Hurricane Harvey - August 2017

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Spellbound said:
Jazz, you sound so much like me. I am worrying over all our memebers and their family/friends as if they were my own children (and maybe grandchildren :hiding: ) I keep peeking in and holding myself back from responding to every post made, but whenI haven't heard/seen someone for "too long" (in mama's time) I have to send out an SOS-check in time.

'Glad to see totesmagoat (love that name.... will name my next child after you :giggle: .... will have to be a fur-babe, though). I hope you can convince mom to move out for a few days --- so you don't have to feel so stressed, Would she do it if you explained that she has all of you worried, and it would ease some stress on you to have her where you don't have to keep such an eye on the weather reports?




Indeed, I get more info from here than in TV or chasing same articles on different sites, WS is my first go-to for almost everything.

hang tight ... love you, scoots!




GEEVEE .... :uthere:





I hope TexMex is all right, with this and everything else. last post on WS was late July..... ???




Oh no! Sending up prayers and the most positive thoughts I can. I do hope she and DH can get out quickly if needed, but pray that she can stay put and at home and their health stays intact. :praying: thanks for the heads up, Tricia. Thinking of you, BESSIE!
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Good morning Spellbound and everyone! Mom has assured me that she's fine...oh how I hate that word right now. She has promised to leave if it gets too bad for her. Her street is no longer on the flooded list so that's great news!

I'm about to head to work and just wanted to let y'all know that we are doing great here. Hahaha! That was my goat in the pic. Nothing better than living in the country. I sure do miss him!


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Thanks for checking in and updating on your Mom, -totesmagoat! Keeping an eye out for you.
 
i'm watching the roads filling up quite quickly right now from the overflow. i really hope everyone in the area has evacuated, it's very much a swift current! i hope boats can do rescues.
 
MelmothTheLost said:
I see Telephone Pole Dog was freed and he and other abandoned animals there are safe though there's still no sign of their owners.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4830550/Meet-Lucky-dog-saved-Hurricane-Harvey.html

From the Mail report it sounds as though it might not have been deliberately callous, maybe down to unknown circumstances.
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Look at that poor, sweet baby! He looks so sad and scared. :cry: Thanks to Connellan he was at least saved from drowning.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4830550/Meet-Lucky-dog-saved-Hurricane-Harvey.html
 
Aug 29 2017, 5:12 am ET

After Harvey Leaves, Houston Faces Years of Rebuilding

by Jon Schuppe

When former Houston Mayor Bill White considers the long recovery ahead for his city in the wake of this week's devastating flooding, he doesn't need to look farther than his own home.

His house on the Buffalo Bayou was built on stilts — high enough, he said, to withstand a 100-year flood. But not Hurricane Harvey, which has been called a 500-year flood.

He fled the house in knee-deep water, and he’s staying with friends while deciding whether to rebuild.

"At the end of the day, this is likely to be the largest natural disaster by property damage in history," White said by phone from a neighbor's house on Monday.

White knows what he's talking about. He was mayor when thousands of people displaced by Hurricane Katrina fled for Houston in 2005. And he was in office when Hurricane Ike hit the city three years later...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/h...leaves-houston-faces-years-rebuilding-n796871
 
Houston top cop worried ‘how many bodies’ will be found

Michael Graczyk and David Phillip, Associated Press Published 7:08 a.m. ET Aug. 29, 2017

Houston — Crews overwhelmed by thousands of rescue calls during one of the heaviest downpours in U.S. history have had little time to search for other potential victims, but officials acknowledge the grim reality that fatalities linked to Harvey could soar once the devastating floodwaters recede from one of America’s most sprawling metropolitan centers.

More than three days after the storm ravaged the Texas coastline as a Category 4 hurricane, authorities had confirmed only three deaths — including a woman killed Monday when heavy rains dislodged a large oak tree onto her trailer home in the small town of Porter. But unconfirmed reports of others missing or presumed dead were growing...

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2017/08/29/hurricance-harvey-texas/105072968/
 
CARIIS said:
The addicks dam is 6 inches from spillway, ( for the first time-)

the spillway is like the thing in our bathtubs or bathroom sink when the water gets too high it goes through those holes)

they are still running models to try and determine exactly what that translates to

Makes sense in a way its never happened before and they cant actually predict inflow .

We would need to know how fast our bathroom sink will fill up and how much . how fast . how long it will be pouring through the hole.

Inflow is still higher than out flow so it is just gonna happen

Better to try to use the spillway and see if you can release enough through the spillway as opposed to it coming over the top of dam itself .

That was why they tried to do the reservoirs first.

That is what happened in Orville they were having trouble with the spillway and shut it off to inspect.

During that time period inflow rose and it overtopped. Kinda like your bathtub overflowing

might as well hope that the emergency drain in the tub would keep the tub from overflowing itself,

going through the emergency drain is more controlled than the bathtub just overflooding




damn is 70 years old

was built after a couple of floods in the 20's to protect downtown

they sounded pretty clear that it will happen in about 3 hours

The Bayou is doing well at this

Mixed blessing water is drooping which translates to size of boats being able to be used

moves it over to truck needs
some folks will be able to see thier homes for the first time. He warned he was flooded in the past and going back is a very difficult emotionally
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Thanks for updating so early this AM. Just woke up & read this, so knew to check out news & Twitter.

