GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #5

[PeterTosh]

fantastic helpful summary, PT.

Check on it all making sense with the arson and the tip to mechanic and the dumping. I assume the police got a tip on the burned doors.

As you said, nothing is open at night in Hana. It's a ghost village. Sex unlikely. Drugs maybe, for Taylor? Disposal sites in area so maybe. Nala dropped in Nahiku most probably. (Scratch my other theory). Driving there for no particular reason that night? Doubtful. He had things to do. I will just mention that it doesn't get much more isolated than Kaupo, if he wanted to go where searching was unlikely. But did he have time for the circle loop?

The question with the ocean is are the prevailing currents going to bring back what you threw in, or take it away? Bringing it back is very bad. And then what is smelling so rotten up by the highway on Wednesday? That is a real new clue. It's not something in the ocean, and at least two people driving by got a whiff that made them stop. These are not people beating the jungle; they are driving the main road.

Can you tell where the spot with guardrail and a need to rappel down would be? At the bridge area or on the higher parts of the valley? Stream side? (That is the Honomanu side, no?). Google Earth does give elevation, but I haven't checked there yet.

re the moon, it was less than a week from full, but does anyone know if it was a rainy night? I'm guessing not too rainy because the Hana witness was standing outside away from the house and also did not mention rain.

Again why do people go to Hana. Maybe for drugs because its such an isolated place its easier to fly under the radar for distribution. For sex that is if you have a pal. Im not saying there are brothels. For the sunrise because you lose half the day if you leave late. And I meant to put after that (During the day) Church or Court as folks do go down for those things as well. Now as far as where JT saw Steven is still a mystery to us at WS. We know her house is on the ocean side of the road as was stated in testimony. As to what direction he was traveling we dont know however I am sure the jury does. Was he on the Hana Bay road or the Hana Hwy? We dont know. The Hana Bay road takes you down to the water or up to the right turn by the tennis courts back to the Hwy and has a circle around left turn dirt road that takes you along the ocean side back up to the landfill and Wainapanapa. The Hwy takes you past the Police and Fire Station which he came close to in any case hence the 20 mph.

This Hana sighting brings so much into question and hopefully we have an answer in the days to come.

 

[Nikki Lisette]

I think SC's responses to a few questions are clues to where Charli and the baby are.

When he asked how the search for Charli was progressing and Adam said they were looking in hard to reach places, SC responded, "what do you mean?"

When erroneously told by Kyle Knight that Charli's body had been found, SC said, "how?".

When asked by Mileka Lincoln in the interview if he wanted to get a message out to the public he said, "I just want Charli to be found." When asked by Mileka a few minutes later if he thought Charli would be found, he replied, "I f--king hope so."

Hard to reach place. Can be found but cleverly hidden. I rule out the sea because the law of physics tells me that the ocean tends to wash things ashore. Whereabouts on Sunday night have begun to paint a picture and we know he was pressed for time. We have odors at the drag spot on Hana Hwy and Paraquats off of Hana Hwy. We have a spotting of him between 21:00-23:00 hrs on Hana Hwy.

 

[PeterTosh]

I think SC's responses to a few questions are clues to where Charli and the baby are.

When he asked how the search for Charli was progressing and Adam said they were looking in hard to reach places, SC responded, "what do you mean?"

When erroneously told by Kyle Knight that Charli's body had been found, SC said, "how?".

When asked by Mileka Lincoln in the interview if he wanted to get a message out to the public he said, "I just want Charli to be found." When asked by Mileka a few minutes later if he thought Charli would be found, he replied, "I f--king hope so."

Hard to reach place. Can be found but cleverly hidden. I rule out the sea because the law of physics tells me that the ocean tends to wash things ashore. Whereabouts on Sunday night have begun to paint a picture and we know he was pressed for time. We have odors at the drag spot on Hana Hwy and Paraquats off of Hana Hwy. We have a spotting of him between 21:00-23:00 hrs on Hana Hwy.

Perhaps the grave was already prepared. Interesting to hear what his cousin will say as she went down there with 2/1 I believe

 

[MakaniKitty]

How I wish he'd just confess and tell where the remains are for the family's sake. I feel so sad for what they have had to endure, I can't even imagine. I don't know how he can live with what he's done, but I guess that's the sociopathic personality. I didn't for one second buy into his pretense of being shocked by the grisly evidence shown in court; he's acting the part for the jury, a master manipulator.

