Girl, 9, aborts twins after rape

[lonetraveler]

It is my opinion that the Bishop needs to be excamunicated! The Catholic Church should be ashamed. Any religion, I repeat, any religion should not be advocating this sort of inhumane treatment of a nine year old girl.

 

[lonetraveler]

I am pro-life, but for someone to suggest that a 9 year old carry TWINS to term is insane.
I hope her step father is punished SEVERELY...and I hope this young girl gets counseling in order to live a semi-normal, healthy life.
Wow. There is so much I could say, but there just aren't words.

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I'm thinking castration, brutal rape, his hands cut off and his mouth sewn closed until he starves to death. Did I cover it all? But that is just me. I get really mad when it concerns a child.

 

[MyLilElves]

This is disgustingly horrible for that little girl. She'll be in my prayers.

 

[Kat]

" Roman Catholic archbishop says the abortion of twins carried by a 9-year-old girl who allegedly was raped by her stepfather means excommunication for the girl's mother and her doctors.
Despite the nature of the case, the church had to hold its line against abortion, Archbishop Jose Cardoso Sobrinho said in an interview aired Thursday by Globo television.

"The law of God is higher than any human laws," he said. "When a human law — that is, a law enacted by human legislators — is against the law of God, that law has no value. The adults who approved, who carried out this abortion have incurred excommunication."

Health Minister Jose Gomes Temporao rebuked the archbishop, saying, "I'm shocked by two facts: by what happened to the girl and by the position of the archbishop, who in saying he defends life puts another at risk."

Abortion is generally illegal in Brazil, which is home to more Catholics than any other nation. But the procedure is allowed when the mother's life is in danger, when the fetus has no chance of survival or in rape cases where the woman has not passed her 20th week of pregnancy.
Doctors said the girl was 15 weeks pregnant when the abortion was performed Wednesday in the northeastern city of Recife, where Sobrinho is archbishop. Health officials said the life of the girl — who weighs 80 pounds — was in danger.

The pregnancy was discovered last week when the girl fell ill and her mother took her to a clinic. The child then told officials she had been abused by her stepfather, who is in police custody.

A similar case in southern Brazil surfaced Thursday. Authorities in Rio Grande do Sul state told the O Globo newspaper that an 11-year-old girl allegedly raped by her stepfather is seven months pregnant.

The 51-year-old stepfather has been in jail since January while the girl is in a hospital for high risk pregnancies and apparently will not have an abortion.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,505183,00.html

 

[lonetraveler]

Well, the Archbishop stated that "The law of God is higher than any human laws," he said. "When a human law — that is, a law enacted by human legislators — is against the law of God, that law has no value. The adults who approved, who carried out this abortion have incurred excommunication."

I'm wondering if the Catholic priest who were proved to have raped little boys were excommunicated??????? Or is this law just pertaining to little girls?

 

[southcitymom]

It seems like once a year or so there's a thread similar to this with a young girl in a horrible situation like this in another country and the Catholic Church getting involved. The Catholic Church's stance on abortion is very direct and does not change based on individual circumstance of the woman bearing the pregnancy.

I am pro-choice. My prayers to this girl and her family. I hope they will find a church that answers their spiritual needs in a more compassionate manner.

 

[lizzybeth]

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We are not talking about a "woman" here. We are talking about a little nine year old girl who was raped by her stepfather. A horrendous crime. There should have never been any debate on whether this little girl should be subjected to more pain and horror and yes, maybe even death. Have you ever noticed that when you hear that the "church" thinks that the little girl should endure having the twins, that it is really "men in the church" who know absolutely nothing about little girls or birthing children. The only thing they know about is impregnating the little girls. Priest shouldn't even know about that. I have a real problem with "men of the church" deciding that this little girl should suffer more abuse. Disgusting.

EXACTLY! and I think I stated that in my posts. Geez.

 

[lizzybeth]

It seems like once a year or so there's a thread similar to this with a young girl in a horrible situation like this in another country and the Catholic Church getting involved. The Catholic Church's stance on abortion is very direct and does not change based on individual circumstance of the woman bearing the pregnancy.

I am pro-choice. My prayers to this girl and her family. I hope they will find a church that answers their spiritual needs in a more compassionate manner.

I agree. I hope there is another Catholic church that might accept them. I don't know what God the Catholic church worships but my God would have compassion for this little girl and her mother. This little girl has suffered enough without feeling the embarrassment and guilt of her and her mother being excommunicated.

 

[wildTrose]

isnt it amazing...the stepfather is not excommunicated...He's probably gets to confess his sins and wipe the slate clean!
You know like the priests who molest little boys....molest today...confess tomorrow its all ok

 

[zadari]

that poor child , my husband just spit out his coffee and almost threw up after reading this story .he thinks men that rape should be castrated ..i feel bad that the babies had to die but she is a baby herself .. its so tragic all the way around ..

