I certainly don't think Heather and Drew were negligent parents, so why would CPS be involved? Who said Elizabeth stayed home by herself?
I raised the question about Lizzie's biking habits because if she DID ride further than one block often enough for her parents to have rules for her to follow, then it would be interesting to know where she went, how often she was allowed to do so, and the route she took to get there. IMO that could provide other possibilities as to where a person with bad intents might have seen her prior to July 13th. JMO
I quoted the post I was responding to, I do not believe that Heather and Drew were negligent in the least, I do not believe they left their 8 y/o child home alone. If they did, I do believe CPS would do an investigation.
then it's likely he walked along the lake edge, put the bikes on the trail side of the gate,
If he touched those bikes there might be prints.
I'm just thinking that if we look only at what has been officially stated regarding the bloodhounds, and ignore all the speculations and rumor, then it sounds like the bloodhounds simply identified the bikes that were at the water. Based on official information, it does not sound like the bloodhounds tracked in any direction away from the bikes, which would suggest to me that the scent could have been on the bikes, but that there was no "oldest to newest" scent leaving the bikes.
FBI Breault: The scent did lead to the water, which is also where their bikes were found."
http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdal...cle_e795f002-d1ad-11e1-b983-001a4bcf887a.html
Why leave the bikes? If they were taken close to home, why drop the bikes at all? Same goes for the lake. In a hurry? The girls must have already been subdued so why leave the bikes behind and take the chance LE would get evidence from them and the purse?
If I planned an abduction I would want it to look like they disappeared into thin air. Leave nothing behind. This person is smart not lucky. IMO
Well guess it was another male poster that saw the tire tracks near the wood Elephers maybe ? not sure but I do remember reading it also the Dogs stopped I don't mean dead stop I mean they lost the scent and there was no scent :banghead: to follow at the woods and took the dos to the edge of the lake. . I recall Wylma sitting and trying to cool off
Could it perhaps be someone that had a quieter day on one of the acreages between Evansdale and 7 Brdiges?
Why leave the bikes? If they were taken close to home, why drop the bikes at all? Same goes for the lake. In a hurry? The girls must have already been subdued so why leave the bikes behind and take the chance LE would get evidence from them and the purse?
If I planned an abduction I would want it to look like they disappeared into thin air. Leave nothing behind. This person is smart not lucky. IMO
Otto, I have a request for another of your very much appreciated maps. I am interested in the road that leads to 7 Bridges Park. I remember seeing a photo that showed a harvested field. I am interested in what is alongside that road, on either side--fields, farms, homes, etc. The route in. Wondering how many eyes and ears are in the area when vehicles go in there. Thank You again so much for your wonderful maps!
Well, it was true enough for a major newspaper to print it, and I've seen no retraction by the Des Moines Register.
As to where that info came from, who knows, but I figured Aunt Tammy was truthful when she said LE told the family this. I believe the family knows quite a bit about what happened to the girls, and when, that LE doesn't feel they need to share with us. JMO
Right now, I don't think LE is too concerned about whether or not we, the public, have all the information. They are focused on trying to solve this terrible crime, not asking the public to help them do it (other than asking for tips). After all, as invested as most of us are in the case, we aren't LE or FBI and the likelihood that any snippet of info from LE would enable us to solve this crime are negligible, IMO.
I think the perp left the bikes in order to buy himself more time.
If the bikes had not been found, it would have quickly been considered an abduction, IMO. I think the last thing the perp wanted was to make it look like the girls disappeared into thin air.
I agree with you that this perp is smart, not lucky.
I think the perp left the bikes in order to buy himself more time.
I think the last thing the perp wanted was to make it look like the girls disappeared into thin air. I think he wanted to make it seem the girls might have drowned in the lake,or just wandered off on their own and got lost. Leaving the bikes there ensured that LE didn't immediately come to the conclusion that the girls were abducted.
I agree with you that this perp is smart, not lucky.
It was Ollipop, a local who is related by marriage to the family, who saw tire tracks.
I took it as her saying that if Elizabeth went somewhere, that she would call and let her parents know she was heading home before she left her current location so the parents could be watching for her.I didn't take Heather's statement that way at all. I took it to say when they allow her to go more than one block she must call when she gets there. To me that sounds like they keep a close eye on her and dont just let her run around all over creation.
I seriously doubt that Heather and Drew let Elizabeth stay home by herself. I would imagine they allow her to go to her friends house when grandma is watching them, but she must call her parents and ask permission, then once she gets to her friends house she calls mom and lets her know. When she gets home from friends house she calls mom and lets her know.
If they were in the habit of letting Elizabeth stay home by herself I'm sure we would have heard by now how CPS was involved.
Has Ollipop been in much, since the girls were found?
Local grapevine news would be invaluable...I'll take anything, rumour or not!
I guess I don't have a criminal mind. :rocker:
So if the bikes were planted there the perp wouldn't have thrown them over the fence taking the chance of damaging them because LE would know. Therefore, if the girls did not lay the bikes down the perp did and that takes time. I would think time was of the essence. The faster it is done the greater the chance of messing up. Unless, of course, this perp has had a lot of practice. IMO