Girl with dark long hair and fur coat.

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Filly said:
;)You know from trannies SFBND. If you get a chance could you go to the woman we named Funky Colored Shirt Girl and tell me what you think? If you get a chance? TIA I do not think that's a male, but my mom did.

Sorry to break up the thread all.
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I shall go look now and do my expert best ;).

And I agree that fur coat girl needs a name. Her eyes seem to be pleading for help. It kills me.
 
plait said:
Could this girl have thought that she was going up to Alcala's apt for a modelling shoot. So she went straight from the beauty parlour to his house. She did waxing, and this explains the redness around her mouth area.
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Or he smacked the ***** out of her or did other unmentionable things to her.
 
Sort of relevant to all the Alcala photos but the last article mentions that 21 people have been identified now. I get the privacy issues, but you would think that law enforcement could at least maybe just remove the ones who have been found from the public stack, you know? They could just blur out the faces as mark them as found. Sort of irritates me.
 
LetJusticePrevail said:
Wonder if the red above her lip is irritation from rough kissing (razor stubble).
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If you look at the larger photo you can see that whatever it is on her face goes all the way up her cheek and under her chin and there is also something on her face that caused that hair to stick to it. This photo is seriously just pitiful. :(
 
sfbaynancydrew said:
Sort of relevant to all the Alcala photos but the last article mentions that 21 people have been identified now. I get the privacy issues, but you would think that law enforcement could at least maybe just remove the ones who have been found from the public stack, you know? They could just blur out the faces as mark them as found. Sort of irritates me.
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It really annoys me too - its almost like they didnt want to ask for help. I posted an article about how the police department refused to release the photos in early 2010. They were released only when the press picked up on the story.

Its so frustrating that we have to continue to focus on all the photos when its clear that 21 of them are solved - they are wasting our time by letting us continue to attempt to identify the ones that they already have solved. :banghead:

Also, that whole privacy thing - if they are hiding behind that its just a lame excuse; if anything the act of actually releasing the photos would be more of a privacy issue than them giving us the heads up about who they have found.
 
Hair sticking to the face is seen at every single photo shoot. It is the norm rather than out of the ordinary.

I am going to post some links and am going to preface them by saying that they are my photos. I own the copyright on them. They are some of my photoshoots. They are unedited as Alcala's were since they didn't have photoshop back in those days.

Take these photos and blow them up. Look for hairs on their faces. Look for shadows. Make them really large and see if you can see "injuries" on them. Most of my work is done in studio, so I don't get a lot of shadows, but I will be doing more later when the weather gets better. Do any of these models look scared or, if you didn't know where they came from and if they were in Alcala's photos, what comments would you have about theory? I just randomly selected a few with some of these traits to see what you come up with just for comparison sake.

Let me also say that I feel that the girl with the long dark hair was victimized by Alcala. I don't know if she was murdered, but I do see from the look in her eyes and the red marks around her mouth that if nothing else, she was raped and forced to perform some rough sex with him.

Let me know what you come up with...:)

http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v5/p182530150-3.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v13/p519943740-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v10/p453400740-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v12/p307440281-2.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v16/p40141547-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v5/p426511506-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v22/p120043514-4.jpg
 
Norest, love your point. I think we do sort of project onto pictures and it's good have our critical thinking skills shaken a bit.

Seeing your pics though actually solidified that I think we're all seeing and feeling her fear because it's real. I majored in art in college and my favorite thing on the planet to draw was human faces. Fear is a subtle emotion that we subconsciously pick up on and interpret. Eyes slightly wider than normal, face wrinkled in certain places, pupils constricted...there are real chemical reactions going on inside of us that manifest into involuntary reactions. Staged fear in photos usually misses the mark for me. I can tell it's not real, even when it's very good.

Having said that though, you bring up a good point that it can be counterproductive to put too much stock into our own imaginations :).
 
norest4thewicked said:
Hair sticking to the face is seen at every single photo shoot. It is the norm rather than out of the ordinary.

I am going to post some links and am going to preface them by saying that they are my photos. I own the copyright on them. They are some of my photoshoots. They are unedited as Alcala's were since they didn't have photoshop back in those days.

Take these photos and blow them up. Look for hairs on their faces. Look for shadows. Make them really large and see if you can see "injuries" on them. Most of my work is done in studio, so I don't get a lot of shadows, but I will be doing more later when the weather gets better. Do any of these models look scared or, if you didn't know where they came from and if they were in Alcala's photos, what comments would you have about theory? I just randomly selected a few with some of these traits to see what you come up with just for comparison sake.

Let me also say that I feel that the girl with the long dark hair was victimized by Alcala. I don't know if she was murdered, but I do see from the look in her eyes and the red marks around her mouth that if nothing else, she was raped and forced to perform some rough sex with him.

