IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #39

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[Deleted member 227095]

Just saw this article that defendant has NEW COUNSEL. Suspect in Mollie Tibbetts’ Murder Gets New Counsel, Waives Preliminary Hearing
Not sure if this has been discussed on here previously. Sorry in advance if this is a reposting of something others have previously posted.

Mollie Tibbetts case: Suspect Cristhian Rivera changes lawyers

So, it looks like Defendant won't be appearing in court on Friday.

 

[JnRyan]

I ponder why this killer - with ties to another country - doesn't leave. A Greyhound bus ticket from Des Moines to El Paso TX could be had for less than $180. But he didn't. Why? Thought he was too smart? Thought he got away with it?

Then I think about other missing persons or murders in small towns like Liberty German/Abigail Williams, Lyric Cook/Elizabeth Collins, Jodi Huisentruit or Mariana Boelter. Has the perpetrators for those crimes been hiding in plain sight, too?

 

[TL4S]

You think so? I am truly chagrined, as my alcohol addled, devious mind had not yet thought of that! I am not worthy!!! And this is something that would be SOP back home in Louisiana. But speaking of conspiracy theories, if it were hush money, what else might CR know?

A conspiracy theorist might also question what they knew but didn't come forward with...

Again, NOT necessarily my opinion! Actually, I'm too obsessed with maps to even think about the legal side, which I know nothing about.

 

[jillycat]

My map marking skills are NOT great, so bear with me. The highlighted line is the 1900 block of 385. The blue circle is Boundary and Middle St. area. The black circle is 385 and 200. The red circle is where Mollie's body was found.

Thank you! That helps.

 

[KaaBoom]

I ponder why this killer - with ties to another country - doesn't leave. A Greyhound bus ticket from Des Moines to El Paso TX could be had for less than $180. But he didn't. Why? Thought he was too smart? Thought he got away with it?

Then I think about other missing persons or murders in small towns like Liberty German/Abigail Williams, Lyric Cook/Elizabeth Collins, Jodi Huisentruit or Mariana Boelter. Has the perpetrators for those crimes been hiding in plain sight, too?

A few reasons.

1. There was no apparent evidence against him. So he had no reason to worry at that point.

2. Leaving to go to Mexico, would have only increased suspicion of him.

3. Going to Mexico would have accomplished nothing. Mexico has an extradition treaty with the US. They would have extradited him immediately.

 

[jhny]

I ponder why this killer - with ties to another country - doesn't leave. A Greyhound bus ticket from Des Moines to El Paso TX could be had for less than $180. But he didn't. Why? Thought he was too smart? Thought he got away with it?

Then I think about other missing persons or murders in small towns like Liberty German/Abigail Williams, Lyric Cook/Elizabeth Collins, Jodi Huisentruit or Mariana Boelter. Has the perpetrators for those crimes been hiding in plain sight, too?

Mexico is more dangerous than Iowa prison.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

Info on one of the new attys: Marshalltown Lawyer - Marshalltown Attorney - Jennifer Bonzer | Johnson, Bonzer and Barnaby PLC

 

[jillycat]

Sociopath perhaps? Huge DSM category.

I think the committee did away with that label and now politely call it "anti-social personality disorder". I was being facetious. There was some discussion of him showing shame in court. I didn't see that.

 

[The Farm]

3. Going to Mexico would have accomplished nothing. Mexico has an extradition treaty with the US. They would have extradited him immediately.

Ummmm he would have disappeared down there and they would have never found him to extradite.

 

[Jaclin]

Mollie Tibbetts case: Suspect Cristhian Rivera changes lawyers

Rivera, through his new attorneys, has withdrawn all pending motions filed by Richards and waived Rivera's right to a preliminary hearing. That means Rivera will not appear in court on Friday as previously scheduled. [bbm]

Richards had filed a motion for a gag order seeking to bar media from all court proceedings in the case.

"It’s not something Chad and I would have requested if we were on the case initially, so that’s the reason we’re withdrawing it," Jennifer Frese said. She declined to give further details about their legal strategy.
Mollie Tibbetts case: Suspect Cristhian Rivera changes lawyers

CR's new defense attorneys are a married couple, but work for separate firms. They've never tried a case like this together, but ..."they decided it would be good to have two attorneys defending Rivera since it's a high-profile case. Both Jennifer and Chad Frese practice criminal defense work, she said."

I think these 2 just want their 15 minutes of fame.

 

[RANCH]

Info on one of the new attys: Marshalltown Lawyer - Marshalltown Attorney - Jennifer Bonzer | Johnson, Bonzer and Barnaby PLC

Her resume doesn't say anything about representing a defendant charged with murder.

