Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #14

[Ruminations]

Given the source material and what's transpired in the time since this claim was made, I don't' give it much weight, either.

There is no reason to doubt that there was something in that bag that Burke was really upset about. Since it was his gun belt, not a gun, I think something illegal is far more likely than something bland like romantic depot merchandise.

There is VERY GOOD reason to doubt Burke side of the story. Burke was the criminal and behind the coverup in this story. Loeb was the victim.

It is true that Loeb changed the details of the story. But every version is bad. And, at first, before being beaten up, he had to fear being beaten up. So it makes sense for the story to be watered down to appease an abuser. When the abuser is on the defensive, the details might become more accurate and more angering to the abuser. KWIM? For his own safety Loeb might have understated at first.

Of course, once the narrative starts to change, the details become in doubt. But even if Loeb never saw snuff, we still know a few people reported that Burke casually asked them for snuff.

MOO

Changed "staff" to "snuff"

 

[kdsmith21]

I wonder if DEREK is a real person or even an accomplice. Or someone who wants to blame?

Did Derek know what he might be building? Maybe he was just using Rex saw? I can't imagine Rex needed help to cut them

 

[Ruminations]

Did Derek know what he might be building? Maybe he was just using Rex saw? I can't imagine Rex needed help to cut them

He flies into town to borrow a saw?

It is weird. Derek is probably part of the getting the story straight step.

MOO

 

[CuriousCricket]

If someone can find the exact place in the park where this occurred.

Don't think info was specific.
Article says, "on July 3 in Brady Park, which is just a few minutes’ drive from Heuermann’s home on 1st Avenue in Massapequa Park."

He approached her, breathing behind her and close enough to see photo of her boyfriend on her phone. RH asked for the time, kept popping up, asked her name and if she came there often. terrifying.

Long Island woman, 25, reveals recent disturbing encounter with Gilgo Beach serial killings suspect Rex Heuermann

“My mom showed me the picture and I started screaming. I got so nervous because I realized that that was him,” Ally told The Post.

nypost.com

 

[x_files]

If someone can find the exact place in the park where this occurred.

I hope they searched the entire park + trail. Brady Park is exactly a 3-minute drive or a short 23-minute walk from RH's house—an easy place to stalk prey and return with a car.

 

[x_files]

He flies into town to borrow a saw?

It is weird. Derek is probably part of the getting the story straight step.

MOO

I wish this mysterious DEREK would please come forth.
If you were friends with Rex and noticed your name pop up- what would you do? Call the police and offer info. Or hire an attorney first, then call the police?
Does he have to come forward?

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

I still believe that, in at least some cases, he was able to lure the women into the house with the promise of a drink or drugs, etc. Recall Shannan went into the house at Oak Beach before becoming so frightened that she called 911.

SW's go willingly into hotel rooms, houses and cars to conduct business transactions. I think if RH had a SW in his truck, that he wanted in his house, he would just coldcock them. I don't think he risked having "outcalls" dropped off or driving to his house.

In fairness to the homeowner, SG also wasn't lured into a house, she had a client that was paying her per an arrangement and after some time of being there, she was asked to leave the house. Her own driver tried to get her to leave in his car. Nothing showed that her driver or the "client" actions did anything to cause the fright. MOO

‘Somebody's After Me:' Shannan Gilbert's Long-Secret 911 Calls Are Out. Listen Here

The 911 calls are disorganized. At times she is coherent. At others, she slurs her words. Sometimes she doesn’t respond at all. And at times, she is heard screaming.

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Knitty]

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Dragging Tricia's reminder forward. Thanks, y'all!

 

[Teche]

there's a picture at this link of the garage supposedly after they put the belongings back in ... no room for vehicles

Rex Heuermann’s family releases photos of ravaged home after cops wrecked house

Rex Heuermann’s family reveal the mess that was left behind after authorities tore through the house after two weeks of search warrants.

nypost.com

I think he took the victims in through the back basement entrance that goes directly down into his 'dungeon' - picture at the link below (assuming it was possible to enter the backyard from either side of the house)

NY cops end search of Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s home, family can move back in

Cops have pulled whatever evidence they could from the “very cluttered” Long Island property of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann.

nypost.com

I can't imagine the task of searching this property not once but twice. How could LE even begin sorting through piles and piles of boxes.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I wish this mysterious DEREK would please come forth.
If you were friends with Rex and noticed your name pop up- what would you do? Call the police and offer info. Or hire an attorney first, then call the police?
Does he have to come forward?

