First let me say that in response to your disclaimer in your post: I think your post was polite and did not think it an attack in any way. Whether I agree with all points or not I think your post was repectful of all readers and serious and I respect that.
Franklinfiles said:
I think it is at least important to consider what Noreen herself is on the record as saying. Obviously as Johnny's mother who has made finding Johnny the defining point to her life, she is going to be the most informed of anyone on this subject matter. . .
All family start on the suspect list in the disappearance of a child and remain there until they can be ruled out. I don't hate noreen or the father either but I follow that rule and so far I have been unable to remove them from the suspect list.
Now we come to why to believe noreen (or any person involved in the case) or to not believe. I always ask if there is any reason reported in MSM to not believe a person in the case. I find that several people have credibility problems in MSM (Main Stream Media). Noreen's own husband in news print has expressed doubts that the midnight visit (late night) with her long lost son ever took place. That places doubt on her other words about the kidnapping of her son as well.
We know that at least one of the pics that she has said were given to her (one pic allegedly showing her son) had a pic that was tampered with to make it black and white from colored and to add a
tattoo brand that was not there originally. And, to me, that casts doubt on her word as identifying her son in one of the pics. Also the father and siblings of johnny have not identified in MSM their johnny as being in any of the pics and, to me, that casts doubt on noreens word.
Do parents sometimes lie about what happened to their child? Yes, of course they do. Just read websleuths cases to see what I mean. Often parents who are involved in the disappearance of a child lie and sometimes they lie to keep some other embarrassing things from being uncovered in the investigation and sometimes they think their kid just ran away but want the thing to appear as a crime so the L.E. will continue to investigate instead of requiring them to find their own child. All those options have been seen in websleuths cases but I can't say I have yet read where an innocent parent went nuts from the stress of having the child go missing and told lies because of it. It may well happen but I have not yet read of it in all the many cases I have read since before I joined to be able to post. Do I believe noreen lied? I think it highly likely based on the doubts that were cast as mentioned above but, personally, I can't yet stamp a verdict on it without more evidence. I just cannot easily use her or her website as a good reliable source of info in this case.
Do others have credibility issues? Yes they do but I don't want to say things in this post just to get the conspiracy people up in arms so I will stop with what I have already pointed out for now.
Let me take a moment to propose an idea.
I am in favor of
all aspects of the case having a thread to be discussed, whether I agree with all of the thread premises or not.
I think we all should together ask for this case to be made featured or spotlight so it can have multiple threads for us to look at this complex case from all angles. I think there should be a thread about the pics and who is in them and who is distributing them and who is altering some of them. I think there should be several different conspiracy threads for all the different theories of conspiracy and pedo rings and private versus govt. involvement. I just also want this thread for the nonconspiracy premise so all aspects of that can be looked at and maybe we need a serial killer theory thread and a neighbor gone wild thread and a runaway boy thread just to look at all aspects of the case. I am sure people can think of more possibilities for thread discussions than I can.
Lastly, I think that if we ever get the multi thread case status we should remember to not go onto a competing theory thread just to argue against it or to respond to something in their thread that we think was said that was bad about our own theory.
That's my thoughts and no offense meant to anyone.