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Regarding Myspace and/or Facebook posts. I know for a fact you can use AOL IM through your phone, and if Casey had internet service on her phone she surely could have posted to any of her internet accounts thereby negating the need to physically be at a computer or at the house to post to those sites. So any facebook/myspace postings do not necessarily pinpoint her location. I'm not sure how this is represented on the phone record, however, so take it for what it's worth, I guess :)
 
Jelly Doughnut said:
Regarding Myspace and/or Facebook posts. I know for a fact you can use AOL IM through your phone, and if Casey had internet service on her phone she surely could have posted to any of her internet accounts thereby negating the need to physically be at a computer or at the house to post to those sites. So any facebook/myspace postings do not necessarily pinpoint her location. I'm not sure how this is represented on the phone record, however, so take it for what it's worth, I guess :)
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Hi, JD. I agree 100%.

Postings - in and of themselves - don't tie her to a specific location. However, when they are bookended on either side by cell pings (which provide us w/ a long/lat) within a close timeframe...then you've got a reasonable means to draw a conclusion.

I would expect an AIM to appear as a 'text' string, and I do believe I see some of those in Casey's earlier records in the beginning of June. My thought was that she was communicating w/ Tony via AIM while he was in class during the day. That's just speculation on my part. She dropped this method of communication for the most part by early-mid part of the month, IIRC.

Its not perfect...but 'bout as good as we have to go on in some cases.
 
shadow of my mind said:
FYI

June 8 Ricardo M. has Sundays off [232 N Glenwood Ave Orlando, FL 32803] the whole
Page 1289 Lines 3-6 Ricardo M. Interview with LE on 7/25/2008
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/rm092308.pdf

Ricardo works from 11:00AM –8:00PM
Page 1299 Lines 6-7 Ricardo M. Interview with LE on 7/25/2008
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/rm092308.pdf
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Thanks, Shadow. :blowkiss:

I added a few more points to the original post w/ this help. :thumb:

Also, FWIW, IIRC, in Dante's thread he told us that Ricardo did something akin to internet sales.
At that time I researched the websites for both DRF & Lexus to see who did their work, as I thought perhaps it might be subcontracted to the same firm for which Ricardo may have worked. What I found was that DRF & Lexus use two different contractors to provide their web services. I don't have their names anymore, but, there were two different firms. So, I don't know exactly what Ricardo does, but, IIRC, it was Dante that gave us some insight.
 
I pulled the following from RM's July 25 interview (transcribed by ACandyRose :blowkiss:):

DR: Okay. But in, in, from the 14th through the 27th, how many times do you think you've heard from her.
Rm: I would say maybe twice. I mean...
DR: And those would be through?
RM: One of the was definitely a phone call. I don't know exactly what day it was uhm, (unintelligible).
DR: And that's the one where you got it at work?
RM: Yeah (affirmative), where she initially called me on my cell phone and had her call me back at work.
DR: Okay.
RM: I don't know what day it was. Uhm, so I'll, I'll (unintelligible) and find that out.
DR: Yeah (affirmative), That was a two week span there. Okay. Yeah (affirmative).
RM: And then I'm pretty sure I'd gotten a text message here, you know, somewhere in there which was just like how, how's, how are things going and stuff like that.
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So RM remembers an instance after she "fell off the face of the earth" when KC called him on his cell, and he had her call him at his work number.

Looking at the cell pings in that date range, I see one call to RM's cell immediately followed by a call from DRF:

6/17/08 TUE 2:29:19 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Ricardo M. 73
6/17/08 TUE 2:30:59 PM INCOMING CALL DRF Dlrshp Casey A. 460

The above occurs about 18 minutes after her call to the Lexus Dealership en-route to her parent's. IMHO, this is the incident RM recalls, although he called her from DRF rather than the other way around, which I think is an honest mistake. Nothing I can find in the transcript says what they discussed for those nearly 8 minutes.

So, for better or for worse, I think we can cross RM off the list as being the Lexus contact. :doh:

As a side note, these calls are done while KC is at her parent's home with the car backed into the garage.

Business as usual for KC...:steamed:
 
JWG said:
I pulled the following from RM's July 25 interview (transcribed by ACandyRose :blowkiss:):



So RM remembers an instance after she "fell off the face of the earth" when KC called him on his cell, and he had her call him at his work number.

Looking at the cell pings in that date range, I see one call to RM's cell immediately followed by a call from DRF:

6/17/08 TUE 2:29:19 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Ricardo M. 73
6/17/08 TUE 2:30:59 PM INCOMING CALL DRF Dlrshp Casey A. 460

The above occurs about 18 minutes after her call to the Lexus Dealership en-route to her parent's. IMHO, this is the incident RM recalls, although he called her from DRF rather than the other way around, which I think is an honest mistake. Nothing I can find in the transcript says what they discussed for those nearly 8 minutes.

