General theory thread and motives rehashed #6

[Flossie JMO]

Iirc, that youtube was proven to be fake back in 2010. JMO

 

[Flossie JMO]

another thing about Tommy...It doesn't matter if his wife dropped the domestic violence charges. That happens all the time. Cops here begged my daughter to press charges against her bf and she flat out refused. Some women put up with a lot of violence, in the name of love. What I see with Tommy, (and if anybody knows differently, please fill me in), is he is violent with his family and extended family. There were the dropped charges, the fight with his dad, where his own little son was scared of him, the fight with RC, where Misty said he put his hands on her for no reason...and she was granted a restraining order...and those things aren't easy to get. It takes more than a he said she said. CC admitted after his fight with his own father, that he had a terrible temper. Yeah, she's full of it, but why would she lie about this? If anything, I got the impression that she was downplaying it. I'm not surprised that a wife would drop charges, but what I really see here, is something happened that was bad enough to involve the law, and press charges. MOO, but I see a pattern with Tommy, and when you add drugs to the mix, you've got a catastrophe waiting to happen. And it was Tommy, himself, who admitted to being so high that night, that he passed in and out of consciousness, and it was Tommy who claimed Haleigh was taken because of a rage. MOO.

Great post, imo. I can't recall, was the battery against Lindsy too? don't have my notes in front of me

 

[Flossie JMO]

IMO, Misty shows classic signs of a sexually abused female. IMO, if the guy in Daytona wasn't guilty, he has had ample opportunity to clear his name. Misty getting caught up in Haleigh's case, would have given him the perfect ammunition, to prove she was a liar and her parents were con artists. I remember seeing an interview, (Art Harris, I think), where her mother talked about not knowing about JO messing with Misty, until she passed that part of the lie detector test. And as far as Tommy goes, I believe her. I don't believe his lack of prior record, means squat...except that LE had no reason before Haleigh came up missing, to zero in on him. You'd be surprised at how many people commit daily crimes, under the radar. Misty moving in with an older man, is also a classic sign of a molest victim. But, even though I believe most of Misty's molestation claims, I'm not sure they have a thing to do with this case, except to show the kind of people Haleigh was surrounded by, and the circumstances that led up to her disappearance. I think Misty learned at an early age, that being the victim, got her attention, and was a handy excuse, to blame her problems on. In other words, I think she learned to use it and manipulate it. I have known other victims who have done this very thing. They get on drugs, quit school, are promiscuous, commit crimes...and blame it all on their childhoods. And they're right. It's the reason they are who they are. Some Kids who are molested, develop a lot of negative traits, and thery're not very likeable or sympathetic. Something like Haleigh's case wouldn't happen to a normal person, and Misty, is exactly the kind of person, who would get mixed up in something like this. About Tommy...I don't understand how people can see his spiraling down, as a sign of innocence in Haleigh's murder. I see the exact opposite. IMO, this guy hasn't been tricked by his little sister. I also don't see this brotherly loyalty, a lot of people see. What about loyalty to his own kids? I can't stand, his actions being twisted into something noble, motivated by love and protection. The only person Tommy is motivated to protect, IMO, is Tommy. All of this is MOO ,

bbm, this is how I see it as well. JMO

 

[Chablis]

BBM

Levi, I almost forgot about the above, thank you. I, for one, really do believe RC ratted out anyone he knew used, grew and sold drugs. :seeya:

He had been doing this consistently for years, the LE didn't even lock up the people he dragged the UC to to buy drugs, to my knowledge. jmo

 

[Chablis]

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BBM - Do you have a link?

Its common knowledge Katrina drove with Ron while Misty was in the UC's car. In tapes released after, Misty was begging one of her kin to get her purse from Katrina, because Katrina took it after they got Ron and Misty in cuffs, its been talked about lots of times, as for direct links, I would just google it, or maybe someone here can link us to the audio from jail.

jmo

 

[GER]

Its common knowledge Katrina drove with Ron while Misty was in the UC's car. In tapes released after, Misty was begging one of her kin to get her purse from Katrina, because Katrina took it after they got Ron and Misty in cuffs, its been talked about lots of times, as for direct links, I would just google it, or maybe someone here can link us to the audio from jail.

jmo

Yes, MC was begging her family to get her phone from RC's Aunt Tina... she thought her purse was left in Aunt Tina's car. BUT in the video, of the drug bust we clearly saw MC's purse in her possession. There was other talk about Aunt Tina and her driving off and supposedly at one point from what I recall, LC telling MC that Aunt Tina said she didn't have MC's purse. The entire deal with the purse/phone was that MC had just put minutes on it and wanted her family to get it so they could use the minutes/phone to keep in contact with MC while she was in jail... remember they didn't even have a place to live and having a hard time of it at that time...

