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anxietykiller said:
I'm just saying, I dont think the same killers of LISK killed these women. I dont believe these women were killed by Bittrolff either.
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Do you suspect someone else or do you think there was not enough evidence?
 
I wonder if they even have DNA evidence from the Gilgo 4? Does anyone know? I am feeling that they don't.

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anxietykiller said:
Then why the 20 year gap in killings? He had his signature, which was posing. I don't know. Doesn't add up.
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Why would Bittrolff stop killing? Why would anyone stop killing?
I dont think an outsider killed Colleen, Rita, and Sandra. It might be easy to believe that happened if bodies were found posed in other places.
Bittrolff was young. Maybe he was learning and changed his signature.
 
Learned that he had to hide the bodies better whether it be bittrolf or another. The longer the bodies aren't found, may I assume the less of a chance that dna will be found?

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deedee21 said:
Do you suspect someone else or do you think there was not enough evidence?
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I dont think there was enough evidence, at all. The jury was composed of some 11 women. Why Keahon would let the jury be selected like that makes no sense. I think when you get into posing bodies like that its very ritualistic and MO is different than signature. MO changes, signature really doesn't. The semen inside two escorts also doesn't move me. I know escorts who sleep with many men a day, and many johns patronize them several times a week. Using escorts can be addicting. It doesn't make him an SK.
 
No DNA from GB4. I think the baby found was the killers child. Just my opinion, I have no evidence for this supposition.
 
anxietykiller said:
No DNA from GB4. I think the baby found was the killers child. Just my opinion, I have no evidence for this supposition.
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It was probably at this time the phone games began. The killer had a female call the tattoo artist pretending to be Peaches mother. IMO
 
[FONT=&quot]The answers to this case revolve around Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke and Dr. Peter Hackett. For years, it's alleged that law enforcement has been dragging their feet and not wanting FBI help. Burke was recently jailed for using violence to get what he wants and then threatening subordinates to lie and cover it up, rumors are he used these tactics for years. The Gilbert case was immediately ruled non related and that she took off her own clothes and drowned in shallow water or "succumbed to the elements" even though it was summer. What a coincidence that she happened to run and mysteriously die where all the bodies were found. Later autopsy by Dr. Michael Boden found she was actually strangled like other victims. Burke denied knowing Hackett to a judge at his sentencing but was later found to have worked with him at 911 ground zero among dismembered bodies.




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[FONT=&quot][h=5]Nathan[/h]Dr. Hackett called victim Shannen Gilbert's mom, before she even knew her daughter was missing to say that he had Shannen at his house because he ran a home for wayward girls but Shannen ran off. Dr. Hackett later denied he ever made that call. Police later prove he made 2 calls to Gilbert. When confronted with that information, he said the calls were a year ago so he couldn't remember why he called or what he said. Hackkett lived right behind dumping grounds. Killer also called Melissa Barthelemy's family to taunt them 8 times. So a pattern of killer calling family and we know Hackett called and lied about it.




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[FONT=&quot][h=5]Nathan[/h]Dr. Hackett called victim Shannen Gilbert's mom, before she even knew her daughter was missing to say that he had Shannen at his house because he ran a home for wayward girls but Shannen ran off. Dr. Hackett later denied he ever made that call. Police later prove he made 2 calls to Gilbert. When confronted with that information, he said the calls were a year ago so he couldn't remember why he called or what he said. Hackkett lived right behind dumping grounds. Killer also called Melissa Barthelemy's family to taunt them 8 times. So a pattern of killer calling family and we know Hackett called and lied about it.




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[FONT=&quot]The answers to this case revolve around Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke and Dr. Peter Hackett. For years, it's alleged that law enforcement has been dragging their feet and not wanting FBI help. Burke was recently jailed for using violence to get what he wants and then threatening subordinates to lie and cover it up, rumors are he used these tactics for years. The Gilbert case was immediately ruled non related and that she took off her own clothes and drowned in shallow water or "succumbed to the elements" even though it was summer. What a coincidence that she happened to run and mysteriously die where all the bodies were found. Later autopsy by Dr. Michael Boden found she was actually strangled like other victims. Burke denied knowing Hackett to a judge at his sentencing but was later found to have worked with him at 911 ground zero among dismembered bodies.




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[FONT=&quot][h=5]Nathan[/h]Dr. Hackett called victim Shannen Gilbert's mom, before she even knew her daughter was missing to say that he had Shannen at his house because he ran a home for wayward girls but Shannen ran off. Dr. Hackett later denied he ever made that call. Police later prove he made 2 calls to Gilbert. When confronted with that information, he said the calls were a year ago so he couldn't remember why he called or what he said. Hackkett lived right behind dumping grounds. Killer also called Melissa Barthelemy's family to taunt them 8 times. So a pattern of killer calling family and we know Hackett called and lied about it.




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Nmccabe5000, your post can only be viewed if someone clicks onto reply with quote.
Whos Nathan?
 
I don't think I could handle something large and heavy, wrapped in burlap, during the summer months and feel comfortable that no hair from my body had gotten snagged on it.


