CO Grand Junction - Human remains found in freezer - 12 Jan 2024 (Amanda Leariel Overstreet)

This is important. This confirms she was present in Colorado. Now whether she died in Colorado or Texas is another question, but I think this clears up the issue that she made it to Grand Junction alive (not already in the freezer) at some point in 2005. Then what?
I think she died in Colorado, in or at the home they were living in at the time. I cannot see anyone transporting a dead body (or cutting a body up en route) from Texas to Colorado.
 

It’s incredibly sad that no one knew she was there,” sheriff’s public information officer Wendy Likes told Grand Junction CBS affiliate KREX. “No one that we’re aware of knew she was missing. That no one took the time to find out where this child was or what happened to her, and that’s why we are taking the time we are taking to make sure that we answer all those questions.”

Citing neighbors, the outlet described the previous residents, a family, as having “seemingly taken off overnight, leaving most of their belongings behind.”

By accounts, the home appears to have been a complete mess.

“I would walk my dogs about once every other day, and just walking by the house, you just smelled mildew,” Jamison Perez, a local man who lived near the home since 1997, told Grand Junction ABC affiliate KJCT. “It would make you sick walking by.”

He described to KREX that he last saw the girl in 2005.

“Matter of fact, [we] noted that she was dressed very — almost like an old lady,” he told the outlet.
I wonder whether Wendy Likes has spoken to anyone in Amandas hometown? Doesn't seem to me Like ( (:)) much investigation has gone on at all.
 
Just a few corrections. :)



but in my notes I have:

Bradley got sick with covid & died July 2021 (covid related).

and another one:



per my notes:

Amanda's maternal grandmother is Nelda Ann Owings Overstreet [died in July, 2005]. Amanda disappeared in April of 2005.

It now appears that Amanda was, in fact, in Colorado in early 2005. Neighbors have known about the body found in the freezer for most of 2024, and were just waiting for the results to come back. Some neighbors had referenced "that little girl" as the possible dead body so she was SEEN in Colorado. So neighbors were aware of three children in that household.
Moo. The grandmother was likely too sick to have Amanda stay with her at that time.

Nelda's obit references 4 grand children. Nelda only had one child, Leann.
Moo. So, Leanne bore 5 children. We now know that Amanda was HER
child and was likely Child #1.
Moo. Did she lose custody of Child #2, child #3??

/Soooooo...... I think the biggie that I am waiting for is WHY weren't more family willing to help Amanda, AND willing to assist Nelda, in her very difficult times of need??

There appears to be a pretty large extended family in Texas.... gobs of Overstreets alone!! I am convinced many or most were aware of something bad happening. The guilt is going to HAVE to start spilling out........... moo.

 
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Obituaries are frequently deceiving. A dear friend's dentist was murdered by her husband, who then took the coward's way out. This was his obituary - as you read it, remember that this is a man who murdered his innocent wife in cold blood minutes before ending his own life: Memorial - Thad McDowell - Cedar Memorial

My best friend's mom died of COVID. She was very open about her belief that COVID was a left-wing hoax before contracting the disease herself. Her husband at the time of her death, who shared this view, wrote in her obituary that she died "after a valiant battle with cancer." This wasn't an outright lie - she did die after a valiant battle with cancer. It was so valiant, in fact, that her cancer was in remission when she passed away in the COVID ward from COVID.

So yeah. I read obits with an entire shaker of salt.
The details about he “enjoyed their life” with no mention of how she felt about it and he was a “wonderful…husband” are chilling. It appears that (my opinion only) delusional parents wished to erase his final act. An absolute slap in the face to her family and friends. Disgusting. Moo
 
It now appears that Amanda was, in fact, in Colorado in early 2005. Neighbors have known about the body found in the freezer for most of 2024, and were just waiting for the results to come back. Some neighbors had referenced "that little girl" as the possible dead body so she was SEEN in Colorado. So neighbors were aware of three children in that household.
Moo. The grandmother was likely too sick to have Amanda stay with her at that time.

Nelda's obit references 4 grand children. Nelda only had one child, Leann.
Moo. So, Leanne bore 5 children. We now know that Amanda was HER
child and was likely Child #1.
Moo. Did she lose custody of Child #2, child #3??

/Soooooo...... I think the biggie that I am waiting for is WHY weren't more family willing to help Amanda, AND willing to assist Nelda, in her very difficult times of need??

There appears to be a pretty large extended family in Texas.... gobs of Overstreets alone!! I am convinced many or most were aware of something bad happening. The guilt is going to HAVE to start spilling out........... moo.


I remember the names.

Also: I can’t blame the Grand Junction police, as I said, it is very easy to disappear a child during the move, but is Colorado going to follow the case now?
 
It now appears that Amanda was, in fact, in Colorado in early 2005. Neighbors have known about the body found in the freezer for most of 2024, and were just waiting for the results to come back. Some neighbors had referenced "that little girl" as the possible dead body so she was SEEN in Colorado. So neighbors were aware of three children in that household.
Moo. The grandmother was likely too sick to have Amanda stay with her at that time.

