Γλυκά Νερά: «Γίνονται έρευνες σε πολλά μέτωπα, υπάρχουν στοιχεία», λέει ο σύζυγος της Καρολάιν
The article itself doesn't say much, but in the video, a police reporter is talking about what's been puzzling the authorities, the fact that there doesn't appear to be any CCTV footage or cellphone activity of the robbers, and that forensic evidence collected from the house is "minimal". He says that there could be important developments and/or twists in the case in the days to come. I'll post a more detailed translation later.
He was picked up at the border trying to cross with a fake passport. And, yes, he's a known criminal. His DNA was reportedly found at the scene of a prior robbery, in the same region, which had a similar modus operandi.What made police zone in so quickly on “The Georgian”? Is he a known criminal? If so why was he wandering the streets?
Welcome to the reality of Greece's treatment of criminals!What made police zone in so quickly on “The Georgian”? Is he a known criminal? If so why was he wandering the streets?
Twists... Hmm, Interesting... Thanks for all the info! You are our Greek correspondentΓλυκά Νερά: «Γίνονται έρευνες σε πολλά μέτωπα, υπάρχουν στοιχεία», λέει ο σύζυγος της Καρολάιν
The article itself doesn't say much, but in the video, a police reporter is talking about what's been puzzling the authorities, the fact that there doesn't appear to be any CCTV footage or cellphone activity of the robbers, and that forensic evidence collected from the house is "minimal". He says that there could be important developments and/or twists in the case in the days to come. I'll post a more detailed translation later.
I don't know if @Patrick Jane agrees, but, to me, it sounded like this should be expected, not that this was just a small possibility. It could, of course, just be me and my general skepticism towards the case (and by that I don't mean that I don't believe the original story, just that it wouldn't surprise me if there was more to it).Twists... Hmm, Interesting... Thanks for all the info! You are our Greek correspondent
The reward is your answer haha JMOWhat made police zone in so quickly on “The Georgian”? Is he a known criminal? If so why was he wandering the streets?
Very intriguing.Γλυκά Νερά: «Γίνονται έρευνες σε πολλά μέτωπα, υπάρχουν στοιχεία», λέει ο σύζυγος της Καρολάιν
The article itself doesn't say much, but in the video, a police reporter is talking about what's been puzzling the authorities, the fact that there doesn't appear to be any CCTV footage or cellphone activity of the robbers, and that forensic evidence collected from the house is "minimal". He says that there could be important developments and/or twists in the case in the days to come. I'll post a more detailed translation later.
I don't know if @Patrick Jane agrees, but, to me, it sounded like this should be expected, not that this was just a small possibility. It could, of course, just be me and my general skepticism towards the case (and by that I don't mean that I don't believe the original story, just that it wouldn't surprise me if there was more to it).
Wow, this is getting worse by the day.Γλυκά Νερά: «Γίνονται έρευνες σε πολλά μέτωπα, υπάρχουν στοιχεία», λέει ο σύζυγος της Καρολάιν
So, first of all, a quick transcript of the article:
On to the police reporter, he states:
- B says that he completely trusts the police, and is sure that they have evidence, as well as information, that is important to not be leaked to the public.
- The police hasn't disclosed if B went indeed to the Police HQ for identification purposes, regarding the Georgian who was arrested.
- DNA and prints that have been collected are deemed "usable", however they have not matched anyone in the system yet.
He then adds that the police are struggling to find answers to the following questions:
- That there could be important developments and/or twists in the case the following days.
- That, in spite of the efforts of the authorities, there doesn't appear to be neither CCTV footage of the robbers approaching/ entering the house, nor cellphone activity or other evidence that could lead to the identification of the three robbers.
- That the amount of forensic evidence collected from the house is minimal.
- That the police are still searching for clues and possible connections among other criminal cases.
- That there is a statement from a private citizen that adds another dimension to the tragic incident- says they'll elaborate more on that as the case progresses.