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nmccabe5000 said:
The answers to this case revolve around Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke and Dr. Peter Hackett. For years, it's alleged that law enforcement has been dragging their feet and not wanting FBI help. Burke was recently jailed for using violence to get what he wants and then threatening subordinates to lie and cover it up, rumors are he used these tactics for years. The Gilbert case was immediately ruled non related and that she took off her own clothes and drowned in shallow water or "succumbed to the elements" even though it was summer. What a coincidence that she happened to run and mysteriously die where all the bodies were found. Later autopsy by Dr. Michael Boden found she was actually strangled like other victims. Burke denied knowing Hackett to a judge at his sentencing but was later found to have worked with him at 911 ground zero among dismembered bodies.

Dr. Hackett called victim Shannen Gilbert's mom, before she even knew her daughter was missing to say that he had Shannen at his house because he ran a home for wayward girls but Shannen ran off. Dr. Hackett later denied he ever made that call. Police later prove he made 2 calls to Gilbert. When confronted with that information, he said the calls were a year ago so he couldn't remember why he called or what he said. Hackkett lived right behind dumping grounds. Killer also called Melissa Barthelemy's family to taunt them 8 times. So a pattern of killer calling family and we know Hackett called and lied about it.

Dr. Hackett called victim Shannen Gilbert's mom, before she even knew her daughter was missing to say that he had Shannen at his house because he ran a home for wayward girls but Shannen ran off. Dr. Hackett later denied he ever made that call. Police later prove he made 2 calls to Gilbert. When confronted with that information, he said the calls were a year ago so he couldn't remember why he called or what he said. Hackkett lived right behind dumping grounds. Killer also called Melissa Barthelemy's family to taunt them 8 times. So a pattern of killer calling family and we know Hackett called and lied about it

The answers to this case revolve around Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke and Dr. Peter Hackett. For years, it's alleged that law enforcement has been dragging their feet and not wanting FBI help. Burke was recently jailed for using violence to get what he wants and then threatening subordinates to lie and cover it up, rumors are he used these tactics for years. The Gilbert case was immediately ruled non related and that she took off her own clothes and drowned in shallow water or "succumbed to the elements" even though it was summer. What a coincidence that she happened to run and mysteriously die where all the bodies were found. Later autopsy by Dr. Michael Boden found she was actually strangled like other victims. Burke denied knowing Hackett to a judge at his sentencing but was later found to have worked with him at 911 ground zero among dismembered bodies.





Nathan

Dr. Hackett called victim Shannen Gilbert's mom, before she even knew her daughter was missing to say that he had Shannen at his house because he ran a home for wayward girls but Shannen ran off. Dr. Hackett later denied he ever made that call. Police later prove he made 2 calls to Gilbert. When confronted with that information, he said the calls were a year ago so he couldn't remember why he called or what he said. Hackkett lived right behind dumping grounds. Killer also called Melissa Barthelemy's family to taunt them 8 times. So a pattern of killer calling family and we know Hackett called and lied about it.
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It seems that every week in Newsday you will read a story how a cop(s) saved a gaggle of ducklings,or an Osprey, or a cat AND for the K9 cop and his dog Blue who went out on his own initiative went out and found the GB4 and we never heard a word about it other than the name of the cop and his dog.

IMO, this was GREAT POLICE work and the SCPD seems to hide the story behind it.
 
hawkshaw said:
It seems that every week in Newsday you will read a story how a cop(s) saved a gaggle of ducklings,or an Osprey, or a cat AND for the K9 cop and his dog Blue who went out on his own initiative went out and found the GB4 and we never heard a word about it other than the name of the cop and his dog.

IMO, this was GREAT POLICE work and the SCPD seems to hide the story behind it.
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I couldn't agree more with you on this Hawk, great initiative and police work. Just swept under the rug by both the Police and Media.
 
I was told by certain media people they asked to interview the cop and were refused by the PD. If for no other reason this is a great human interest story with no apparent downside. It is ONLY my opinion this cop took a lot of heat for what he did. One missing girl (SG) led to one of the GB4 and it mushroomed to 3 more and to 5 or 6 more and they still don't have a killer.

I was in the business long enough to know is you don't bring back a body if you don't bring someone back in handcuffs.

A classic example of this was demonstrated on a great fiction police show called The Wire. Cops believe bodies are in vacant houses and when they find some they are told to stop looking. The truth is stranger than fiction. When I saw those episodes it didn't get me to guffaw and say this doesn't happen.

A retired SCPD told me he believed many bodies have been found over the years and no homicide investigation was ever conducted.
 
anxietykiller said:
I'm just saying, I dont think the same killers of LISK killed these women. I dont believe these women were killed by Bittrolff either.
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A 20 yr halt in killings,,,I'm saying these killings were ritualistic murders as sacrifices to Rome...by second generation children of the Church..
in the early 90s female patients went missing off of Kings Park Psychiatric Center grounds,never found..I don't ever see any info related...

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As I said before a boss backs a boss in SCPD no matter what they did. In the Bittrolf case the cop who harassed, threatened many women is fired, while the Lt. who was accused of coercing prostitutes into performing sex acts. Further absolute appalling questions concerning a rape of a 15 year old were never answered. There are many questions surrounding the Internal Affairs case of Murphy that should be answered but never will. Poor schmuck Teddy Hart if he studied and promoted he would still be in SCPD. Maybe he could of become Holy Name Society Man of the Year like Burke.
 
Holy Name Society Man of the Year? Seriously?
 
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