sign Up! - Join Now
Sponsored by: MarriedSecrets.com/ [Found on Web Search Picks]

Anyone willing to slug through this area to see if Mr. P. Ness is listed?

Maybe it's a default thing but when I search ...
FuTBaLrGuY wife
pocketpcguy wife
The same results pop up
THIS HAS GOT TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON.

But might I suggest someone single do it? It's pretty easy to make "dummy" accounts, especially if you're a woman -- you'll likely be able to do it free.

Unfortunately, I'm sure my wife would draw the line on my researching here. She was annoyed enough when I got a dummy myspace account to do some sleuthing.

Mr. A.
 
misterallgood said:
THIS HAS GOT TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON.

But might I suggest someone single do it? It's pretty easy to make "dummy" accounts, especially if you're a woman -- you'll likely be able to do it free.

Unfortunately, I'm sure my wife would draw the line on my researching here. She was annoyed enough when I got a dummy myspace account to do some sleuthing.

Mr. A.

That's why I threw it open for others to research. My husband would not be uhhhhhhh ... understanding .... if he caught me in at those sites. Besides, it goes against my own personal code as a married woman to be there.
 
misterallgood said:
(listening, golfmom?)

.

nag, nag, nag, all you ever do is nag!

LOL, seriously MrAG, I a may take you up on your kind offer when I have some spare time on my hands ... ohhhhh ... you know, after a certain arrest is made.

:blowkiss:
 
golfmom said:
That's why I through it open for others to research. My husband would not be uhhhhhhh ... understanding .... if he caught me in at those sites. Besides, it goes against my own personal code as a married woman to be there.
GM - I think, as you referenced earlier, that it's some sort of default search result that comes up with any number of searches. I've noticed the same, um, phenomenom on other search engines...random, silly results coming up that have NOTHING to do with my query at all... Just a thought..
 
SouthEastSleuth said:
GM - I think, as you referenced earlier, that it's some sort of default search result that comes up with any number of searches. I've noticed the same, um, phenomenom on other search engines...random, silly results coming up that have NOTHING to do with my query at all... Just a thought..

Thanks SES, I just feel like we are missing something though, and the internet single guy sure fits the bill.
 
misterallgood said:
Sorry for the OT -- I just wanted to express my thanks for the implicit support in your words.
Mr. A, you are quite welcome. You are the sole reason we all learned about Janet in the first place.

I don't know why I'm so shocked by this station's claim but I am. LE has released nothing, the media has not prodded them to do so, and as soon as credit is to be had, they are there to collect it undeservedly. Frankly, it's infuriating! If they had truly been digging, we wouldn't all need to be here trying to find justice for Janet!
 
golfmom said:
So, what did she tell her friends from work that made them so worried for her safety?
:laugh: Raven's home.
 
golfmom said:
Just a rant, please keep in mind I'm thrilled at any media coverage we can get on this case. But, the news broadcast link from yesterday kind of sets my teeth on edge.

"Durham police are not saying much about the brutal murder of Janet Abaroa, but Eyewitness News has uncovered a new glimpse into the woman's family life."

Eyewitness News didn't uncover anything. Misterallgood did. You would think that they would give him a nod. I know that if they uncovered it and Misterallgood wrote a piece about the video he would certainly credit them as the original source.

It's probably another one of those reporters treating bloggers disrespectfully, but it just stinks.
I also believe credit should be given to the proper person.

However, I was glad to see that they did say something about the story and even showed what came up when you searched Janet Abaroa on the net....hopefully leading people to Allgood's blog and this site. It would be interesting to see if anybody new signs up and says they saw it on the news report! No offense Mr. Allgood because you should have been given the credit for the find, but I am still sooooo glad that Janet's name made the news again.....and hopefully it will spark something!!!!!
 
hummingbird said:
I didn't see the behavior I expected to see, based on my personal past experiences with those who have lost a close family member. I know people grieve differently, but there was quite a different feeling from what I expected to see from a young husband and father who had just lost his wife and the mother of his child.

At the funeral there were moments when he was seen sitting with his head in his hands, sobbing profusely. Alternately, there were periods when we was visiting with family and friends quite calmly. This includes the time in the building before, during and after the services. His behavior contrasted with that of Janet's parents and siblings, who carried more of a constant demeanor of controlled grief.
Thank you hummingbird for the information. Was his behavior any different at the family get together the next day?
 
newkid said:
Thanks, I missed that. VERY tacky to put that on the funeral program. I hope it's intended to help with funeral expenses since it was on the program, though that's unlikely considering the location of the credit union.
Verbatim from the back of the funeral program:

A Memorial Fund has been established​
for Janet Abaroa.​
Donations can be mailed to:​
I.B.E.W. Federal Credit Union​
3405 West 1987 South​
Salt Lake City, UT 84104​
and​
Southern Virginia University​
has established the​
Janet Christiansen Abaroa Pioneer Scholarship.​
Donations can be made through the​
SVU Development Office​
Contact Jamie Stanfield​
540-261-2782​
 
Hummingbird said:
Verbatim from the back of the funeral program:

A Memorial Fund has been established​
for Janet Abaroa.​
Donations can be mailed to:​
I.B.E.W. Federal Credit Union​
3405 West 1987 South​
Salt Lake City, UT 84104​
and​
Southern Virginia University​
has established the​
Janet Christiansen Abaroa Pioneer Scholarship.​
Donations can be made through the​
SVU Development Office​
Contact Jamie Stanfield​
540-261-2782​

Very strange. Usually you see a trust fund for the child, but not a memorial fund for the deceased. Although I suppose it could be money being earmarked for a permanent memorial. I know of something similar in my town where a young girl was killed in a wreck, friends of hers established a memorial fund and there is now a small park with benches and trees in her name as a lasting memorial. It doesn't really specify that's the case though, so hard to tell.

The scholarship one is obviously appropriate and common.
 
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