Sure hope that spillway works OK and that the rain cooperates at least a little today, and that the dam holds , and that Geevee and everyone else in harm's way near that water trap- reservoir is OK and stays safe and dry today.
 
CARIIS said:
Hope

I cant seem to find the actual two dams -- all I keep getting are the reservoirs

Have you found the actual inflow /outflow rates for both actual dams?
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No, I haven't found flow info for either dam. Just for the reservoirs.
 
Attica spillway has began

its basically gone be like a lava flow where it keeps coming and rises slowly

the spillway will probably spill for about 30 days

since they have never needed the spillway they do not know exactly how and where the the water is going to flow depending specific and varying on elevations all over

The water also goes into Buffulo Bayoo that is overbanked - but they dont know exactly how much , how fast, future loading as the rest of the water from all over the area "make it" to the reservoir, and then the dam.

It is very complicating for them becasue there are so many variables



actual amount coming from all over the area, actual inflow into reservoir , then how much inflow from the reservoir into the damn , which results in how much actually comes out of the spillway

So its kinda like if your bathroom sink is the reservoir and the tub is dame what happens with how much water goes over the tub depends on how much stuff from the overflowing sink gets into the tub.

the downstream flooding has also arlready started , another whole community was dry last night, as water has moved down from all over it flooded out another community.

This is going to go on for weeks . It will be kinda like dominos in slow motion.

Its not gonna be like tidal wave, it going to a very slow fill, but the reality and problem is they are talking about complete and total destruction of many many many more communities in the weeks ahead

Barker is going to do the same thing, and there will be actual overtopping. This is super bad . Super bad

sad story
 
CARIIS said:
That does not make sense does it? I Was able to get in and outs all of the state of California!
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It doesn't make sense, and is frustrating. I've looked everywhere, including on every site I could find relating to the Harris Water Control District; district Corps of Engineers, and Emergency Management.....
 
totesmagoat said:
Good morning Spellbound and everyone! Mom has assured me that she's fine...oh how I hate that word right now. She has promised to leave if it gets too bad for her. Her street is no longer on the flooded list so that's great news!

I'm about to head to work and just wanted to let y'all know that we are doing great here. Hahaha! That was my goat in the pic. Nothing better than living in the country. I sure do miss him!


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Thanks so much for the update, totesmagoat. So relieved to hear that your mother's street is no longer on the flooded list. That must feel like ten tons off your shoulders!

Thanks too for the bit of bio about your goat.

Like Spellbound, I love your username too, and it's neat to hear how special he was to you.

He sure was a lucky goat to be so loved!
 
It is becoming somewhat frustrating. The angle remains I wonder if there are any people back there ?
Of course there are people back there everywhere

Why would there not be? There was not an evacuation order. Where people when he came ashore. Where the live - where else would they be?

Mars? Pluto? Govt needs to wake up. This is not about some residents and some boats.

We need hundreds of those ugly Katrina trucks roaming all over the state of Texas.

We need thousands of soldiers or guards or whatever

We need hundreds of airboats - the most ideal mode cause now water is going to start going down

We need body removal to avoid disease.

Its like officials (federal not local) are like they are ok look they have 32 boats and some furniture trucks moving people around .

Rescuing 5000 people out of a city of millions really does not mean much now does it?

Wake up washington. Millions no longer have a place to live.

We need to build communities- people cant live in a stadium for two years.

We need 100's of tow trucks. We need vast places to put all these totalled vehicles.

We are going to need houndreds of garbage trucks.

we are going to need 100's of 18 wheelers restocking food stores that are not wrecked by flood waters.

In all likelihood we will have some sewer problems down the road - we probably need 100s of water tankers

We are going to need 1000's of power crew to rebuild parts of the grid that have been destroyed

Hospitals are going to need to be restocked.

School districts are going to need to start to figure out where they going to do school?

We need thousands of contractors to deal with repairs.

Where are people gonna even buy replacement vehicles - cars at dealerships have lots full of totalled cars.

Thousands of homes are going to need to be demolished .

Mounds of demolished homes need somewhere to be moved to .

Grocery stores all over the state are flooded. All there food is rotten by now .

The fantasy that they are not a lot of deceased people inside homes is pretty far fetched

The entire dynamic has changed when the dams changed. As long as there not a uncontrolled release , the control releases are still going to result in a much faster total destruction of communities.

The waters in these areas are going to be fast moving like rivers instead of pools - that impacts which vehicles can be used.

This is not wind damage. This is the flood of the century

Katrina was the 2nd grade. This is grad school..........................................
 
CNN just reported, levee at Columbia Lakes has breached. urging residents to GET OUT NOW! (south of Houston)
 
Jax49 said:
https://twitter.com/abc13houston/status/902542588187742208

#BREAKING: Levee at Columbia Lakes breached in Brazoria Co. | 'Get out now,' officials say http://abc13.com/2347003/ #HarveyFlood
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[FONT=&quot]This is so bad Jax, this leads to more and more breaches -- everything is water loged and the water is going faster

[/FONT]I dont understand where everything is connected but I hope this breach is not above the dams

[FONT=&quot]very scary[/FONT]
 
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