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[puakenikeni]

I think SC's responses to a few questions are clues to where Charli and the baby are.

When he asked how the search for Charli was progressing and Adam said they were looking in hard to reach places, SC responded, "what do you mean?"

When erroneously told by Kyle Knight that Charli's body had been found, SC said, "how?".

When asked by Mileka Lincoln in the interview if he wanted to get a message out to the public he said, "I just want Charli to be found." When asked by Mileka a few minutes later if he thought Charli would be found, he replied, "I f--king hope so."

Hard to reach place. Can be found but cleverly hidden. I rule out the sea because the law of physics tells me that the ocean tends to wash things ashore. Whereabouts on Sunday night have begun to paint a picture and we know he was pressed for time. We have odors at the drag spot on Hana Hwy and Paraquats off of Hana Hwy. We have a spotting of him between 21:00-23:00 hrs on Hana Hwy.

this is great. So glad you put together all these resonating odd utterances.

I remember also he said on a Facebook, public posts (not friends) that he would consider helping if Adam would give back his stereo. It was weird like he felt like his supposed wrong of losing possession of his stereo somehow equated with the wring done to the family.

I agree. He apparently thinks it was very difficult but not impossible to find.

PS One small thing: the drag marks was a different spot Hana side of Keanae and the road to Wailua Valley, and no smell was noted there. Kyle noted the smell at Nua'ailua stream valley by a guardrail, but no drag marks. You might be confused because there was talk of the rail and rappelling with both spots.

 

[julieonmaui]

http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/623275/

 

[Nikki Lisette]

Ok good to know, Pua. I thought the rappel location and drag marks by the guardrail were one in the same. But reading Kyle Knight's testimony again helped clear (some) of that up.

I went back to the early February 2014 articles to reread the comments because I remember some of them being pretty unique. I was disappointed to find that they're all gone. Bummer.

 

[Kapua]

Woman was ‘scared’ after seeing Capobianco in Hana
http://www.mauinews.com/page/conten...-scared--after-seeing-Capobianco-in-Hana.html

"I am afraid," she said. "A girl is missing. I saw him in Hana. He's telling the whole world another story. He lives by me, and I worked with him. You don't think I'm scared?"
Testifying for a second day Friday in Capobianco's 2nd Circuit Court murder trial, Taylor said she was certain it was Capobianco she saw.

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During cross-examination Friday, defense attorney Jon Apo asked Taylor how she could see who was driving the 4Runner, which she said was going toward Hana in the lane farthest away from where she was standing.
Taylor said that she had been approaching others at the gathering and was in a part of the yard close to the road. She said it was a bright, clear night. A streetlight from a cul-de-sac behind the two-story house, as well as lights shining from the house, lit the area, Taylor said.
"That streetlight is very bright," she said. "It illuminates a lot of things. It illuminates her yard."
As the 4Runner approached that night, Taylor said she could see the driver from both the front windshield and the side window and recognized Capobianco.
She knew him because he worked at Mana Foods in Paia, where she had worked from 2009-2013.
Taylor said she was about to shout out to him, but "I got a bad feeling."
"Why I did not do the shoutout is I saw the look on his face, and there is an aura people give off," she said. "I've never seen him look like that. I've never seen anyone look like that.

"I was going to do the usual shoutout until I saw his face and read that energy. Something came over me to stop."


Mahalo to Lila Fujimoto and Maui News!

 

[Kapua]

He was going TOWARD Hana when Jennifer Taylor saw him. From the other article in Maui Now, we know that her friend's mother's house was on the makai side of the highway near the Hana fire station, so the driver's side of the vehicle is definitely in her line of sight. Jennifer seems dead certain that it was him, and also gave a good description of the vehicle he was in, unlike the previous witness who doesn't know what a 49ers sticker looks like.

 

[Kapua]

I did the Google Map calculations again using more exact addresses: 225 Kalipo Place, and the Hana Fire station.

I got 1 hour 34 minutes from SC's house to the Hana fire station without traffic. Starting at 8:30, he could potentially be in Hana by 10:04.