- Why did the perps feel the need to suffocate Caroline, by a manner that would require them to apply force to her face for approximately 7-8 minutes, while she would probably lose consciousness and be incapacitated after only 1-2 minutes. There's even a reference to George Floyd and how Chauvin killed him by applying force to his neck for more than 8 minutes. Police reporter points out that, according to descriptions (doesn't say whose), she was fighting back and was trying to defend her baby and that's what lead the perps restrain her in such a violent way. However, there were no defensive wounds/ scratches/evidence of a fight found on her body.
- Why did the perps use ropes and tapes to tie up B in the manner that has been described (head covered in tape, fetal position, with his hands IN FRONT, rather than behind his back), whereas they tied up Caroline's hands behind her back, using only her clothes. Points out that, during robberies, usually the entire household is tied up to chairs, with their hands behind their backs.
- Why did the perps bother to remove the memory cards from the cameras, which is more complex, compared to just removing the devices themselves and taking them along.
- Caroline's TOD has yet to be determined.
- Why didn't the perps cut off the electricity and the phone lines.
- Why did they leave B's working cellphone behind.
After listening to the police reporter for the second time (for translation purposes) much more carefully than the first, I can say that his words and his manner of speaking lead me to think that there's definitely something more. I'm trying to picture the crime unfold the way we're told, and I just can't. Some things make no sense. Excessive use of tape and ropes on B, while Caroline, the victim that supposedly puts up more fight, is only tied with clothes. Robbers investing time in turning B into a mummy, removing memory cards from cameras, hanging the dog, suffocating a woman for 7-8 straight minutes, but still being sloppy, tying B's hand to the front, leaving his phone within his reach, not cutting off power/communication, and staying inside way longer than they should have. I don't know what are we supposed to believe anymore. I still wish we're proven wrong.
After listening to the police reporter for the second time (for translation purposes) much more carefully than the first, I can say that his words and his manner of speaking lead me to think that there's definitely something more. I'm trying to picture the crime unfold the way we're told, and I just can't. Some things make no sense. Excessive use of tape and ropes on B, while Caroline, the victim that supposedly puts up more fight, is only tied with clothes. Robbers investing time in turning B into a mummy, removing memory cards from cameras, hanging the dog, suffocating a woman for 7-8 straight minutes, but still being sloppy, tying B's hands to the front, leaving his phone within his reach, not cutting off power/communication, and staying inside way longer than they should have. I don't know what are we supposed to believe anymore. I still wish we're proven wrong.
After listening to the police reporter for the second time (for translation purposes) much more carefully than the first, I can say that his words and his manner of speaking lead me to think that there's definitely something more. I'm trying to picture the crime unfold the way we're told, and I just can't. Some things make no sense. Excessive use of tape and ropes on B, while Caroline, the victim that supposedly puts up more fight, is only tied with clothes. Robbers investing time in turning B into a mummy, removing memory cards from cameras, hanging the dog, suffocating a woman for 7-8 straight minutes, but still being sloppy, tying B's hands to the front, leaving his phone within his reach, not cutting off power/communication, and staying inside way longer than they should have. I don't know what are we supposed to believe anymore. I still wish we're proven wrong.
Thanks to both Caylee and Patrick for your translation work, you’re both doing a fantastic job!!
I was just starting to think this probably was just a horrible robbery but now I’m suspicious all over again!
I definitely think there’s something wrong with B’s version of events, I’m wondering if he really passed out for 30 minutes…..maybe he wasn’t restrained like that until near the end? It would make more sense if they were smothering her while demanding the money from him.
I’m also wondering how much of a fight Caroline could still have been putting up once her hands had been tied behind her back? I’m sure she did anything she could to protect her babe to start with, but it sounds like they had her under control before she was suffocated.
Are these cameras with the memory cards removed their security cameras? I assume so. So they took the memory cards but not the cameras? Or the other way around?
According to the reporter, they took the memory cards. And he's saying it's more difficult to just remove the memory card. So he's asking, "why would they go to the trouble to do that?"