 

[GER]

Iirc, that youtube was proven to be fake back in 2010. JMO

Could you possibly, please, pretty please help me out with this... provide a link or point me in a direction? I've been looking and following these chain of 'events' this morning and I can't make up my mind. Frustrated here...*sigh*

 

[GER]

Alright... so this YouTube poster, posting as LindsyLPN... she updated her profile information on that page, this morning, as well as making several comments under other videos. First line of her updated profile says; "I'm a loving mother of two..." Problem I have at this moment is that the 'real' Lindsy is a mother of THREE. Typo? Would a mom make that kind of mistake? *shrug*

http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN

 

[B4igo2it]

It is an imposter making these comments on the YouTube videos! I suspect it is that guy that was stalking Lyndsy when she first put up her website. (danthehempsmog) He is very, very Sick!
One of his posts to a youtube video (claiming to be Linds) he refers to Tommy as Timmy - that was his mistake!
He is commenting on each of the videos having to do with HaLeigh.

 

[B4igo2it]

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Its common knowledge Katrina ... jmo

See Post #665 ........... it was not common knowledge to me. In fact, when MC spoke of a "Tina" I thought she was Hope's step-cousin "C.B." She is closer to the girls in age and it didn't even enter into my thinking that she was referring to Katrina. I am shocked that Hope's mother would be a part of the drug dealing fiasco. This is the first I learned that Hope's mom was also called "Tina" - After reading your post, I re-read obituary comments and not a single person referred to Katrina as "Tina" - I then found the comments by MC in the video I posted in #665 and now I know ...

 

[Flossie JMO]

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See Post #665 ........... it was not common knowledge to me. In fact, when MC spoke of a "Tina" I thought she was Hope's step-cousin "C.B." She is closer to the girls in age and it didn't even enter into my thinking that she was referring to Katrina. I am shocked that Hope's mother would be a part of the drug dealing fiasco. This is the first I learned that Hope's mom was also called "Tina" - After reading your post, I re-read obituary comments and not a single person referred to Katrina as "Tina" - I then found the comments by MC in the video I posted in #665 and now I know ...

bbm Well I believe nobody knows what Hope's mother would have been aware of, we can speculate all we want really. May she rest in peace.

 

[Chablis]

We know Hope mother drove Ron and listened while he directed Misty to make a drug exchange, we know she drove away, we know an hour later the cops went and got her daughter and offered her a "deal" which she turned down, and we know Katrina died. Why was Katrina never charged for that drug deal, she knew what time it was ( my suspicion was she cut a deal) , her ex died of a drug overdose. Personally, I think she literally sold her soul and did the best she could do to cope with what she knew, whatever it was, but it was something, and it killed her. jmo

 

[titanfan62702]

bbm Well I believe nobody knows what Hope's mother would have been aware of, we can speculate all we want really. May she rest in peace.

Most of realize that she knew when to leave to avoid being arrested with Ron and Misty.

 

[mkay882]

Some of us think, if this was Hope's mother, a simple ride to meet Ron was all she was aware of.
Just because she used drugs doesn't translate she knew what Hope was 'up to' every minute of every day.
MOO though

 

[GER]

Some of us think, if this was Hope's mother, a simple ride to meet Ron was all she was aware of.
Just because she used drugs doesn't translate she knew what Hope was 'up to' every minute of every day.
MOO though

BBM

Okay, wait a minute. I agree that as parents we often don't know or aren't aware of the scope/degree that our ADULT children are up to... even our teens are often times smart enough to evade parents' inquiring minds...

Of course there are rumors...plenty of rumors and that which I know as fact, but without proof am unwilling to share. That's just the way it is.

But I have to ask, as this piqued my curiosity...I'm NOT arguing with you, just where, how and with such stated certainty that you posted this as fact, that which I bolded....?

 

[GER]

Most of realize that she knew when to leave to avoid being arrested with Ron and Misty.

During an inquiry of mine the other day... this came to light during the discussion and something that I'd not even given consideration before and thought it warrants a second step back and thought.... Could it be that 'she' was indeed working with LE? Mmmmm? I don't know, but thought it could be a possibility.

