Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #8

[Ruminations]

I know. I did COBRA for 6 months in the spring of 2017 and it wasn't bad.

Could have been that MA program I'm referencing.

 

[Just K]

If she is Eli LE for Medicaid or even a little over income, for Medicaid, Medicaid will pay
The premiums.

If eligible for MA, MA will pay the premiums and wrap around it. Ex: MA has no co pay for a visit and her insurance has a 20 co pay, she'd pay zero.

If over income, but poor enough for cobra only (totally forgot the standard. Might be 150% poverty line) she only pays the additional costs like copays but not premiums.

The thing is, they will look at her assets as well as income. With the recent substantial amount of gift money, she may no longer be eligible for insurance through a social services agency. She might be eligible for Social Security disability, though.

 

[Jimmytoast]

DBM

What does that mean

 

[Bree1950]

Agree x 1,000

I feel LE and her Attorney are the only people who really have the facts. I feel for the all of the victim’s and their families. I was surprised her Attorney did his Press Conference because it brought more media to the family which I feel most would want to avoid.

 

[Diddian]

What does that mean

It means "Deleted by Me."

Here's a link to Websleuths Lingo (although that one appears to be missing).

Websleuths Lingo

Thank you KaylynnCouture & ApotheKaren for updating list! :) AFAIC = As Far As I'm Concerned AFAIK = And For All I Know /As far as I know AFK = Away From Keyboard AFKBPOFPOPL = Association For Keeping Basement Party On Front Page Of Parking Lot AKA = Also Known As AI = Artificial...

www.websleuths.com

P.S. Welcome to Websleuths!

 

[Jimmytoast]

It means "Deleted by Me."

Here's a link to Websleuths Lingo (although that one appears to be missing).

Websleuths Lingo

Thank you KaylynnCouture & ApotheKaren for updating list! :) AFAIC = As Far As I'm Concerned AFAIK = And For All I Know /As far as I know AFK = Away From Keyboard AFKBPOFPOPL = Association For Keeping Basement Party On Front Page Of Parking Lot AKA = Also Known As AI = Artificial...

www.websleuths.com

P.S. Welcome to Websleuths!

Haha thank you, I wasn’t sure what was deleted lol. Appreciate it!

 

[Bree1950]

I couldn't agree with you more! I like how JR praised the current investigators in this case by saying he has complete trust in their abilities. JR seems to have a lot of inside information from his many years of investigating the LISK that we are not privy to. In my opinion, he is relevant. The contrast is striking. JR is talking about the case. RM is talking about $$$ and more $$$$$$$. Gimme. Gimme. Gimme. And yet he is the first to point his finger at JR's intention for speaking out. Some can see through the facade. MOO

John Ray has represented and assisted many victims and did cases with the current Suffolk County DA when the DA was a Federal Prosecutor. He has spent over a decade working tirelessly to get Shannan’s and Jessica’s cases investigated. I respect him and find him believable.

 

[iamshadow21]

What does that mean

Deleted by me. There's no way to delete a post, so if someone changes their mind about something they posted or they double post by accident, most people will edit the post and replace it with dbm or something similar. Edit window is an hour, so anything older than that is there for good, unless it's removed by a moderator. Welcome to Websleuths! Below is a post with more handy abbreviations, some more commonly used than others. Each thread also tends to develop its own abbreviations, especially for key players in the case (victims, suspects, family, witnesses, law enforcement, lawyers, etc.)

Websleuths Lingo

Thank you KaylynnCouture & ApotheKaren for updating list! :) AFAIC = As Far As I'm Concerned AFAIK = And For All I Know /As far as I know AFK = Away From Keyboard AFKBPOFPOPL = Association For Keeping Basement Party On Front Page Of Parking Lot AKA = Also Known As AI = Artificial...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Jimmytoast]

Deleted by me. There's no way to delete a post, so if someone changes their mind about something they posted or they double post by accident, most people will edit the post and replace it with dbm or something similar. Edit window is an hour, so anything older than that is there for good, unless it's removed by a moderator. Welcome to Websleuths! Below is a post with more handy abbreviations, some more commonly used than others. Each thread also tends to develop its own abbreviations, especially for key players in the case (victims, suspects, law enforcement, lawyers, etc.)

Websleuths Lingo

Thank you KaylynnCouture & ApotheKaren for updating list! :) AFAIC = As Far As I'm Concerned AFAIK = And For All I Know /As far as I know AFK = Away From Keyboard AFKBPOFPOPL = Association For Keeping Basement Party On Front Page Of Parking Lot AKA = Also Known As AI = Artificial...

www.websleuths.com

Thank you so much I understand now! So sorry to make you explain lol. Thank you for being patient with me! I will do my absolute best to follow the rules and blend in here. Xo

 

[Teche]

Her retelling of events does seem to include more and more details as time goes on. Curious that she now says that RH mentioned a hammer. I suspect the next time we hear from her she will say that he mentioned a " cabinet maker's hammer ".

All JMO

I'd love to see RH’s woodworking projects. The woodworking is probably on par with his home repairs.

 

[iamshadow21]

Thank you so much I understand now! So sorry to make you explain lol. Thank you for being patient with me! I will do my absolute best to follow the rules and blend in here. Xo

Everyone asks questions to begin with. I haven't even been here a year. You'll pick it up quickly, and hopefully won't blend in TOO much. We all bring something to the table by virtue of being ourselves.

MOO

 

[Teche]

yes, but it is like $1500 a month for her and a kid

Yes, but her son would qualify for Medicaid if he doesn't already have it. Her daughter was employed and probably had it through her employer (her father’s firm). The daughter should be responsible for her own medical insurance.