It does say she prosecuted "homicides" for Webster County. Doesn't say what kind of homicides. Vehicular?

 

[Deleted member 227095]

I think these 2 just want their 15 minutes of fame.

Oh boy. Let the pretrial delays and games begin. Hate to be cynical but nothing in the history of either of these 2 atty's indicates they are up to a murder 1 charge. Buckle up.

 

[Sanz]

I believe he left Mexico and came to the United States when he was 16.

I’ve been thinking about him jumping the fence at 16. And I’ve done a bit of research on where he comes from.
The Village and the the area CR was raised and reason he left to illegally enter the United States isn’t surprising.

The second link states his father only makes $10.00 US a day or 188 Pesos. And the family rides donkeys to the corn fields. Much different than driving a Chevy Malibu.

El Guayabillo

School

• Aged 3 to 5 years: 8 do not visit school

• Aged 6 to 11 years: 1 do not visit a school

• Aged 12 to 14 years: 0 do not visit a school

• Aged 15 to 17 years: 17 do visit a school

• Aged 18 to 24 years: 8 do visit a school

15 years and older

• 58 do not have any school degree or at most preschool.

• 51 did visit primary school up to the fifth class (incomplete).

• 45 finished primary school (6 years complete).

• 19 two years at secondary school at least (incomplete).

• 49 three years at secondary school (complete).

El Guayabillo, Guerrero - meximap

Bahena-Rivera’ Family

“The family has remained incommunicado ever since, according to neighbors in El Guayabillo...”

‘They're up early on their donkeys. They're off to work on corn crops. They go back to their home’, Tomasa Zuniga told Univision.’

‘Bahena Rivera's dad, who also milks cows, makes just $10 a day.’

Latino immigrants live in fear in community where Mollie Tibbetts died

 

[DizzyB]

Oh boy. Let the pretrial delays and games begin. Hate to be cynical but nothing in the history of either of these 2 atty's indicates they are up to a murder 1 charge. Buckle up.

I see the attorney did a whole post on WC before he got this case, and mentioned that “the killer” had been caught and it turned out that WC had nothing to do with it. Why he defends, right to fair trial etc. All in reference to WC. He might want to walk back that killer statement.

 

[Al Hoffman]

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[Deleted member 227095]

I think the committee did away with that label and now politely call it "anti-social personality disorder". I was being facetious. There was some discussion of him showing shame in court. I didn't see that.

I looked for some reaction but sadly saw nothing other than a brief change in facial expression around the discussion of DNA by the Judge. I really wonder if he understands what is happening to him? I realize the Judge asked this question of him in open court and he replied that he did understand but can he really understand? Another post spoke to the way of life he had in Mexico but I don't see much in his experience that would make him prepared to process this current experience? Initially I thought being in the US for a period of time might have provided him some knowledge and awareness. But by all accounts he didn't integrate into his local community and didn't seem to acquire much in the way of local language skills. Maybe what we saw in court was complete confusion and possibly terror due to lack of understanding? How did other people read the court appearance?

 

[Al Hoffman]

Her resume doesn't say anything about representing a defendant charged with murder.

It does say she prosecuted "homicides" for Webster County. Doesn't say what kind of homicides. Vehicular?

Slingblade?

 

[Periwinkl3]

I looked for some reaction but sadly saw nothing other than a brief change in facial expression around the discussion of DNA by the Judge. I really wonder if he understands what is happening to him? I realize the Judge asked this question of him in open court and he replied that he did understand but can he really understand? Another post spoke to the way of life he had in Mexico but I don't see much in his experience that would make him prepared to process this current experience? Initially I thought being in the US for a period of time might have provided him some knowledge and awareness. But by all accounts he didn't integrate into his local community and didn't seem to acquire much in the way of local language skills. Maybe what we saw in court was complete confusion and possibly terror due to lack of understanding? How did other people read the court appearance?

 

[The Farm]

I looked for some reaction but sadly saw nothing other than a brief change in facial expression around the discussion of DNA by the Judge. I really wonder if he understands what is happening to him? I realize the Judge asked this question of him in open court and he replied that he did understand but can he really understand? Another post spoke to the way of life he had in Mexico but I don't see much in his experience that would make him prepared to process this current experience? Initially I thought being in the US for a period of time might have provided him some knowledge and awareness. But by all accounts he didn't integrate into his local community and didn't seem to acquire much in the way of local language skills. Maybe what we saw in court was complete confusion and possibly terror due to lack of understanding? How did other people read the court appearance?

Simple, he knows what he did and he knows in this country it is not allowed. This really is not that confusing.