Charli's last phone ping was 10:56.

I also calculated Hana fire station to Nua'ailua - 46 minutes without traffic. If he turned around right after JT saw him, he could have made Paraquats by 10:51.

But... if he turned around right away, JT would have seen him going back the other direction, unless she went inside the house after she saw him. He was going toward Hana when she saw him.

And for reference 225 Kalipo Place to Nua'ailua (Paraquats) is 49 min without traffic.

I'm thinking JT's time frame is slightly off and it was actually between 11:30 and midnight when she saw him. He could make it from Nua'ailua to Hana in 46 minutes, so 11:43. This makes infinitely more sense to me.

JMHO. :cow:

 

[Nikki Lisette]

All of the witnesses seem to have a 2 hr window for when they last saw him except fot Cass K. I wonder if that's Rivera's doing and he's planning to allow the phone companies to narrow down those blocks of time?

 

[PeterTosh]

But... if he turned around right away, JT would have seen him going back the other direction, unless she went inside the house after she saw him. He was going toward Hana when she saw him.

Not so. Bear left towards Hana bay and you can take an ocean road left again albeit dirt back up to the landfill and Wainapanapa State Park. Uakea St. to Waikoloa Rd

Hard to tell by Google Earth because the road goes under the canopy of trees where it crosses the dry river bed.

 

[MakaniKitty]

All of the witnesses seem to have a 2 hr window for when they last saw him except fot Cass K. I wonder if that's Rivera's doing and he's planning to allow the phone companies to narrow down those blocks of time?

From what I understand, phone companies keep records of all of your text messages, including images you've sent/received, and they can pinpoint exactly where you have been. These records usually aren't released for privacy reasons...unless involved in criminal activities. Let's hope the phone companies can shed some light.

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[Kapua]

Not so. Bear left towards Hana bay and you can take an ocean road left again albeit dirt back up to the landfill and Wainapanapa State Park. Uakea St. to Waikoloa Rd

Hard to tell by Google Earth because the road goes under the canopy of trees where it crosses the dry river bed.

Thanks, PT, it's been a few years since I've been to Hana, and the last time my friend and I made the loop back to Haiku, stopping at the Kaupo store and the Ulupalakua Ranch.

I still vote for him going to Nua'ailua first, and then Hana. It just seems too crazy rushed the other way 'round. Taylor said she met him between midnight and 2. We don't know what he did in Hana, but if it took 15-20 minutes, he could have made it back to Haiku by 1:35 or so to meet Taylor.

 

[Kapua]

From what I understand, phone companies keep records of all of your text messages, including images you've sent/received, and they can pinpoint exactly where you have been. These records usually aren't released for privacy reasons...unless involved in criminal activities. Let's hope the phone companies can shed some light.

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Yes, they do and yes they can. I found this interesting article on the web:
https://www.southuniversity.edu/whoweare/newsroom/blog/fighting-crime-with-mobile-technology-137309

Every time someone uses a cell phone, a signal is sent out that pinpoints where the user is. Cell towers and the GPS features in some smartphones track where a phone is at any moment. Cell phone carriers can provide authorities with a cell phone’s location via proper court documents.

Tracking subjects via their mobile devices has been utilized for many years and has become very much a part of many, if not all, investigations.

“Cell phone records can identify calls made and received. You also can obtain the cellular towers that were used in the conversation, SMS (short message service), or data communication,” says Lee Reiber, director of mobile forensics for AccessData, a provider of digital investigations, cyber security, and electronic discovery. “The cell phone records hold latitude and longitude information and can be used as a historical reference to where the mobile device was at a particular time.”

 

[puakenikeni]

Thanks, PT, it's been a few years since I've been to Hana, and the last time my friend and I made the loop back to Haiku, stopping at the Kaupo store and the Ulupalakua Ranch.

I still vote for him going to Nua'ailua first, and then Hana. It just seems too crazy rushed the other way 'round. Taylor said she met him between midnight and 2. We don't know what he did in Hana, but if it took 15-20 minutes, he could have made it back to Haiku by 1:35 or so to meet Taylor.

True, but if he first has to arrive at Peahi and torch the 4Runner by 12:30, and then somehow get to his other truck to meet Taylor?

I agree with your order as making sense, but there's a lot of activity to include.