 

[zvzvzvzv]

Was it someone from here who uncovered this?

It was me but I didn't post it on WS.

 

[Betty P]

It was me but I didn't post it on WS.

Good work!

 

[Barbie619]

I don’t know if ai believe all of what she claims. Jmo

I'm not sure either. She seems to be adding information everytime she speaks. If I wasn't looking directly at her speaking I would think I'm listening to Anna Nicole Smith. JMHO

 

[Barbie619]

As a wife, who has no income of her own and, after many years of being a housewife, is now too old (too sick?) for a job, doesn't AE have to receive maintenance from her husband, including health care costs?

He is no longer employed so he doesn't have the money to alimony. If/when the house is sold I'm not sure she can get any of that money because his name is on the deed. Minus all the debts he has, he's going to be in the poor house himself. AE should think about applying for social security disability. She will be eligible for her husbands social amount due to the length of her marriage, if she is approved. She will need help with her application. JMO

 

[Ruminations]

The thing is, they will look at her assets as well as income. With the recent substantial amount of gift money, she may no longer be eligible for insurance through a social services agency. She might be eligible for Social Security disability, though.

This is the interesting thing.

There is not an asset test for Medicaid, EXCEPT for the aged or disabled.

Aged means 65. Disabled means disabled by SSA's standards, and eligible for social security disability (SSD) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI).

(SSI is different the SSD in this way: it is means tested. You have to be in poverty and have low assets. SSD is based on earnings quarters; you get it if you had a work history and became disabled. Like a SS retirement pension, it does not depend on your assets at all. But SSD and SSI are similar in that you have to be VERY disabled and/or ready for years of fights and lawyers.)

If AE has assets but low income, and she is not certified disabled by the SSA, she does not have an asset test for Medicaid.

If she is certified disabled by SSA, then she has an asset test. Even if she has an asset test, MA won't hold it against her that she can't liquidate immediately. They could put a lien on property she is trying in good faith to sell. But that is not a big deal.

If she is eligible for Medicaid, the state will evaluate her current insurance and pay the premiums if it seems cost effective. Then, Medicaid becomes the payer of her premiums, and her secondary insurance. Often, MA calculates that they will save money paying the insurance.

If the insurance is not a good deal, she will have to pick a Medicaid plan. Those Medicaid Managed care plans have premiums, too, that the state pays to the plans.

Now what about those gifts? Depends. They are income in the month received. Then they become assets and any income derived (interest income) becomes income.

I really don't buy that her medical insurance is that big an issue. I'd have to see the books, lol.

Medicaid is not going to sit quietly while someone hides money. But if she is upfront about potential future money, such as from sale of property, MA can work with her. They won't hold it against her if it's not in her pocket now.

If she is disabled and has an asset test, there are trusts and liens that help with that. People freak when, for example, MA has a lien on Grammie's house because she can't live there anymore and has moved to a nursing home. But truth be told, MA will get a much better price for medical care than anyone else. So the money MA recoups will be a fraction of the amount Grammie would be billed directly.

And, MA would never put a lien on a home occupied by someone with a legit claim to it, like any of the three family members who are not incarcerated.

Can MA be complicated? Yes. Could her lawyers help? Only if that is their intention. They could complicate things by mishandling the G F yourself fund. They could do her a disservice simply by telling her she's screwed instead of telling her to consider Medicaid.

MOO

Edited to add photos.

Aged/disabled MA is also called "non-MAGI." (Don't try to understand.) For those not aged or disabled, it is called "MAGI," but I guess that became so confusing it's just called Medicaid on the attached chart.

The Medicaid chart, if she's not age/disabled, is monochrome and indicates income limits for a few programs like Medicaid. I believe she falls into MA adult, household size 1 limit. That is 138% of the poverty line. The amount changes every year. Currently $1677.00 per month.

If she's disabled (again, a much higher bar than people think- it's not like getting a special parking permit) her income limits and asset limits are indicated. They're not crazy high. And there are ways to legally put aside funds as a plan for self sufficiency- like if she is disabled now but thinks after she will become able to earn money, she can put aside money she needs to make that transition. Takes some honest creativity, and in good faith you can really make a plan to move back to the work world and fund it. The income and asset limits for aged/disabled are printed in blue and back.


MOO

 

[sds71]

What's jail life like for Rex Heuermann? News 12 goes behind bars to get a glimpse

Heuermann is being held at the Suffolk County Correctional Facility in a 60-square-foot cell.

connecticut.news12.com

 

[dotr]

Wondering if the subway that RH took each day to work, runs along stretches where private spaces might be found? He seems to move in straight lines, speculation, imo, fwiw.

Manhattan architect, family man and accused serial killer: Who is Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann?

A Manhattan architect and father-of-two has been arrested in connection to one of the most infamous unsolved serial killer cases along the East Coast. So who really is Rex Heuermann? Rachel Sharp reports

news.yahoo.com

Map showing proximity of home being searched by police and Gilgo Beach where bodies were found (Google Maps)

 

[Barbie619]

Yeah and in another interview she was talking about how RH was talking about marshes and getting stuck in them or something. Idk i think she may have had an encounter with him but I don’t believe most of her accounts unfortunately. I think the sex workers that they are speaking to with potential info are not going around divulging things in interviews. Just doesn't sit with me well. Jmo.

I'm still considering whether she's telling the truth or just boosting about more than what had happened. It is interesting that she now says he told her his name. If that's true, she was most likely going to be murdered by him at his house. JMHO