Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #14

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I don't know how much it matters but there is eye dominance as well as hand dominance. While most people have associated dominance (i.e. right hand/right eye OR left hand/left eye) there are some cross-overs in the population. None of RH's alleged victims suffered gun wounds but this eye dominance could be a factor regarding his shooting/hunting with a firearm.
 
That's the way I understood your post... as examples. And, it was a good first post!

jmo
Thank you for your kind words and warm welcome. I appreciate this community because the members are so respectful towards each other and the moderation is active and effective. I only wish I could wake up and realize that this whole LISK case was just a bad dream.
Apparently he loved enforcing rules just not following them.
If a person has sociopathic tendencies, they don't care about rules and laws unless it benefits them personally. But, of course, not everyone who drinks beer on the train is a sociopath.
 
I agree with everything...
I had made a post about it on the presumed call that RH had made to JZ and RM authors of "the killing season" during filming to mislead them.. still wondering how he did it with no one who reasoned with me :(
Yes, that's an even easier (for him) and better way to provide investigators with "miss-leaders", just call it in. I was thinking of things he could leave behind or changes he could make in his M.O., which still also might apply, but if he could just call in a misleading tip, even easier. Like call in to the tipline and report that he saw someone of her description get into a car, and make up a car description that doesn't match his vehicle.

Of course, we've heard that tips might be ignored and never get called back or followed up on, and this might be one reason why, because they didn't trust them to be true. So that might not work after the first few times or something, but who knows. I didn't know about him possibly calling in a tip to that show.
 
NY Post. Not sure story/encounter was officially confirmed by LE.

In the article, she states she was so disturbed she filed a police report. The date being July 3rd is interesting because that fits in with his alleged july crimes.
Accused of killing:
JT disappeared sometime between July 18-21, 2003
MBB July 9, 2007
MB July 12, 2009,

Other Possible RH victims:
Peaches sometime around June 25-26, 1997
Tanya Rush found June 27, 2008 in North Bellmore
 
I don't know how much it matters but there is eye dominance as well as hand dominance. While most people have associated dominance (i.e. right hand/right eye OR left hand/left eye) there are some cross-overs in the population. None of RH's alleged victims suffered gun wounds but this eye dominance could be a factor regarding his shooting/hunting with a firearm.
If it’s determined that he killed Andre Jamal aka Sugar Bear, his skull had a bullet hole near his temple.
 
Random comments and questions, fwiw, imo, speculation.
Assuming RH is lefthanded from the photo below, or is that only when he is working ''on his tablet'' with a beer can in his right hand?
Did RH ever contact the brothers of his alleged victims, or just the sisters?
Where did he make the calls from - home, his car, commuting, at work, from a bar?
Did he do it when wife and kids were in town, what time of day or night?

Does he only contact sisters, did he specifically choose victims who had happened to have sisters?
Did he prefer (not just petite women), but those with ''bright blue eyes'', like himself (family trait), and Barthelemy?
As someone who lost his father when young, he would know the exquisite pain his taunting phone calls would be for his victim's sisters.
Was RH taunted soon after his father died, was something unkind said to him about his siblings, his father?

March '24 rbbm
''The unnamed commuter, a former CVS employee, posted the image of Heuermann nursing a tall can of beer in a brown paper bag while riding the Long Island Railroad Babylon line.
Wearing glasses and with a brown leather jacket hung nearby, the accused killer appears to be working on a tablet
in the haunting picture dated March 9, 2015.''
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2023 rbbm.
''Sara Karnes was sitting in her Times Square hotel room when she says she received a cell phone call from a blocked number.

She said the voice on the other line, an unknown male caller who was calm and matter of fact, revealed personal details about her friend, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who vanished days earlier in July 2007 while working as an escort in New York City.
"'I just saw her,'" Karnes recalls the man saying. "'She's at a whorehouse in Queens.'"
''The authorities claim the killer also used the cell phone of one of his victims, Melissa Barthelemy, to make a series of taunting phone calls to her family in Buffalo, N.Y., in the summer of 2009. Those calls allegedly pinged from towers near New York's Penn Station and other areas of Manhattan''.

