GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #6

[Mamamerced]

Where is the Hana Ranch in relation to Nua'ailua?

 

[PeterTosh]

I'm not sure at all this would be likely, because it takes some room to swing one, but the mention of a powerful blunt trauma reminds me that a very common assault weapon found in many a vehicle in Hawaii is a baseball bat. Kept at hand for offensive moves by some and for protection by others.

Hand held sledge hammer. Breaker Bar. Golf Club.

 

[PeterTosh]

SC didn't want to be transported to trial yesterday.:boohoo: Cry me a river, . Confess and get it over with or suck it up.

Two places - one closer to the stream. Only a few small parts found. Were the rest collected and boxed or bagged, then taken away and disposed of? Why leave the clothes and blanket behind?

Nobody wants to hear about the trauma and struggles that he has gone through. Having the woman you love and every friend you ever thought you had turn against you. Having a woman carrying your kid take away all say in that creature away from you as if she owns it more than you. Being defied by that very said person. Having to kill that woman and your own child in order to set the proper course for your destiny. Having to go back and butcher them up in order to get rid of the bodies. How horrible for him.How traumatic! Have any of you ever had to go through that? We cant relate. Let alone the time was short because everybody was trying so hard to find them and watching his every move. Thats a lot of pressure. Having the cops harass you. Having to spend two years in a dirty prison after living most of your life in the pristine jungles and beaches of Maui. Having to eat jail chow for 2 years after the pure organics that a health food store provides. Now having to sit through this oaf convince this Jury to take your life away while some Penguin flaps around in your defense. My God why have you forsaken Steven Capobianco?

He aint gonna confess. Its the only card he has left.

 

[Moxie_McTavish]

Great observation and theory, Moxie!

Yes, as I recall, divers were involved in the search. I will try to find the articles that mention the divers.

Edited to add, here's one:
http://www.**************/1138340/c...tape-gloves-as-worst-feared-for-hawaii-woman/

Thanks, Kapua!

So there was diving at Honomanu Bay, but we can't be sure of divers at Nua'ailua - the place where all the evidence was found. Honestly, nothing makes sense in this case, it's just a bizarre vortex of confusion. My brain hurts, I am really looking forward to the prosecution bringing it all together into a coherent story that makes sense. And I can't wait to read the book about this case when it comes out (I'm sure someone will write one at some point.)

Where is the Hana Ranch in relation to Nua'ailua?

Hana Ranch is in the grassy pasturage above and S. of Hana, I believe. I think Officer Taylor said the site on the Hana Ranch fence where the hair was found was around 16 miles away from Nua'ailua.

 

[Moxie_McTavish]

Nobody wants to hear about the trauma and struggles that he has gone through. Having the woman you love and every friend you ever thought you had turn against you. Having a woman carrying your kid take away all say in that creature away from you as if she owns it more than you. Being defied by that very said person. Having to kill that woman and your own child in order to set the proper course for your destiny. Having to go back and butcher them up in order to get rid of the bodies. How horrible for him.How traumatic! Have any of you ever had to go through that? We cant relate. Let alone the time was short because everybody was trying so hard to find them and watching his every move. Thats a lot of pressure. Having the cops harass you. Having to spend two years in a dirty prison after living most of your life in the pristine jungles and beaches of Maui. Having to eat jail chow for 2 years after the pure organics that a health food store provides. Now having to sit through this oaf convince this Jury to take your life away while some Penguin flaps around in your defense. My God why have you forsaken Steven Capobianco?
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PeterTosh, I am assuming that you're being sarcastic in this post, but I actually do feel sympathy toward Steven. I hate what he did but I actually do feel for the guy (no flames please). He had a very difficult life, apparently his father wasn't interested in him, his mother was a drug addict, and I am certain he experienced a lot of pain and dysfunction. I cannot help but feel sad for him. It must have taken a lot of prolonged pain, and experiencing hit after hit during his young years to turn him so cold. So, I can't help but feel sad for him, although I absolutely condemn his actions.

As they say, "Hurt people hurt people."

 

[PeterTosh]

PeterTosh, I am assuming that you're being sarcastic in this post, but I actually do feel sympathy toward Steven. I hate what he did but I actually do feel for the guy (no flames please). He had a very difficult life, apparently his father wasn't interested in him, his mother was a drug addict, and I am certain he experienced a lot of pain and dysfunction. I cannot help but feel sad for him. It must have taken a lot of prolonged pain, and experiencing hit after hit during his young years to turn him so cold. So, I can't help but feel sad for him, although I absolutely condemn his actions.

As they say, "Hurt people hurt people."

Sins of the Father. Never take away the accountability Steven has for this Murder. He owns it. Its his horror to live for the rest of his dammed days. I dont feel sorry for him. He should be shot in the head after having his arms and legs broke with a hammer and flesh cut to the bone so he begs for it.

 

[Moxie_McTavish]

Sins of the Father. Never take away the accountability Steven has for this Murder. He owns it. Its his horror to live for the rest of his dammed days. I dont feel sorry for him. He should be shot in the head after having his arms and legs broke with a hammer and flesh cut to the bone so he begs for it.