LE are trained investigators. I'm betting they already know everything there is to know about Derek.

 

[x_files]

LE are trained investigators. I'm betting they already know everything there is to know about Derek.

I wish we knew more about DEREK.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I wish we knew more about DEREK.

Yep, don't we just? BTW, I don't have any idea what I would do if I were Derek. He'd have to know they'd find him. I'd think the smart thing to do --- IF he even sees or becomes aware of his name becoming public in this monstrous case -- would be to call LE and say, "Hey, I'm Derek. I can not believe this." But I'd probably put it off for a long time.

 

[x_files]

Yep, don't we just?

waiting for the trial is hard.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Rex says he make furniture. Maybe he just means crude tables for torture. Maybe he made that rather nice bench on the porch. But either way, I bet he can cut his own 6x6

That very hefty bench's legs look to be 4X4's and if you look to the side of bench to AE's left, you can see the difference in size between the porch/ overhang post and the bench. The porch post is larger, as it should be. A 6X6 is actually 5.5" and a 4X4 is 3.5".
6X6 posts are expensive, they would be overkill and unnecessary for anything less than structural support. If I got some shorter ones for free, I might rip them down to repurpose, otherwise it would be throwing money away.

 

[Onlyguessing23]

Did Derek know what he might be building? Maybe he was just using Rex saw? I can't imagine Rex needed help to cut them

Depending on how long the 6x6 posts are, he might need another person to support it while sawing.

 

[PickleChris]

Don't think info was specific.
Article says, "on July 3 in Brady Park, which is just a few minutes’ drive from Heuermann’s home on 1st Avenue in Massapequa Park."

He approached her, breathing behind her and close enough to see photo of her boyfriend on her phone. RH asked for the time, kept popping up, asked her name and if she came there often. terrifying.

Long Island woman, 25, reveals recent disturbing encounter with Gilgo Beach serial killings suspect Rex Heuermann

“My mom showed me the picture and I started screaming. I got so nervous because I realized that that was him,” Ally told The Post.

nypost.com

Brady has a history with strange things happening on the west side of the park by the train tracks. If you grew up in the area, I'm sure you have some stories about that area. It's definitely a spot worth looking around.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Brady has a history with strange things happening on the west side of the park by the train tracks. If you grew up in the area, I'm sure you have some stories about that area. It's definitely a spot worth looking around.

What kind of things?

 

[Just K]

I wish this mysterious DEREK would please come forth.
If you were friends with Rex and noticed your name pop up- what would you do? Call the police and offer info. Or hire an attorney first, then call the police?
Does he have to come forward?

Maybe Derek is the male torso found near Jessica.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I don't know how, but Rex had a public defender. We don't know who is paying the attorneys for the family. They might just be satisfied with their own contracts with Peacock plus favors old and new. We have just been reminded that Spota allowed Macedonio to practice law after cocaine and bribe convictions.

I'm not at all comfortable with this documentary situation and I will not be watching it.

There is something very wrong about a witness saying she has nothing of value to say to LE, but has a million dollar statement for Peacock.

MOO

RH never had a Public Defender.
He was appointed/assigned Brown before his July 14,2023 court appearance by the judge who also sent the case to Judge Mazzei.
The case is so huge and the amount of evidence so overwhelming that besides appointing RH an overloaded cases public defender who may have no experience with defending an accused murderer no less 3 murders charges which is now 6 murders charges.
Brown gets paid hourly by the state,PD are on salary.
Brown now has IIRC: 3-4 (?) other lawyers on his team, he mentioned that after the last superseding indictment.
There's a list or a rotating list judges use for appointing lawyers.
Be it a PD or court assigned lawyer the state pays.

 

[dotr]

I wonder if DEREK is a real person or even an accomplice. Or someone who he wants to blame?

Seems like 'someone' associated with the number 6, the ''6x6 wood' and the airport pickup also @ 6. imo.