Nelda's obit references 4 grand children. Nelda only had one child, Leann.
Moo. So, Leanne bore 5 children. We now know that Amanda was HER
child and was likely Child #1.
Moo. Did she lose custody of Child #2, child #3??

/Soooooo...... I think the biggie that I am waiting for is WHY weren't more family willing to help Amanda, AND willing to assist Nelda, in her very difficult times of need??

There appears to be a pretty large extended family in Texas.... gobs of Overstreets alone!! I am convinced many or most were aware of something bad happening. The guilt is going to HAVE to start spilling out........... moo.


It seems that there is fear mixed with guilt.

Legally: Nelda Overstreet is Amanda’s mother. Leanne lost the rights, signed them away, or something else. Amanda does not legally belong to CO. Is there CPS involved? Should it be? Legally, it looks as if a mother is sending a daughter to her sister to CO and she disappears. The sister has no seniority in custody. That big family, did they inform the police?
 
It now appears that Amanda was, in fact, in Colorado in early 2005. Neighbors have known about the body found in the freezer for most of 2024, and were just waiting for the results to come back. Some neighbors had referenced "that little girl" as the possible dead body so she was SEEN in Colorado. So neighbors were aware of three children in that household.
Moo. The grandmother was likely too sick to have Amanda stay with her at that time.

Nelda's obit references 4 grand children. Nelda only had one child, Leann.
Moo. So, Leanne bore 5 children. We now know that Amanda was HER
child and was likely Child #1.
Moo. Did she lose custody of Child #2, child #3??

/Soooooo...... I think the biggie that I am waiting for is WHY weren't more family willing to help Amanda, AND willing to assist Nelda, in her very difficult times of need??

There appears to be a pretty large extended family in Texas.... gobs of Overstreets alone!! I am convinced many or most were aware of something bad happening. The guilt is going to HAVE to start spilling out........... moo.

This is all MOO as the source is from the original FB group.

The grandchildren mentioned in the obit M, A and M are all Leannes children and all but A were removed from her care. I have found birth records for M and the father was the second husband (Giacin). I have not found a birth record for the female M, but her name may have changed if removed at birth (not sure how it works in the USA in respect to naming new borns removed from birth parents). A would appear to be the child with Brad?

From my understanding, Neldas mother and sister were also ill at the same time. Also interesting, I found a divorce record for Nelda dated 15 March 2000. Does this tie in with the child proceedings posted upthread?
 

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This is all MOO as the source is from the original FB group.

The grandchildren mentioned in the obit M, A and M are all Leannes children and all but A were removed from her care. I have found birth records for M and the father was the second husband (Giacin). I have not found a birth record for the female M, but her name may have changed if removed at birth (not sure how it works in the USA in respect to naming new borns removed from birth parents). A would appear to be the child with Brad?

From my understanding, Neldas mother and sister were also ill at the same time. Also interesting, I found a divorce record for Nelda dated 15 March 2000. Does this tie in with the child proceedings posted upthread?

I also, do not understand the divorce record for Nelda... her obit mentions her friend and husband, J.
Since my info source is also from the original FB group which was trying to find Amanda in 2017, all is moo.... but supposedly Amanda's mother L also absconded the funds supporting her own father, J which left J in dire straits, having to live with more distant relatives.
 
I also, do not understand the divorce record for Nelda... her obit mentions her friend and husband, J.
Since my info source is also from the original FB group which was trying to find Amanda in 2017, all is moo.... but supposedly Amanda's mother L also absconded the funds supporting her own father, J which left J in dire straits, having to live with more distant relatives.
Thats what made me wonder if it ( the divorce) was related to the adoption proceedings.
 
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Source : this Italian e-newspaper :

This e-news also contains other information and a pasted image from fb which I do not copy here on purpose but gives a lot of potential answers to questions we have..

ETA a translation of a part of it, talking about negligence and abuse.

She was adopted by her grandmother Nelda at the age of three. Amanda's biological mother, L.I., lost custody due to neglect and abuse. But after the death of her grandmother, who was diagnosed with lung cancer, she was forced to live with Leanne, her husband and their daughter Elsie, moving to Grand Junction. Since then, no one has seen or heard from her. The investigations continue.
 

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Still a tad confusing, if you ask me. I thought we have learned that the people who bought the horders house "as is", were the ones that were doing the cleaning, and advertising for people to just take free stuff, like the freezer.

So, does this indicate there is a third owner who bought from the people who did the reno?? If that is the case, I wonder if they knew about the state of the original horders house and the surprise in the freezer!! Neighbors knew, and were waiting for results back from forensics.... but how about new owners??

The Mesa County Sheriff’s Office would like to emphasize that the home where the Pinyon Avenue Homicide investigation centered is now under new ownership, completely unrelated to the previous case

A Mesa County Sheriff’s Office statement said that the house was purchased, fully remodeled, and sold to the current owner. The Mesa County Sheriff’s Office urges people to respect the privacy of the current owner and their neighbors and avoid driving by the home or taking photos.
 
Still a tad confusing, if you ask me. I thought we have learned that the people who bought the horders house "as is", were the ones that were doing the cleaning, and advertising for people to just take free stuff, like the freezer.

