Hamilton PD: "One Set of Human Remains"

[musicaljoke]

Question regarding the remains that have been found: are they as yet unidentified, or unidentifiable?

I haven't seen the term "unidentifiable" used other than on this thread heading, so I expect it was just a slip of the fingers.

BTW, is there any precedent for a psychopathic murder to work with a team?

 

[ArianeEmory]

I haven't seen the term "unidentifiable" used other than on this thread heading, so I expect it was just a slip of the fingers.

BTW, is there any precedent for a psychopathic murder to work with a team?

I don't necessarily agree that this is something we can point to and say "psychopath/serial killer"--groups of people kill other people all the time (see: gangs). But for the sake of people who find the whole thing implausible due to the idea that DM *must* be a lone serial killer if he is anything at all:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/partners/index.html

 

[marlywings]

Question regarding the remains that have been found: are they as yet unidentified, or unidentifiable?

Thread title has now been changed to "unidentified"

 

[winkipinki]

I recently watched the movie Hostel. I am really hoping that there are no similarities between the movie and this unfolding story. Something about this makes me fear it is possible.

 

[bessie]

Question regarding the remains that have been found: are they as yet unidentified, or unidentifiable?

The last I heard, they were unidentifiable, as opposed to unidentified as a particular person or thing.

The intent was to avoid the suggestion that human remains were awaiting identification.

I haven't seen the term "unidentifiable" used other than on this thread heading, so I expect it was just a slip of the fingers.

Hardly, musicaljoke.

Here ya go. Look it up.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us
http://www.merriam-webster.com/

The CBC reported that authorities have found more remains but it’s not clear if they are human or animals. http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/20/tim-bosma-case-remains-found-on-dellen-millards-farm

Officials tell the CBC they have found either human or animal remains on the same property where the charred body of Ancaster man Tim Bosma was located.
http://www.news1130.com/2013/05/20/more-remains-found-on-farm-that-belonged-to-millard-cbc/

 

[JayFriend]

I recently watched the movie Hostel. I am really hoping that there are no similarities between the movie and this unfolding story. Something about this makes me fear it is possible.

I saw that movie mentioned in an earlier thread, so I watched it. I found very few similarities to this case. What a waste of time! It's even been sequelized, so you know it's garbage. :floorlaugh:

 

[PwrdByWoody]

My attempts to answer some questions within this sub forum

1. Neighbour taking photos of the equipment; I have lived in rural areas and if someone leaves heavy equipment in an area for too long it often goes misssing. Perhaps the photos were taken with the intention of informing others to come and get the unattended items. $$$$

2. Camaro forum showing Black SUV, that is a Murano. The small antenna above the windshield and rims are distinct to the Murano. The Infiniti FX35 is a higher scale however the rear windows are different.

3. Tents on the property, the first tent set up is the command post for police activity. Crime scenes are controlled with planned foot paths in/out of the scene. The 1st tent also has port-a-potties nearby, these would not be placed near evidence. As officers arrive they check into command post, then escorted via an approved path to the 2nd tent, hence the parking of vehicles near the 1st tent as well.

 

[axe2grind]

This looks almost identical other than the colour. It's a "Vermeer BC1400XL"

Hey, that looks exactly like it. (Not quite DMs trailer in the background there)

and here's a picture of a Nissan Murano that does indeed look like the SUV in the Waterloo Hangar. I was looking for a picture showing the same colour, same side with same rims and chrome door handles... this one doesn't have the roof rack, but the Murano roof rack has the same double attachment near the back as the one in the hangar picture...this is close enough to give you an idea.

http://www.zastavki.com/pictures/640x480/2012/Auto_Nissan_Nissan_Murano_025702_29.jpg

 

[Honey_West]

Has this been posted yet?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/21/unknown-remains-found-on-suspect-dellen-millards-farm-where-tim-bosmas-body-discovered-report/

"But forensic investigators have not determined yet if the remains found on Dellen Millard’s farm in North Dumfries, Ont. are human or animal, the CBC reports.

In an email to the National Post, Hamilton police said they could not confirm the report.

“Please be advised that information [second remains] did not come from [lead investigator] Det-Sgt Matt Kavanagh. The investigation continues and at this point there is no confirmation that other remains have been located,” Const. Debbie McGreal-Dinning said."

