How much does Jeremy know?

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I thought that was a different DB.

No. It is this Deborah L Bradley.

2/19/2009: 1 YEAR SIS PROBATION MWADP

That would be a mandated alcohol dependency program.

Curiously on 8/04/2009 She violated her parole and on 9/29/2009 a warrant was issued for failure to appear. She must have been arrested on 1/25/2010 because a cash bond was posted.
 
MWAPT offers supervised probation - and many other programs - not just drugs/alcohol treatment... fwiw


http://midwestadp.net/Programs.html

Respectfully, the bulk of their services are drug and alcohol related. The charge that DB pled guilty to resulted from a traffic stop for failure to register. Pleading guilty to shoplifting or domestic abuse (other services offered by MWADP) resulting in supervised probation initiated from a car stop is a bit unlikely, IMO.
 
I can't speak for DB, but I don't think JI is involved. I think he was told what happened by DB, continued to talk about it with DB as the days went on and firmly believes her. He's not the only one as it seems a majority of the family supports (and then I assume believe) DB.

Maybe he chooses not to believe the alternate. Maybe it is out of the realm of possibility in his mind that DB did anything to BL. I don't see why that's so hard to believe, we have many here that will not ever entertain the notion that DB is innocent, why can't someone have the reverse thinking?

BBM

I have explored that possibility, and if DB is indeed innocent, I would be amoung the first to offer her my heartfelt apology. I don' see that forthcoming however.

DB is not a stranger to him, she is the mother of his daughter. Sometimes people will not allow their mind to go there.

BBM
I think calling the man weak and a coward is a little much, considering nobody knows him personally.

To me he seems, looks, like a deer in the headlights. Let's not get into how everyone reacts differently, I realize that. Perhaps I am too passionate a person, but you would see me, and my family, begging, imploring, being everywhere and anywhere, including, and most importantly, being at the police station, together/separately, whatever it took.

BBM
This man may not be involved at all and may be as much a victim as any parent of a missing child, whether that child went missing at hands of an intruder or DB.


I hope you are correct in the above, and that JI is innocent.
 
There are a few Casenet entries for a different DB and one for this DB. Criminal for the wrong DB and traffic for the right one, IIRC.

I haven't explored this completely but I do know that data clerks transpose numbers frequently. I would advise to check the date and see if the numbers (birthdate) are similar. I have seen the year '78 being typed in as '87, etc..

Data clerks hit the wrong keys at times. I have found mistakes in many cases.
 
No. It is this Deborah L Bradley.

2/19/2009: 1 YEAR SIS PROBATION MWADP

That would be a mandated alcohol dependency program.

Curiously on 8/04/2009 She violated her parole and on 9/29/2009 a warrant was issued for failure to appear. She must have been arrested on 1/25/2010 because a cash bond was posted.

Wow! Thanks Hambirg. Looks like she has serious problems. I wonder if JI shares the same problem.

What we have here is a young woman with alcohol problems. We all suspected as much. What was she like when she drank? Nobody has stepped forth with that information. JI seems to ignore the issue and stand by her drinking..saying it doesn't change a person. We will eventually know the truth.
 
I haven't explored this completely but I do know that data clerks transpose numbers frequently. I would advise to check the date and see if the numbers (birthdate) are similar. I have seen the year '78 being typed in as '87, etc..

Data clerks hit the wrong keys at times. I have found mistakes in many cases.
This was not a case of transposed numbers. The other one has a totally different set of numbers in her birthdate. It has been proven to be a different DB by local media. The other DB also has other cases that would not be listed if it was this DB as she would have been a minor at the time and her case would have been in juvenile court which is not public nor listed in any way on casenet. DB is not an uncommon kind of name at all. Pretty generic, actually.
 
I haven't explored this completely but I do know that data clerks transpose numbers frequently. I would advise to check the date and see if the numbers (birthdate) are similar. I have seen the year '78 being typed in as '87, etc..

Data clerks hit the wrong keys at times. I have found mistakes in many cases.

The case numbers for this DB are sequential and on the exact same date. They are also Indpendence court whereas the other DB is KCMO courts so the series of case numbers are distinctly different. It's all good. :)
 
This was not a case of transposed numbers. The other one has a totally different set of numbers in her birthdate. It has been proven to be a different DB by local media. The other DB also has other cases that would not be listed if it was this DB as she would have been a minor at the time and her case would have been in juvenile court which is not public nor listed in any way on casenet. DB is not an uncommon kind of name at all. Pretty generic, actually.

It is this DB:

BRADLEY , DEBORAH L , Defendant
3620 N LISTER AVENUE
KANSAS CITY, MO 64117

Year of Birth: 1986


Unless the other Deborah L Bradley also lives at 3620 N Lister and shares her year of birth.

ETA- Interestingly enough Bank of America also tried to sue her, but that was dropped because they were unable to serve her.
 