So, for better or for worse, I think we can cross RM off the list as being the Lexus contact. :doh:

As a side note, these calls are done while KC is at her parent's home with the car backed into the garage.

Business as usual for KC...:steamed:
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Thanks for the feedback, JWG.

Maybe he alternates back 'n forth 'tween the two places, cause just prior to what you quoted she called Lexus...

6/17/08 TUE 2:12:56 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Lexus Dlrshp
6/17/08 TUE 2:18:12 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Amy H.
6/17/08 TUE 2:29:19 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Ricardo M.
6/17/08 TUE 2:30:59 PM INCOMING CALL DRF Dlrshp Casey A.

Called Lexus..."Where's Ricardo" A: Not here
Called Amy..."Where's Ricardo" A: He's @ DRF today
Called Ricardo...C: "blah, blah, blah" R: "Hey, call me on my work#"
Called DRF ..C: "blah, blah, blah" R: "That's better. At least I won't get in trouble".....

....or maybe...at least that way it won't be obvious who you are calling :waitasec:
 
JWG said:
I pulled the following from RM's July 25 interview (transcribed by ACandyRose :blowkiss:):



So RM remembers an instance after she "fell off the face of the earth" when KC called him on his cell, and he had her call him at his work number.

Looking at the cell pings in that date range, I see one call to RM's cell immediately followed by a call from DRF:

6/17/08 TUE 2:29:19 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Ricardo M. 73
6/17/08 TUE 2:30:59 PM INCOMING CALL DRF Dlrshp Casey A. 460

The above occurs about 18 minutes after her call to the Lexus Dealership en-route to her parent's. IMHO, this is the incident RM recalls, although he called her from DRF rather than the other way around, which I think is an honest mistake. Nothing I can find in the transcript says what they discussed for those nearly 8 minutes.

So, for better or for worse, I think we can cross RM off the list as being the Lexus contact. :doh:

As a side note, these calls are done while KC is at her parent's home with the car backed into the garage.

Business as usual for KC...:steamed:
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This is Casey's call to Lexus.

6/17/08 TUE 2:12:56 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Lexus Dlrshp 2.5

Then Casey's call to Ricardo and his call back to her.
6/17/08 TUE 2:29:19 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Ricardo M. 73
6/17/08 TUE 2:30:59 PM INCOMING CALL DRF Dlrshp Casey A. 460

Lexus
305 North Semoran Boulevard
Winter Park, FL 32792

DRF
1875 South Orlando Avenue
Orlando, FL 32751

5.7 miles approx 13 minuets as per google.

Could Ricardo have been traveling between dealerships. Would be very close with traffic at that time of day, plus time to park, get inside and sat down at a desk to take a phone call.
 
BondJamesBond said:
Thanks for the feedback, JWG.

Maybe he alternates back 'n forth 'tween the two places, cause just prior to what you quoted she called Lexus...

6/17/08 TUE 2:12:56 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Lexus Dlrshp
6/17/08 TUE 2:18:12 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Amy H.
6/17/08 TUE 2:29:19 PM OUTGOING CALL Casey A. Ricardo M.
6/17/08 TUE 2:30:59 PM INCOMING CALL DRF Dlrshp Casey A.

Called Lexus..."Where's Ricardo" A: Not here
Called Amy..."Where's Ricardo" A: He's @ DRF today
Called Ricardo...C: "blah, blah, blah" R: "Hey, call me on my work#"
Called DRF ..C: "blah, blah, blah" R: "That's better. At least I won't get in trouble".....

....or maybe...at least that way it won't be obvious who you are calling :waitasec:
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I suppose it is possible. But, I do note the call was 2 1/2 minutes long, which is not altogether short...
 
JWG said:
I suppose it is possible. But, I do note the call was 2 1/2 minutes long, which is not altogether short...
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Taken another 2 1/2 minuets off available drive time does not make it not very probable.
I guess I will have to follow the route via street view and see how many lights one would encounter a long the way.
Although it would not account for her getting put on hold for a few minuets to find to be told he had already left and she just delayed calling him for a reasonable 15 time frame. Somehow I don't see Casey waiting to call someone. Since she called on his cell you would have thought that if she was attempting to reach him and had been told he had already left Lexus she would have hung up with the connection to Lexus and immediately call Ricardo cell number and not waited for 15 minuets.

I think you are correct. Lexus does not equal Ricardo.