 

[Emeralgem]

During an inquiry of mine the other day... this came to light during the discussion and something that I'd not even given consideration before and thought it warrants a second step back and thought.... Could it be that 'she' was indeed working with LE? Mmmmm? I don't know, but thought it could be a possibility.

Seems none of these people from some of the things I've heard have ever let the truth stand in the way of a good lie.. But who knows? Could be...Could be that is WHY she is NOW deceased too..JMHO

 

[Chablis]

Some of us think, if this was Hope's mother, a simple ride to meet Ron was all she was aware of.
Just because she used drugs doesn't translate she knew what Hope was 'up to' every minute of every day.
MOO though

Except she drove Ron to the drug deal and he was instructing Misty on the phone how to exchange drugs, or did Katrina suffer from being deaf and couldnt hear Ron? I am pretty sure she talked to Hope on the phone so I dont think its that....

 

[Chablis]

I just cant shake the Katrina angle for a few reasons. I know she was troubled and suffered from being an addict (her husband died of an overdose) she had a tumultuous relations with Annette (she pressed charges on her before), she may have not raised Hope, as Hope is a Sykes, so there is a story with that, and if thats true, Hope was raised with Ron, because as we know, Teresa did not parent her kids till Kirby Sykes became ill and Annette had to devote that time to her dying husband, so Hope and Ron being raised together shows loyalty to Ronald, as she had to consider him like a brother, or more ( please listen to the audio of Hope telling her encounter with Ron to Katrina). We always think, oh Chelsea knew, Teresa knew, everyone knew, but I always think in the back of my mind, how as a mother, could these people know and live with themselves and carry on? What if your daughter did something for Ron (your nephew) that involved a dead Haleigh, (your great neice), and you knew after the fact, or were privy to watching your drug addicted nephew (who she could have been dependent on for whatever) lose control and accidentally kill her? Katrina not being charged with being at the drug deal is one of two things, imo, one, they didn't want her and knew she had nothing to do with Haleigh, or two, she cut a deal to tell all she knew on her own child and nephew and what she saw/heard that night. I don't know which one it was, but why would Katrina have to drive Ron, he had a truck, why was she involved in any way? Why couldnt Misty go on her own with the UC as she had previously. Did the cops set it up to have Katrina bring them there? Maybe its as simple as she wanted to buy some of those pills...

jmo

 

[Lanie]

I guess anything's possible, but I have a hard time believing all this sexual abuse allegedly heaped on poor little Misty. Just the sheer volume of alleged abusers in her various tales makes this sort of insinuation hard for me to see as having credibility.

Let's take a look at what we've been told.

-We know there is some kid in Daytona doing hard time in prison because HE is supposed to have sexually abused poor Miss Croslin.

-We know she accused her cousin, Joe Overstreet, of incest/sexual abuse.

BUT

-We also know she was a 16 year old girl/child who fell right into willingly living with and sleeping with a 22 year old man.

-We know there were people who came out of the woodwork to tell of her sexual exploits ranging from 3 somes reported to Tim Miller of TES to stories of her taking on multiple partners at the same time reported to Cobra.

-At one point there were even rumors of her banging Ronald's UNCLE!

That's already a lot of miles on a short track, and now, we're supposed to add her brother to this long list of evil people taking advantage of poor little Misty?

Is it reasonable for us to believe this incest claim realizing that, prior to February 9, 2009, the ONLY crime Tommy Croslin had ever been accused of was a domestic violence charge that was later DROPPED BY HIS WIFE? There were no drug charges. There was no walking around the neighborhood at night or petty burgulary charges. All of this happened AFTER Haleigh disappeared.

I can't buy it. I see Misty Croslin as a girl/child who thought her chit didn't stink and learned early in life how to use what she had to get what she wanted.

MOO

This was siblings of the opposite sex growing up with little to no parental supervision or guidance. I would be surprised if there weren't incest going on at some point.

MOO

When children grow up in an enviroment of neglect, even with or without incest being involved, they are at a higher risk of being sexually abused. IMO, these children grow up starved for affection, with no compass of right and wrong, and exposed to the lowlifes. IMO, Misty's story, unfortunately, is not unique.

So, yes, I believe the incest, but I don't believe that equates pedophile, especially if (as I believe) this all started when both Misty and Tommy were children.