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Going on memory, but I believe it was near the teenage cousin's house. Best I can remember was North end of Waterloo or Cedar Falls. Someone who was posting back then might remember.
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Cedar Valley Lakes Trail - IIRC, the park that Lyric went to (with her teenage cousin) shortly before she was abducted was this trail, same trail system as Meyer's Lake trail.
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https://www.cedartrailspartnership.org/2015-Trail-Map-Paved-Trails.PDF
Red is bike trails on the map - from South of Meyer's Lake to Waterloo loop.
Who knows. I always believed that there was a reason that Lyric and Lizzy parked their bikes against the fence on the secluded section of the trail as they did. It didn't seem random. The bikes weren't dropped, they were parked. Same is true of Libby and Abby, they were intentionally on that bridge at that time.
Why were the girls at the secluded area in the first place? That's the question. Many speculated that Lyric met someone either in person or virtually who invited her for a boat ride on the leech infested lake. Maybe the murderer had a gang of puppies in a paddle boat, or he offered a better Disneyland life, or Lyric was collateral for an unpaid drug debt.
Seems more likely that they rode to that spot intentionally and met someone who, perhaps armed with a gun (as with Libby and Abby), gave them no choice but to do as told. They were taken to a nearby vehicle and driven 20 miles away to where they were assaulted and murdered.
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Dang it, I think I may be coming around to your idea that the cases are connected. I remembered someone from this case who could pass for BG in Libby & Abby’s case.
I've always believed that these two sets of murders were committed by the same perp. I don't have any proof, just a gut feeling that doesn't go away.Is there any notable bridges at 7 Bridges Wildlife Area?
It just strikes me that Libby and Abbie were killed at the the Mononn High Bridge which is on a trail in Delphi, Indiana.
2 murders of 2 girls, both with a connection to hiking trails / outdoor recreation areas and both possible connections to bridges.
Same.. imo, speculation.I've always believed that these two sets of murders were committed by the same perp. I don't have any proof, just a gut feeling that doesn't go away.
I've always believed that these two sets of murders were committed by the same perp. I don't have any proof, just a gut feeling that doesn't go away.
I feel the same way my friend. I think of those two beautiful young girls and their families often and wonder what they would be doing now if their lives hadn't been stolen from them in such a viscous manner.
On a lighter note, I'd like to wish you wonderful Christmas.![]()
There seems to be a sense of duality about these cases, the dates, the girls, even the BG sketches, so- just a thought, speculation, imo. fwiwI'm not convinced the killer of Elizabeth and Lyric is the same as the Delphi killer, but I do see similarities. I don't rule it out either. Indiana SP 1st Sgt Jerry Holeman in his August 2017 interview stated that they discussed this case with Iowa LE. He states they did not see a connection, BUT he qualifies that by stating the state of the bodies of Lyric and Elizabeth means some things can't be determined. He never stated they ruled out a connection either, just that they haven't found one.
I do wonder if there is some indirect connection. That is, the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German is the work of a copycat. That could explain some similarities.
Maybe his father? Also, MH used to work at a summer camp...I don’t think Kline killed Abby & Libby and certainly don’t think he’s involved with Elizabeth & Lyric.
The biggest issue with the idea of Lyric being catfished or lured is she didn’t have a phone, she was 10.
I lean more towards the bikes were dumped at the lake and purse thrown over the fence to push the idea that they’d drowned. It’s been a while, but if I remember correctly the last video of them they weren’t even riding toward the lake. You could get to the lake that way but it wasn’t the fastest way and their bikes were there only a couple minutes after being seen on video.
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By the time their bodies were found, they would have been nearly skeletonized. Clothing helped confirmed identity.
Unsolved: Eights years ago today, the bodies of Lyric Cook-Morrissey and Elizabeth Collins were discovered
"On Wednesday, December 5, 2012, their bodies were found by hunters at the Seven Bridges Wildlife Park near Readlyn in Bremer County-a wildlife area approximately 25 miles from where the girls were last seen.
Lyric and Elizabeth were seen at approximately 12:23 P.M. on Friday, July 13, 2012 , and then spotted between 12:30 and 1 P.M. on Gilbert Drive not far from Meyers Lake, a popular fishing and recreation area with about 4,700 residents.
The offender profile concluded, in part, that:
- The offender is familiar with both Meyers Lake/Angels Park in Evansdale and Seven Bridges Wildlife Area in Bremer County;
- The suspect chose Seven Bridges because he or she was familiar with the area and knew it was secluded;
- The offender blends in with and may be part of the Evansdale, Bremer and surrounding communities;
- The suspect likely used “quiet coercion” to gain the girls’ compliance into leaving Meyers Lake, using a ruse or threats of violence, and that other possible characteristics include:
- The suspect may have been experiencing stress related to legal troubles, spousal problems, employment difficulties, financial strain or mental health issues in July 2012;
- The suspect may avoid discussing the case or showing interest in the matter but is likely following developments in the media;
- The offender may have attempted to abduct children or adults in the past;
- Following the disappearance, the suspect may have altered his or her physical appearance, such as changing hair style and facial hair. The offender’s vehicle may also have been altered with a new paint job or re-upholstery.
- The Courier also reported that “analysts’ experience with prior abduction cases points to one person being involved, but there are cases where more than one person was involved.”
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BBM from your post:
The suspect may have been experiencing stress related to legal troubles, spousal problems, employment difficulties, financial strain or mental health issues in July 2012;
I was looking at the correlation recently on something else related to job loss and violent crime. Out of curiosity, I looked at the state labor data for Iowa and found one mass layoff of interest in regards to location and time frame. Beef Products, Inc. of Waterloo let go of 216 employees 5/25/2012. According to Google Maps, the address listed for the meat processing facility was 20 mins to the Seven Bridges area and 11 mins to Meyers Lake.
https://www.iowaworkforcedevelopmen...kforcedevelopment.gov/files/warn_20160210.pdf
I agree with where you are coming from and I would consider going one step further and using analytical skills by a trained analyst to look at the data dump of all the cell phone numbers utilising the masts in the areaIve said this before
An Overwhelming number of child killers return to the body recovery site usually within 48 hours after leaving the victim(s) there, many do subsequently until a state of decomposition, and even after that .
Ill stress again that LE should push as much as possible to find anyone who saw persons or vehicles in the general vicinity where the girls were recovered, from the time they were reported missing up until until the time of recovery,
I know its a large span of time, but it appears other avenues have stalled.
And though its a long shot , perhaps scrutinize security footage on roads near that area to see if theres a similar vehicle traversing the area regularly, it may be nothing..... but it may be something.
Especially if a similar vehicle is familiar to those in the area where the girls lived it may be more than coincidence .
Im willing to bet this individual has returned to those girls bodies , and probably more than once, may have even returned to the scene after they were discovered, and may have even helped look for them while they were missing, I also state again he was probably interviewed by police already.
Somebody out there has suspicions or knows something, they just aren't coming forward