IA IA - Elizabeth Collins & Lyric Cook - Found Deceased - Evansdale - 13 Jul 2012 #39

[Considering]

He said it was about 12:20 pm. He stopped and called his daughter at 12:27 pm.

 

[B4igo2it]

 

[Ommmm]

As

As far as I know, LE has never publicly acknowledged TG as a witness who saw the girls’ bikes.

TG was / is a long time friend of the man who was the Evansdale police chief during that time

 

[Ommmm]

For those who have not already joined, there's a Facebook group for Elizabeth & Lyric that aims to be a solid source of information. The Evansdale Murders - Unsolved Homicides. Also of note, there is hope of HBO releasing a documentary about the girls' disappearance this Fall. Hopefully these two things can help generate some new attention.

 

[Considering]

Wilma passed in March.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/wcfcourier/name/wylma-cook-obituary?id=54753399

 

[Ommmm]

When it comes to the question of whether or not LE was able to recover DNA, maybe it was impossible to recover DNA from the girls after being left in the elements (and maybe not). Maybe they put their bikes down on the trail on their own and he never touched them (or maybe not). BUT... I feel certain he's the one who threw that purse over the fence. There's no reason why Elizabeth would want to chuck her purse, and she may not have even been able to throw it high enough to get it over. It was recovered by LE fairly early and taken in as evidence. A few skin cells, a sweaty hand, a hair? Unless he was planned and prepared enough to be wearing gloves, which goes against the crime of opportunity theory, he touched that purse.

 

[Yemelyan]

When it comes to the question of whether or not LE was able to recover DNA, maybe it was impossible to recover DNA from the girls after being left in the elements (and maybe not). Maybe they put their bikes down on the trail on their own and he never touched them (or maybe not). BUT... I feel certain he's the one who threw that purse over the fence. There's no reason why Elizabeth would want to chuck her purse, and she may not have even been able to throw it high enough to get it over. It was recovered by LE fairly early and taken in as evidence. A few skin cells, a sweaty hand, a hair? Unless he was planned and prepared enough to be wearing gloves, which goes against the crime of opportunity theory, he touched that purse.

I believe so too. I think this case will be solved and it's just a matter of time.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*Saturday will mark 12 years since two eastern Iowa cousins vanished in Evansdale, and investigators say they are not giving up on the case

12 years since disappearance of Evansdale cousins

Saturday will mark 12 years since two eastern Iowa cousins vanished in Evansdale, and investigators say they are not giving up on the case.

www.live5news.com

 

[gregjrichards]

*Saturday will mark 12 years since two eastern Iowa cousins vanished in Evansdale, and investigators say they are not giving up on the case

12 years since disappearance of Evansdale cousins

Saturday will mark 12 years since two eastern Iowa cousins vanished in Evansdale, and investigators say they are not giving up on the case.

www.live5news.com

It is hard to believe that it is 12 years since the extremely tragic day when the news broke that Elizabeth and Lyric were missing. I remember hoping and praying they would be found alive, discussing the case with all of you who have been posting here since the beginning and watching all the press conferences to see if there were any developments.

It is infuriating that Elizabeth and Lyric’s murderer(s) has escaped justice for the past 12 years and, tragically, it took so long to find their remains. I really hope the documentary called ‘Turn Yourself In’ about the case is still going ahead. It would be great if this could draw public attention to the case, and hopefully it will provide the tip(s) law enforcement need to find the monster(s) responsible.

Elizabeth and Lyric’s loved ones continue to be in my thoughts and prayers. They have not been forgotten, and we have not given up hope that they will get justice.

 

[Ommmm]

 

[Taffy550]

I don't have Max. @Ommmm, could you keep us updated on this show? If any names or new evidence come to light. Thank you for the heads up on this.

 

[otto]

I would like to hear updates as well. I recall that clothing was used to confirm identification ... a shoe? We tried to estimate what would be left of the bodies after 5 months. There's a formula I've used, but don't have handy, using variables of temperature, dates, and decomposition rates to predicts what remains.

DNA on the purse should be possible, and Lizzie's phone. I doubt anything could be retrieved from the bodies. The question is whether trace evidence that was collected in 2012 has been tested using today's more advanced DNA testing options. Even a small trace could lead to a genealogical trace and narrowed down to a suspect.

Elizabeth's father alluded to sexual assault in later interviews. Is that confirmed. If so, why? Were all clothing found?

I hope Misty has a lot to say about onliners suggesting that she had a drug debt, so her daughter was kidnapped to satisfy that debt. Rude, but what a fiasco it created.

The film: Turn Yourself In

 

[otto]

I've always been curious about Lyric's cousin who took Lyric for a walk to meet two males at a nearby park one evening. Lyric was so late returning that her parents phoned police. Lyric and her cousin showed up just as police arrived, so it was quickly resolved.

That was a week before Lyric and Elizabeth left their grandmother's house on bikes to ride around the alley, and then they took off to an area that Elizabeth knew through a friend: the leech infested manmade Meyers Lake.

I'm curious whether meeting older males with her cousins caused Lyric to act older than her age and to want to appeal to older males. Was Lyric approached in the alley behind the auction house, in the mall parking lot, via dating apps, or was it pre-arranged that she would meet a friend on the lake trail that day?

 

[otto]

My impression is that Lyric wanted to get to the lake trail that day at noon, and Lizzie new the cycling trail. Why did Lyric want to get to get to that trail? Did she enlist Elizabeth to get her there? That's what it looks like.

There are limited possibilities for how Lyric was enticed to ditch her grandmother and take Lizzie as a tagalong. The meeting of two older males a week earlier with Lyric's cousin matters. Alternatives are that Lyric and Lizzie were approached my someone in the alley behind the auction house who lured them to cycle quite a distance without permission and park their bikes near the lake access gate. That is where Lizzie's purse was found - apparently tossed over that fence.

First evidence suggests that the girls parked their bikes, Lizzie's purse was tossed over the fence, and both girls crossed to the other side of the fence to retrieve the purse and Lizzie's phone. Then, they probably walked along the shore towards the 1980s+ Meyer's Lake party area that has vehicle access.

They were put in the back of a van, driven 20 miles North of Meyers' Lake, and left in an abandoned youth camp after bridge collapse cut access. The area is popular for hunting and fishing. No one notices a gunshot or two in the night.

Has cause of death been revealed?

 

[steeltowngirl]

Has cause of death been revealed?

“Authorities never revealed the cause of death to the public because they believe it is information only the killer would know.”

Case of murdered Evansdale cousins still unsolved 11 years after girls' bodies were found

Today marks 11 years since hunters found the bodies of Iowa cousins Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook. No arrests have ever been made in the case.

www.kcci.com

 

[twall]

Just finished watching. Very good and hope to have definitive answers soon!