2023 rbbm
"I'm watching your sister rot," the killer said to Barthelemy's younger sister, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the phone calls.''
"Every time I talk about it, it doesn't get any easier," Karnes said. "She had these bright blue eyes. She was very outgoing, very outspoken."

''Amanda F. told PIX11 News the man cruelly called her family seven times, using her sister’s cellphone shortly after Barthelemy disappeared in 2009.
“He killed Melissa after having sex with her,” Amanda F. recounted. “In the final call, he said he’d killed her.”
That final call was Aug. 26, 2009, according to Tierney, who released the dates of the seven calls during Heuermann’s criminal arraignment Friday.''

“He needed to taunt their families with calls to gloat about having killed their loved ones, in order to inflict pain on them, as well.”
“Is this Melissa’s little sister?” an anonymous male voice asked the victim’s then-16-year-old sister, Amanda, during one phone call.
“Do you know what your sister is doing? She’s a *advertiser censored*.”

I wonder who took that photo of him on the subway?
That must be a toupee, no way is that his natural hair. I think he is bald.
 
In the article, she states she was so disturbed she filed a police report. The date being July 3rd is interesting because that fits in with his alleged july crimes.
Accused of killing:
JT disappeared sometime between July 18-21, 2003
MBB July 9, 2007
MB July 12, 2009,

Other Possible RH victims:
Peaches sometime around June 25-26, 1997
Tanya Rush found June 27, 2008 in North Bellmore
Jamie Seymour also disappeared in July.
 
It is a lot to insist that AE or children be interviewed.

LE has to arrest them, have a court proceeding to which they can be subpoenaed and put under oath, or that kind of thing. There has to be a very good reason. And no matter what nobody can be compelled to speak without an attorney, or such that it would incriminate oneself.

Any conversation is voluntary. It appears to me there have been some voluntary interactions; for instance Asa provided her DNA.

But for some reason, Macedonio emphasized from day one that Asa didn't have anything to add, and claimed LE never asked for her to speak to them. That LE never asked for her observations is a strained claim, to put it mildly.

I suppose she could have been called to the grand jury; we wouldn't know at this point. But I highly doubt it because it would have tipped off her husband. So she has probably never been subpoenaed as a witness.

My intuition says that what really happened is Macedonio told Asa not to talk voluntarily. He told he will go along for any interview they insist upon, if in fact LE can insist. And she has never been compelled to talk in any way that we could learn.

If I were LE I wouldn't announce she isn't speaking to me if all of the evasions are legal. I'd say exactly what is being said: she is cooperating fully. If she is not subpoenaed, she doesn't have to speak. Thus, she is cooperating.In addition, if I were LE and she was afraid of getting "caught" talking, I'd make sure she doesn't get caught. So there is a legit reason to say nothing about what Asa says.

But the signs are, Asa is saying and cooperating as little as possible.

I have to find a quote. I recall Asa said something to the press to the effect that she had to keep her mouth shut per her attorney or something like that.

MOO
Thanks for your reply.
I had asked because Macedonio said " investigators had never interviewed Ms. Ellerup or the couple’s children" making it sound like they could have but chose not to.


"Mr. Macedonio said that investigators had never interviewed Ms. Ellerup or the couple’s children and that there was no indication they would be charged."
 
Wouldn't someone notice the smell?!
The neighbors?

Good question.