 

[PeterTosh]

True, but if he first has to arrive at Peahi and torch the 4Runner by 12:30, and then somehow get to his other truck to meet Taylor?

I agree with your order as making sense, but there's a lot of activity to include.

Can we be clear as to when and where it was shown that the car was burned late 2/9 or early 2/10? The SUV was not found till Wednesday. Out in the open. At the top. In about a 50 yard diameter flat dirt patch. The most obvious place to look. ts hard to believe nobody (Myself included) saw the car till Wednesday.


Two days before the 4Runner was found, two people living at a rental property on Haumana Road in Haiku testified they smelled smoke in the early-morning hours of Feb. 10, 2014.

Hayley Carradine said she was awakened at 12:45 a.m. by the smoke that filled the ohana unit where she was staying with her grandmother. "I thought our property was on fire," she testified Tuesday morning. "I checked my grandmother. I immediately closed the window."

She said she checked the garage, main dwelling and other areas of the property, crossing a bridge to reach her parents' bedroom on the 35-acre property.

"I felt like the air was hazy, a really bad smell, bad smoke," she said. "It was toxic."

Carradine, who now lives in Los Angeles, said the property is about a five-minute drive from "Jaws."

Joseph Regelbrugge, who also lived in a unit on the property and helped Carradine with caregiving for her father, said he got home between 1 and 2 a.m. and noticed the smoke and strong burning smell.

It reminded him of when he was younger and his house burned down, including the garage containing vehicles, said Regelbrugge, who now lives in Seattle. "I remember that, that smell of rubber, of metal," he said.

Asked to describe the smell on Feb. 10, 2014, Regelbrugge said it was "like rubber, metal, chemical."

"It was a different kind of smoke and a different kind of smell," he said. "It smelled like something was melting or burning.

 

[puakenikeni]

Can we be clear as to when and where it was shown that the car was burned late 2/9 or early 2/10? The SUV was not found till Wednesday. Out in the open. At the top. In about a 50 yard diameter flat dirt patch. The most obvious place to look. ts hard to believe nobody (Myself included) saw the car till Wednesday.


Two days before the 4Runner was found, two people living at a rental property on Haumana Road in Haiku testified they smelled smoke in the early-morning hours of Feb. 10, 2014.

Hayley Carradine said she was awakened at 12:45 a.m. by the smoke that filled the ohana unit where she was staying with her grandmother. "I thought our property was on fire," she testified Tuesday morning. "I checked my grandmother. I immediately closed the window."

She said she checked the garage, main dwelling and other areas of the property, crossing a bridge to reach her parents' bedroom on the 35-acre property.

"I felt like the air was hazy, a really bad smell, bad smoke," she said. "It was toxic."

Carradine, who now lives in Los Angeles, said the property is about a five-minute drive from "Jaws."

Joseph Regelbrugge, who also lived in a unit on the property and helped Carradine with caregiving for her father, said he got home between 1 and 2 a.m. and noticed the smoke and strong burning smell.

It reminded him of when he was younger and his house burned down, including the garage containing vehicles, said Regelbrugge, who now lives in Seattle. "I remember that, that smell of rubber, of metal," he said.

Asked to describe the smell on Feb. 10, 2014, Regelbrugge said it was "like rubber, metal, chemical."

"It was a different kind of smoke and a different kind of smell," he said. "It smelled like something was melting or burning.

I thought we were clear where this came from pretty fresh testimony. As to how to account for it not being found Tuesday, I can't as it's not in the evidence we have. The prosecution is presenting this time frame for the arson, so I accepted that, given all the investigation they did and their incentive to get it right. The stop in Peahi and how he got to his next stop, on foot or by vehicle, should be part of the timeline they are presenting for that Sunday evening/Monday early morning.

How long would it take to walk from Jaws to Kalipo place if his white truck was there where he lived and had not been stashed (and endangered) for him to drive away from Peahi?

 

[Kapua]

True, but if he first has to arrive at Peahi and torch the 4Runner by 12:30, and then somehow get to his other truck to meet Taylor?

I agree with your order as making sense, but there's a lot of activity to include.

There's a lot of activity to include either way.

 

[Nikki Lisette]

When did Farnelli strip the 4Runner?