 

[Deal]

The last I heard, they were unidentifiable, as opposed to unidentified as a particular person or thing.

The intent was to avoid the suggestion that human remains were awaiting identification.


Hardly, musicaljoke.

Here ya go. Look it up.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us
http://www.merriam-webster.com/

Well there is a difference in meaning between unidentifiable and unidentified. The impression I have gotten from MSM is we are talking about unidentified at this point. It takes a whole lot of failed DNA testing to get to the conclusion that what they have is unidentifiable and that will take a considerable amount of time.

I would not be surprised if they find nothing. The uglier a picture they paint of DM in the media the more likely they will get otherwise closed mouthed friends to talk.

 

[flipflop]

HAMILTON, Ont.— Police in southern Ontario are denying a published report that says other remains have been found in connection with the slaying of a Hamilton, Ont., man.

CBC has reported that in addition to Tim Bosma's remains, unknown remains were found on a farm belonging to the accused, Dellen Millard.

It cited sources as saying police were working to determine if they are human or animal.

But Staff Sgt. Matt Kavanagh says no other remains have been found anywhere and the report needs to be "cleared up."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/21/dellen-millard-farm-other-remains_n_3314676.html

 

[Carli]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/21/police-deny-report-of-other-remains-found-on-bosma-murder-suspects-farm/

CBC has reported that in addition to Tim Bosma’s remains, unknown remains were found on a farm belonging to the accused, Dellen Millard.

It cited sources as saying police were working to determine if they are human or animal.

But Staff Sgt. Matt Kavanagh says no other remains have been found anywhere and the report needs to be “cleared up.”

CBC could not immediately be reached for comment.

 

[MamaDukes]

Now the NP is reporting that there were NOT other remains found on the farm. MSM has to stop the race, and report facts and not rumours. Pretty hellish story to have circulating when there's a missing girl. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...-remains-found-on-bosma-murder-suspects-farm/

 

[matou]

HAMILTON, Ont.— Police in southern Ontario are denying a published report that says other remains have been found in connection with the slaying of a Hamilton, Ont., man.

CBC has reported that in addition to Tim Bosma's remains, unknown remains were found on a farm belonging to the accused, Dellen Millard.

It cited sources as saying police were working to determine if they are human or animal.

But Staff Sgt. Matt Kavanagh says no other remains have been found anywhere and the report needs to be "cleared up."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/21/dellen-millard-farm-other-remains_n_3314676.html

I'm really wondering about this. I know that CBC changed the title of their story from remains found on Millard's farm to Remains found near Millard's farm. Weren't sifters involved and a new tent? Weird.

 

[Honey_West]

I found that this morning before WS went down and posted it. Now i am totally confused. But, yes, the new tent though...bizarre.

 

[flipflop]

What news source first posted this info about more remains......me thinkin they're in big do-do!!!!!!

I wonder if they found remains and some source prematurely leaked this to the media...and they ended up being pigs

However, there must be something going on at the farm, as they stated last week that they would wrap up by Saturday at the farm location....it is now tuesday

 

[MamaDukes]

What news source first posted this info about more remains......me thinkin they're in big do-do!!!!!!

story still up

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/05/19/toronto-millard-remains-discovered.html

 

[Honey_West]

Why would LE take days to correct the wrong info?? Looks like some back tracking could be going on JMO

 

[Storme]

story still up

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/05/19/toronto-millard-remains-discovered.html

MK, according to the link below as well as many others posted here in the last page or two, has emphatically denied that any further remains have been found. Now, I have read reports that the MSM is getting some info from an unnamed police source, and this may be the issue and the HPS is not happy about this being leaked. Nonetheless, he's refuted it pretty directly IMO. I remember a few of us asking for additional sources reporting the same thing (that additional remains have been found, unknown if human or animal) but none of us could find anything outside of CBC. Not on the HPS site or any MSM site. So, now to respond KophyBeenz, I do hope you stick around as there are many of us who are indeed here for the right reasons and you are a welcome addition!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/speculation-ontario-murder-case-unfair-accused-says-lawyer-164448274.html

 

[Storme]

Why would LE take days to correct the wrong info?? Looks like some back tracking could be going on JMO

IMO that is quite possible if this the story was from an unknown and unauthorized-to-speak-to-media police source.