Is Jeremy Irwin a common name in Missouri also? His sister took him to court for a $100.00 and his mother and father took him to court so they could see their grandchild. My, Jeremy has some issues...IMO.

When a family has to go to this extreme, there is something VERY wrong. It shows me he is not a reasonable human being. Has to make you wonder what it is like living in that household...
 
It is this DB:

BRADLEY , DEBORAH L , Defendant
3620 N LISTER AVENUE
KANSAS CITY, MO 64117

Year of Birth: 1986


Unless the other Deborah L Bradley also lives at 3620 N Lister and shares her year of birth.
The DB with known drug charges and a different birthdate does NOT have Lister as her address. All of Lisa's mom DB have the correct birthdate and no dates possibly transposed. Lisa's mom DB has only traffic and child custody proceedings listed.
 
What does any of this have to do with the thread topic?

How much does Jeremy know?
 
The DB with known drug charges and a different birthdate does NOT have Lister as her address. All of Lisa's mom DB have the correct birthdate and no dates possibly transposed. Lisa's mom DB has only traffic and child custody proceedings listed.

Yes. .traffic. That's what we are talking about. . .DUI.
 
Respectfully, the bulk of their services are drug and alcohol related. The charge that DB pled guilty to resulted from a traffic stop for failure to register. Pleading guilty to shoplifting or domestic abuse (other services offered by MWADP) resulting in supervised probation initiated from a car stop is a bit unlikely, IMO.


you are likely correct. i just read they did probation... didn't occur it wasn't a "general" type.

a google search explains that when a DUI/DWI probation in MO is completed, the charge is erased from a person's criminal record...

As long as you successfully complete the terms of your probationary period, an SIS will not result in a conviction “showing” on your record.



http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/...uilfoil/probation-in-a-missouri-dwi-case.html
 
So Jeremy could very well have had a DUI conviction if that is the case. Does Jeremy have one and does he have a problem with alcohol? As I mentioned previously, he appears to cover up for DB and her drinking. He parroted how alcohol doesn't change a person. This was my first clue into his mindset. He was backing DB and trying to assure the public, the alcohol didn't matter. This kind of reasoning is oftentimes used when alcohol is a problem.

This person is unique. He says it doesn't matter and shows no signs of being upset she was drinking when the baby vanished. He supports her....where most people in his position would be VERY angry if a person was drinking and watching their children and one of them vanished.

How much does he know? A lot!
 
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....and I saw four Jeremy Irwins on Google.
There are no less than four very distinctly different JI's just on casenet.

So Jeremy could very well have had a DUI conviction if that is the case. Does Jeremy have one and does he have a problem with alcohol? As I mentioned previously, he appears to cover up for DB and her drinking. He parroted how alcohol doesn't change a person. This was my first clue into his mindset. He was backing DB and trying to assure the public, the alcohol didn't matter. This kind of reasoning is oftentimes used when alcohol is a problem.

This person is unique. He says it doesn't matter and shows no signs of being upset she was drinking when the baby vanished. He supports her....where most people in his position would be VERY angry if a person was drinking and watching their children and one of them vanished.

How much does he know? A lot!
BBM If what is the case? He has absolutely no criminal charges listed.
 
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There are no less than four very distinctly different JI's just on casenet.


BBM If what is the case? He has absolutely no criminal charges listed.

RBM: Thank you, I thought I missed some breaking news but I see it's more of make it up as we go.
 
So Jeremy could very well have had a DUI conviction if that is the case. Does Jeremy have one and does he have a problem with alcohol? As I mentioned previously, he appears to cover up for DB and her drinking. He parroted how alcohol doesn't change a person. This was my first clue into his mindset. He was backing DB and trying to assure the public, the alcohol didn't matter. This kind of reasoning is oftentimes used when alcohol is a problem.

This person is unique. He says it doesn't matter and shows no signs of being upset she was drinking when the baby vanished. He supports her....where most people in his position would be VERY angry if a person was drinking and watching their children and one of them vanished.
How much does he know? A lot!

I struggle with the bolded part. I think it would be normal behavior to be very upset, angry, even resentful towards DB in this situation. Sometimes I think part of his odd behavior is him just keeping such a tight grip on everything to keep it from spilling out. If he is bottling up negative emotions, sooner or later they will surface. My gut says he doesn't know anything. Since I don't know him from a hole in the ground, my gut may need to go fly a kite.
 
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There are no less than four very distinctly different JI's just on casenet.


BBM If what is the case? He has absolutely no criminal charges listed.

I think it was referring to redheadedgal's post which said

a google search explains that when a DUI/DWI probation in MO is completed, the charge is erased from a person's criminal record...

As long as you successfully complete the terms of your probationary period, an SIS will not result in a conviction “showing” on your record.
 

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