So, does this indicate there is a third owner who bought from the people who did the reno?? If that is the case, I wonder if they knew about the state of the original horders house and the surprise in the freezer!! Neighbors knew, and were waiting for results back from forensics.... but how about new owners??

The Mesa County Sheriff’s Office would like to emphasize that the home where the Pinyon Avenue Homicide investigation centered is now under new ownership, completely unrelated to the previous case

A Mesa County Sheriff’s Office statement said that the house was purchased, fully remodeled, and sold to the current owner. The Mesa County Sheriff’s Office urges people to respect the privacy of the current owner and their neighbors and avoid driving by the home or taking photos.
Check out Rachel's Facebook page. She has time of information and screenshot of messages where she got the info.
 
Gosh, this is such an ugly story, I can’t believe that the state of Colorado will leave it as it is. Really all adults except for GM didn’t seem to care…the FB, and the memory was kept by the kids who remembered their classmate. How are these former kids, who are now adults and perhaps, have own kids, going to cope with the sad story if nothing is done about the perpetrator?
 
Check out Rachel's Facebook page. She has time of information and screenshot of messages where she got the info.
And what will LE do ?? I feel certain they would have done nothing if so much publicity was not surrounding this case.

The key will be.... Can Leann put all the blame on her husband.
 
And what will LE do ?? I feel certain they would have done nothing if so much publicity was not surrounding this case.

The key will be.... Can Leann put all the blame on her husband.

I think, not, because legally Brad was no one to Amanda. All connection with TX went through Leanne. Even if she says that Brad took Amanda away and killed, it means that Brad abducted Amanda and Leanne, at best, did not report it, and at worst, facilitated it.

1) Cross-checking information would help. There will be different witnesses and accounts in TX and in Colorado.

2) Following the money. When Nelda died, who got her inheritance? Amanda “ran away”. So, Amanda was alive, and legally, another daughter to Nelda. With full rights. Any evidence to the contrary would raise questions. Brad was just “some dude”, both to Amanda and to Nelda. All connections, all inheritance went through Leanne, not Brad. Oh, and check who got Amanda’s SSI. Because she “ran away”.

3) I suppose some laws were bent when Amanda was taken to CO without notifying CPS. Leanne was not legally Amanda’s mother. Brad was no one to Amanda. One of her legal sister’s husbands, to think of. From Leanne’s side, to take A. to Colorado still is a chargeable offense. And saying “no one could take Amanda in” won’t help because legally, then Amanda should have become the ward of the state. Nelda didn’t notify the state? Well, Nelda was sick and maybe unable to think reasonably. It does not allow Leanne to break the law.

4) JMO - Leanne has no money and is dependent on meds and free living. It is easy to trade horses because as I hope there are none on her side. And the state of Colorado morally should not be invested in helping her. She shamed it. MOO.
 
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I think, not, because legally Brad was no one to Amanda. All connection with TX went through Leanne. Even if she says that Brad took Amanda away and killed, it means that Brad abducted Amanda and Leanne, at best, did not report it, and at worst, facilitated it. ...

Not trying to defend her because I think without more public information it's impossible to say what or how much she might have known, but Brad could absolutely have told Leanne that he and Amanda fought about something and she left and didn't come back, or he took her to meet friends at a mall/movie theater/whatever and she never came back, etc. The friends didn't have any plans to meet her and don't know where she is? Then Brad says she lied and must have planned to run off.

Of course, that could also go the other way and Leanne could have done it and Brad might never have known. Or they could have been in it together. Or one of them could have coerced the other into helping and then held it over their head to ensure their silence. We just don't know enough about Amanda's life or Leanne and Brad at this point (yet) to have a good idea of what happened.

Hopefully, the police are investigating this, instead of shrugging and moving on because it was 19 years ago and no one reported her missing and one potential suspect is dead and the other is old and infirm. Amanda deserves for people to know her story. At least now they know she existed and hopefully her remains can be respectfully given a proper burial, with her name attached.
 
Not trying to defend her because I think without more public information it's impossible to say what or how much she might have known, but Brad could absolutely have told Leanne that he and Amanda fought about something and she left and didn't come back, or he took her to meet friends at a mall/movie theater/whatever and she never came back, etc. The friends didn't have any plans to meet her and don't know where she is? Then Brad says she lied and must have planned to run off.

Of course, that could also go the other way and Leanne could have done it and Brad might never have known. Or they could have been in it together. Or one of them could have coerced the other into helping and then held it over their head to ensure their silence. We just don't know enough about Amanda's life or Leanne and Brad at this point (yet) to have a good idea of what happened.

Hopefully, the police are investigating this, instead of shrugging and moving on because it was 19 years ago and no one reported her missing and one potential suspect is dead and the other is old and infirm. Amanda deserves for people to know her story. At least now they know she existed and hopefully her remains can be respectfully given a proper burial, with her name attached.
OK, if any kid in your custody runs away, not only your own, what do you do? Immediately call the police. Was it done or reported?

If Leanne believed that Amanda had run away and lived somewhere, then Nelda's inheritance should have been treated accordingly, right? I suspect this is where the glitch would be.
 

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