Let me know what you come up with...:)

http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v5/p182530150-3.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v13/p519943740-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v10/p453400740-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v12/p307440281-2.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v16/p40141547-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v5/p426511506-4.jpg
http://envyart.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v22/p120043514-4.jpg
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I think i know what you mean, BUT Because I heard the testimony about what RA did to his known victims (ones he was convicted of) its hard to think that he let these people in pic go, especially of the pics taken indoors. If he did let them go he was problaby too stoned not to notice them leaving or they escaped maybe by some fluke. But I know that your pics are posed pics. Perhaps if i had just seen RA pics and not know who he is from his trial i would just see them as just posed pic.
Maybe he blackmailed some people and said I will show your nude pics if you tell on me.
 
sfbaynancydrew said:
Norest, love your point. I think we do sort of project onto pictures and it's good have our critical thinking skills shaken a bit.

Seeing your pics though actually solidified that I think we're all seeing and feeling her fear because it's real. I majored in art in college and my favorite thing on the planet to draw was human faces. Fear is a subtle emotion that we subconsciously pick up on and interpret. Eyes slightly wider than normal, face wrinkled in certain places, pupils constricted...there are real chemical reactions going on inside of us that manifest into involuntary reactions. Staged fear in photos usually misses the mark for me. I can tell it's not real, even when it's very good.

Having said that though, you bring up a good point that it can be counterproductive to put too much stock into our own imaginations :).
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I totally agree with you that the fear in her eyes is real. Working with models and having them portray emotion is extremely difficult to do for most models. But, even the ones who can do it can't make that deep down terrified look that this girl has. I posted my photos more to show that a hair on her face is nothing at all to use as a clue that she had something sticky on her face, but also to show that if you blow things up large enough, that you can see almost anything you want to in pixels.
 
plait said:
I think i know what you mean, BUT Because I heard the testimony about what RA did to his known victims (ones he was convicted of) its hard to think that he let these people in pic go, especially of the pics taken indoors. If he did let them go he was problaby too stoned not to notice them leaving or they escaped maybe by some fluke. But I know that your pics are posed pics. Perhaps if i had just seen RA pics and not know who he is from his trial i would just see them as just posed pic.
Maybe he blackmailed some people and said I will show your nude pics if you tell on me.
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Although...we know that many of the known living were
taken inside such as red haired girl in front of a green wall and the girl in the white dress.

I sure hope we find out some day!
 
plait said:
Could this girl have thought that she was going up to Alcala's apt for a modelling shoot. So she went straight from the beauty parlour to his house. She did waxing, and this explains the redness around her mouth area.
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Plait, look again. She wouldn't have waxed her nose and the side of her face.

She may have thought she was going to model, but IMO she got her mouth taped and she got smacked. Hard.

God Bless her if she was acting. I actually wish she was. That is a look of fear that I hope I never see on another human being.
 
Filly said:
Plait, look again. She wouldn't have waxed her nose and the side of her face.

She may have thought she was going to model, but IMO she got her mouth taped and she got smacked. Hard.

God Bless her if she was acting. I actually wish she was. That is a look of fear that I hope I never see on another human being.
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Wonder what the chances that the jail guards could ACCIDENTALLY release Alcala into the general population of the prison. Give him a taste of his own medicine. Cause I'm sure many of them have seen this pics.
If she's alive I'm sure that she is severly tramatized.
 
norest4thewicked said:
I totally agree with you that the fear in her eyes is real. Working with models and having them portray emotion is extremely difficult to do for most models. But, even the ones who can do it can't make that deep down terrified look that this girl has. I posted my photos more to show that a hair on her face is nothing at all to use as a clue that she had something sticky on her face, but also to show that if you blow things up large enough, that you can see almost anything you want to in pixels.
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How interesting!! Do you happen to have any photos of models that dont have any makeup on with the hair sticking to their face? A lot of the posted women were sweating and/or had a lot of makeup on which could make the hair stick to the face and our UID doesnt seem to be sweating or have make up.
 
punklove said:
How interesting!! Do you happen to have any photos of models that dont have any makeup on with the hair sticking to their face? A lot of the posted women were sweating and/or had a lot of makeup on which could make the hair stick to the face and our UID doesnt seem to be sweating or have make up.
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Haha...I don't think that I could find a photo of a model until they have come through makeup and hair. But...hair doesn't exactly have to be sticking to a persons face. If one hair is out of place and is in the line of the camera, it will appear to be sticking to the face when, actually, it's just laying there.

In fact, I have long hair and as I was typing this I just reached up to brush my face with my hand and I had at least 3 loose ones across my cheek. I have no makeup on. I realize that this doesn't really help the hypothesis, since you can't see it, but you'll just have to take my word for this one hair theory. :)
 
Lookie what I found!!!

Y'all S'ppose?

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I found the photo in the Washington Irving H.S. (NYC) 1970 yearbook. Her initials are WF.

She might not have as much cheekbone as the girl in the Alcala photo. But everything else looks spot-on. She even has the same demure facial expression.

Washington Irving HS is less than a mile from NYU, where Alcala was a film school student from 1968 to 1971.
 
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