 

[zadari]

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I'm thinking castration, brutal rape, his hands cut off and his mouth sewn closed until he starves to death. Did I cover it all? But that is just me. I get really mad when it concerns a child.

the hubby and i are right on this with ya ..

 

[lizzybeth]

that poor child , my husband just spit out his coffee and almost threw up after reading this story .he thinks men that rape should be castrated ..i feel bad that the babies had to die but she is a baby herself .. its so tragic all the way around ..

I have a feeling the babies might not have survived anyway. Who knows, the little girl might not have survived if she had tried to carry them. I know the doctor said it would be impossible for her to deliver them.

 

[JaneInOz]

ANYONE that would suggest a CHILD of NINE years old should bear a baby either one or TWINS should be treated for a mental illness

A child isnt even fully formed at that age.

Unbelievable that she even got pregnant at that age

She would be made to give the children up to adoption.

Its disgusting all round. and she should NOT be made to have have a pregnancy and give birth. God didn't intend for children to bear children

 

[Bobbisangel]

It gets worse.....
Bishop punishes mom for daughter's abortion
RIO DE JANEIRO - A Roman Catholic archbishop says the abortion of twins carried by a 9-year-old girl who allegedly was raped by her stepfather means excommunication for the girl's mother and her doctors.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29531755

Just what gives that archbishop the right to play God? Would he rather that little girl carry those babies and die!! I hope the mother just goes and finds herself a church with a good minister who understands why it was necessary to abort these babies. The nerve of that archbishop :banghead:

 

[Bobbisangel]

Poor girl! Nine years old seems really young to be having peirod. She had to have been in third or fourth grade is all. Wow, so sad for this little girl.

It isn't young at all now days. Most of the girls start around 9 years and I feel so sorry for them. They are still just little girls and have to put up with all of that at such a young age.

 

[Bobbisangel]

isnt it amazing...the stepfather is not excommunicated...He's probably gets to confess his sins and wipe the slate clean!
You know like the priests who molest little boys....molest today...confess tomorrow its all ok

Well when they all meet their maker that confession isn't going to be worth a penny. I wonder what did happen to the stepfather. Was he arrested?

 

[Bobbisangel]

Well, the Archbishop stated that "The law of God is higher than any human laws," he said. "When a human law — that is, a law enacted by human legislators — is against the law of God, that law has no value. The adults who approved, who carried out this abortion have incurred excommunication."

I'm wondering if the Catholic priest who were proved to have raped little boys were excommunicated??????? Or is this law just pertaining to little girls?

Heck no the priests weren't kicked out. They were most generally just moved to another town so no one would know what perverts they were. Everything was covered up for them. Never mind the little kids that they damaged for life. This little girl was raped....BIG difference.

 

[Kat]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7930380.stm

snipped from link:

"Cardinal Re, who heads the Roman Catholic Church's Congregation for Bishops and the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, told La Stampa that the archbishop had been right to excommunicate the mother and doctors."

There is further history of this family in that article.

The title of the article is incorrect I think. In that it says the Vatican supports this ArchBishop.

As I said earlier, I would be very surprised if this didn't go to the Vatican. I don't think the last word has been said as of yet, but I could be wrong.

I haven't paid a lot of attention to the new Pope. In fact, I would have to google his name but I'm not going to right now because I'm being lazy.

This could be, and may very well be appealed to the Pope. As I said I don't know this Pope but the last one was a merciful one and kind. He wouldn't have allowed this to happen.

(O/T but I'm not catholic so I don't follow as closely the Popes)

 

[lizzybeth]

"Brazil only permits abortions in cases of rape or health risks to the mother."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7930380.stm

Doesn't this case fit BOTH those situations?

 

[OrdinaryLife]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7930380.stm

snipped from link:

"Cardinal Re, who heads the Roman Catholic Church's Congregation for Bishops and the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, told La Stampa that the archbishop had been right to excommunicate the mother and doctors."

There is further history of this family in that article.

The title of the article is incorrect I think. In that it says the Vatican supports this ArchBishop.

As I said earlier, I would be very surprised if this didn't go to the Vatican. I don't think the last word has been said as of yet, but I could be wrong.

I haven't paid a lot of attention to the new Pope. In fact, I would have to google his name but I'm not going to right now because I'm being lazy.

This could be, and may very well be appealed to the Pope. As I said I don't know this Pope but the last one was a merciful one and kind. He wouldn't have allowed this to happen.

(O/T but I'm not catholic so I don't follow as closely the Popes)

The Vatican is going to support the Archbishop in this case. They have to. The Catholic Church has a firm stance concerning abortion/birth control and they cannot state that in this case it is okay. It'll never happen.

The excommunication will stand. If I am wrong, then I will return to going to Mass every Sunday and receive Communion. Oh, wait. I can't receive communion. I'm divorced.....