I agree that he must face the consequences for what he's done, but I still feel sad for the little boy Steven who shut down emotionally at some point because of the degree of his own pain. Sorry. I can't help it.

 

[Mamamerced]

Parents, "Teach Your Children Well". You are their guides.


I agree with both Moxie and PT. It's hard not to feel sad for the little, lost boy SC once was, or revulsion for the disfunctional, delusional adult he became.

Mox, hope you're considering yourself as a potential author of the Charli and Joshua story. Be sure to include your poem.

 

[Kapua]

Thanks, Kapua!

Honestly, nothing makes sense in this case, it's just a bizarre vortex of confusion. My brain hurts, I am really looking forward to the prosecution bringing it all together into a coherent story that makes sense. And I can't wait to read the book about this case when it comes out (I'm sure someone will write one at some point.)

I think I have finally arrived at the "acceptance" stage. I accept that little in this case makes sense. The fact that SC thought that murder would be the perfect solution to his dilemma itself makes no sense. I will probably read the books, too, because I know there's a lot that we didn't hear during the trial.

 

[heartgoesout]

We feel empathy because we're human. That's a good thing.
However, a lot of people grow up in awful circumstances yet do not slaughter another human being with such depravity. I'm also not so sure his childhood was exceptionally bad. He had choices. He had good teachers, he had good friends, good co-workers, good girlfriends. He had a good life. He chose this path. So although the empathy is there for this tragic story, and what could have been, His choice leaves me with only empathy for his past ,not his present or his future.

 

[KulaRN]

Hand held sledge hammer. Breaker Bar. Golf Club.

Large wrench. Tire iron. "Light tools"? All things Charli would expect him to have if going to work on his truck.

 

[heartgoesout]

I think I have finally arrived at the "acceptance" stage. I accept that little in this case makes sense. The fact that SC thought that murder would be the perfect solution to his dilemma itself makes no sense. I will probably read the books, too, because I know there's a lot that we didn't hear during the trial.

I still have a tiny wonder if someone else did the defleshing and mutilation. Rivera doesn't seem be going in this direction and I trust they know much more than we do therefore I don't question/discount what the professionals and authorities are saying. They've got more.

There was a point were Kimberlyn came to that acceptance stage when she was certain Steven was the killer. I don't think we've got to that part yet in the trial. What it is I don't know but I'm certain there will be that aha! moment if not several aha moments.

 

[heartgoesout]

Large wrench. Tire iron. "Light tools"? All things Charli would expect him to have if going to work on his truck.

We don't know if that's what he told her. That was just a made up story he told the police. We now know for certain the story was a lie.
We may never know what he told her, if he told her anything. This part is still a mystery.
Her family doesn't think she would have gone willingly with him for any reason.

 

[heartgoesout]

So Steven didn't want to go to court today and was also check by medical examiners. I wonder if he is suicidal?

 

[PeterTosh]

We feel empathy because we're human. That's a good thing.
However, a lot of people grow up in awful circumstances yet do not slaughter another human being with such depravity. I'm also not so sure his childhood was exceptionally bad. He had choices. He had good teachers, he had good friends, good co-workers, good girlfriends. He had a good life. He chose this path. So although the empathy is there for this tragic story, and what could have been, His choice leaves me with only empathy for his past ,not his present or his future.

There is Empathy and there is Sympathy. While I have Empathy I have zero Sympathy

 

[Kapua]

We don't know if that's what he told her. That was just a made up story he told the police. We now know for certain the story was a lie.
We may never know what he told her, if he told her anything. This part is still a mystery.
Her family doesn't think she would have gone willingly with him for any reason.

With all due respect for the Scott family, nobody knows for sure what Charli would or would not have done. Clearly, she went with him. We don't know if she went willingly or unwillingly.

 

[heartgoesout]

I think there will be evidence that shows she did not go willingly. The family thought this but than became more confident with that statement along with questioning laws about kidnappings. Again we've come to see that they know much more than we do and I really think this will be one of those.

 

[heartgoesout]

There is Empathy and there is Sympathy. While I have Empathy I have zero Sympathy

Exactly. I do not have any sympathy either.

 

[Kapua]

I think there will be evidence that shows she did not go willingly. The family thought this but than became more confident with that statement along with questioning laws about kidnappings. Again we've come to see that they know much more than we do and I really think this will be one of those.

I tend to agree with you, but I am keeping an open mind.

 

[PeterTosh]

I think there will be evidence that shows she did not go willingly. The family thought this but than became more confident with that statement along with questioning laws about kidnappings. Again we've come to see that they know much more than we do and I really think this will be one of those.

Which is why I believe she was stabbed in her car near or before Twin falls ( Because he uses Twin Falls in his excuse. Because they have a very large and long Pull-out for the throngs of tourist) and driven to Paraquats. She probably started putting up a fuss and he pulled over to calm her down. By killing her and Joshua. Reaching over from the drivers seat and stabbing like Nikki said.