Shadow
 
FWIW...if for nothing other than comedic value...I happen to know someone that called Lexus the other day. Called the switchboard. They easily spent 30-60 seconds after talking to the switchboard operator waiting w/ muzak before the next party was connected.

I'm not suggesting Ricardo was driving between the two locations that day per se. More that he may have been working the two locations back and forth...say once/month @ Lexus for example....and Casey couldn't/didn't keep track of which week of the month it was.
 
BondJamesBond said:
FWIW...if for nothing other than comedic value...I happen to know someone that called Lexus the other day. Called the switchboard. They easily spent 30-60 seconds after talking to the switchboard operator waiting w/ muzak before the next party was connected.

I'm not suggesting Ricardo was driving between the two locations that day per se. More that he may have been working the two locations back and forth...say once/month @ Lexus for example....and Casey couldn't/didn't keep track of which week of the month it was.
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Yeah, I figured he would not be working two places in one day. I will note that the day we are looking at is a Tuesday, and the previous day (Monday) there was a call to Lexus that was not "corrected" to DRF as it was Tuesday, nor is it "corrected" the next day when she calls Lexus. It seems odd he'd work at DRF this one day and not the others.

The only call to/from DRF during these two weeks is the one on this Tuesday.
 
BondJamesBond said:
FWIW...if for nothing other than comedic value...I happen to know someone that called Lexus the other day. Called the switchboard. They easily spent 30-60 seconds after talking to the switchboard operator waiting w/ muzak before the next party was connected.

I'm not suggesting Ricardo was driving between the two locations that day per se. More that he may have been working the two locations back and forth...say once/month @ Lexus for example....and Casey couldn't/didn't keep track of which week of the month it was.
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I would agree that driving between the two would be out due to time, traffic etc. And you are right he could have just not been there that day and Casey could not keep track. I guess I would have to ask the same question though. ...

Plus he works from 11:00AM-8:00PM so him changing work locations if he was splitting his time it should be ‘switching’ closer to between 3:00PM-4:00PM as his break time and starting at the other location by 4:00PM [4 hours one place, 1 hour break, 4 hours the other]

If Casey called Lexus, found out Ricardo was not there because she didn't get the right day why call Amy? Wouldn’t she then know that he would be at DRF if he were not at Lexus?

I do see what your saying….after talking to Amy for about 3 minuets it is only about 8 minuets to she does Call Ricardo so it doesn’t absolutely rule him out. .

I did find this with no source for the information listed.
August 2007 Ricardo Morales moved from Jacksonville FL to Orlando for employment reasons. http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2008/08/casey-anthony-timeline-tentative.html

Still doesent tell us anything helpful.
Why is this Lexus person so dang hard to ID? Your basic rhetorical question. Ok going to shut up about this now.
 
Thanks, Shadow/JWG.

What I'm saying is...as I shuffle the deck again, if I had to prioritize the list of characters we know in the case, incl. George, methinks Ricardo is the best fit for Lexus...barring new info.

Just not enough info to definitively lock it in. I didn't like the unusual call times to Lexus to fit George's work schedule, esp. 6/24.

I hear what your sayin'...it's not a slam dunk.....

...yet.
 
I think the best fit is Cindy, though dont know why that number. Maybe she had a friend there, or a client. Or she knew someone there that would see if Cindy was at work, its on the same street.

It accounts for finding out about the cans from Cindy on the 24. Also imo the calls seem to be cindy/lexus till she gets through to one or the other. Once she gets through to one there are no more calls to the other.
The reason for the end of lexus calls could be Cindy was on vacation first week of July. After that I believe her and Cindy were basically on a text only comunication.
 
Sorry to just pop in here but couldn't help but notice. Maybe Ric called her back from work if he has limited cell minutes? Common among the younger kids who, unlike KC actually PAY their own bill !! They have to watch their minutes or end up with a huge bill..landline would only cost KC minutes...
 
One thing I will say about Casey, as she certainly went from boyfriend to boyfriend. I have seen Jesse G. interviewed on TV many times and to me he seems like a very fine young man.
 
To settle it, could someone call DRF and Lexus and ask, "Hello is R there?" And see if they say "Sorry he doesn't work here anymore" (?)
 
lawlady84 said:
To settle it, could someone call DRF and Lexus and ask, "Hello is R there?" And see if they say "Sorry he doesn't work here anymore" (?)
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Someone :whistle: did call asking for Annie D.

No Annie D's there :)
 
Updating to reference JWG's handwork :thumb: based on the most-recent release of docs...

As detailed here in the Myth Busters thread, as of 1/22/09 LE had reversed their references to the "Gentiva" number to "Lexus of Orlando". Note the description identifying the party on the right-hand side of the inserted image.
 
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