Heaven (or hell) only knows how he might have rid his torture chamber of any lingering odors IF he adhered to his list of no air/sound in and no air/sound out, and at least used kitty litter (although I'm not sure exactly how effective kitty litter is on smells). Maybe he learned of other methods to aerate the basement? You'd think someone would smell something "off" but ??? Also, even if he took bodies to one of his storage units for an interim period ... one would assume there would be a smell. Maybe he used refrigeration/a freezer at some point in time??

jmo
 
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In the article, she states she was so disturbed she filed a police report. The date being July 3rd is interesting because that fits in with his alleged july crimes.
Accused of killing:
JT disappeared sometime between July 18-21, 2003
MBB July 9, 2007
MB July 12, 2009,

Other Possible RH victims:
Peaches sometime around June 25-26, 1997
Tanya Rush found June 27, 2008 in North Bellmore
That is also peak vacation time.
 
Good question.

Heaven (or hell) only knows how he might have rid his torture chamber of any lingering odors IF he adhered to his list of no air/sound in and no air/sound out, and at least used kitty litter (although I'm not sure exactly how effective kitty litter is on smells). Maybe he learned of other methods to aerate the basement? You'd think someone would smell something "off" but ??? Also, even if he took bodies to one of his storage units for an interim period ... one would assume there would be a smell. Maybe he used refrigeration/a freezer at some point in time??
Kitty litter would do nothing except absorb fluids, Maybe that is why he used it.
I think he had another place. I really do. A fridge is a possibility.
 
Jamie Seymour also disappeared in July.
Thanks, I just brushed the surface on the possibles. I am noticing a trend as to the ones I suspect him of being responsible for- there are a lot of mid to late Novembers and around holiday weekends.
ETA: Jamie was last heard from on July 22, 2005. She called her father and said she was at the Zport Authority.
 
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How many ocean-access roads exist on Ocean Parkway? Is it legal to drive on any of the beaches? Are there "legit" or not-usually-monitored parking areas where you might leave your vehicle and walk on foot? 'Just wondering if he possibly re-visited the bodies in this manner.
 
Good question.

Heaven (or hell) only knows how he might have rid his torture chamber of any lingering odors IF he adhered to his list of no air/sound in and no air/sound out, and at least used kitty litter (although I'm not sure exactly how effective kitty litter is on smells). Maybe he learned of other methods to aerate the basement? You'd think someone would smell something "off" but ??? Also, even if he took bodies to one of his storage units for an interim period ... one would assume there would be a smell. Maybe he used refrigeration/a freezer at some point in time??

jmo
Get cadaver dogs in both areas
 
So, Macedonio basically owes his ability to practice law to Spota. Spota is a key player in the systemic, institutionalized corruption in SC.

And with that origin story, Macedonio appeared like magic to start saying unkind things about both the investigation and Asa herself, whom he theoretically represented. ("She has to focus on her mental heath." Don't we all have to? But an announcement like that sounded to me like he was gaslighting her rather than representing her.)

Macedonio is theoretically representing Asa, but spends air time defending Rex and bashing John Ray. Note that the person who assembled the task force and oversaw its most productive months embraced John Ray's information and encouraged witnesses unwilling or unable to approach LE to approach John Ray.

One minor but irksome thing Macedonio said on Court TV was that the task force was assembled by Tierney. No, it was not! It was assembled by Commissioner Rodney Harrison. There was some tension between them, but in my opinion, Rodney Harrison's leadership highlighted all the best in Tierney. The kind words that I have for Tierney are because of Rodney Harrison. Rodney Harrison had a "no egos" rule which Macedonio violated.

The person who was most instrumental in identifying a suspect [Rex] to surveil and ultimately arrest was a State Trooper. Without Rodney Harrison's leadership, Tierney would not have had access to talent from agencies outside of Suffolk County.

IMO, Macedonio is trying to interfere with the investigation into LISK.

MOO
I always thought Macedonio saying he's calling Brown as questionable.
I'm curious what this back-channel communications end-game may be between the lawyers of the accused serial killer and his supporting wife?
What did Macedonio know about the "basement" and from who did he get the info from?

"Mr Macedonio said he wasn’t “at liberty to discuss” why exactly he believed investigators focused on the basement. But said he planned to notify Heuermann’s defense attorney, Michael Brown, of Central Islip, of what he observed in the house."


 
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