ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 42

[GoBuckeyes]

For them to make an arrest and then make it public, the FBI and police had to have some good evidence before doing so. Regarding how the suspect is connected to the victims. Those are good questions that I am sure we will learn about in the coming days and weeks ahead.

It's maybe also possible that he has no real connection, only that he saw them at the bar that night. (I'm thinking of how Bundy operated.)

 

[Sheila Terranova]

I hear ya. I do wonder if he was invited out somewhere by a fellow student and crossed their paths somewhere. Perhaps he did visit the house at a party once?

Is there much cross-campus social activity between University of Idaho at Moscow and WSU at Pullman? Do they visit each others town to party and socialise much?

Maybe he saw them at the bar or on social media?

 

[arielilane]

Genetic genealogy techniques were used to connect Kohberger to unidentified DNA evidence, another source with knowledge of the case tells CNN. The DNA was run through a public database to find potential family member matches, and subsequent investigative work by law enforcement led to him as the suspect, the source said.

Authorities tracked the Idaho student killings suspect cross-country to Pennsylvania, sources say — CNN

Authorities tracked the man charged in the killings of four Idaho college students all the way to Pennsylvania and surveilled him for several days before finally arresting him on Friday, sources told CNN.

apple.news

 

[samanthadaniels1995]

There's no way he didn't leave his DNA at the crime scene... unless he was wearing a hazmat suit.

It would appear that they did and needed to inorder to charge burglary and murder.
However, if the complexity of identifying it among others delayed the results, then pursuing other evidence that would provide DNA to match up to the crime scene. If Genealogical tests returned results faster, then they still need to verify at the location to confirm a warrant.

 

[Sandy007]

It’s possible that he was planning for this the way he planned for the killings. Rehearsed his lines as a means of control. Keep them on their toes.

If the car is registered to his mum, he may thought she has been arrested, too. LE was looking for the owner of the car as well as its occupants, after all.

 

[kittythehare]

Friend of Idaho murder suspect visibly shakes in TikTok video

Casey Arntz took to TikTok on Friday night and appeared to have been jolted by the news, visibly shaking as she posted pictures of the suspect and her many encounters with him.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I watched her interview on Twitter last night. I didn't find her to be credible/
High school heroin addiction?
Not outside the realm of possibility, I know but bearing in mind his mother is/was a sub teacher, how likely is it?

I thought @Cindizzi link above describing him as late and sleepy might suggest substance use or abuse but that was very many years later.

It's useless speculating, I know.
We don't really know anything about him.
What did he enjoy?
Did he have a partner?
How did he spend his free time?
What exactly made him tick?
What did he personally receive for his alleged massacre?
Where was the gain for him?

I suspect his question regarding whether he was the sole person arrested is part of his well thought out defence, pre-planned...

What else does he have up his sleeve?

Above all
WHY???

 

[Kristin Esq.]

When they said it was only the beginning, now they are in the prosecutorial phase. It just means that the case isn't being completely handed over to the prosecutors and the police take a step back. They are going to continue to look for and gather evidence now that the suspect is in custody. That includes all the search warrants and searches that they have started to conduct - his house, the car, the apartment, electronic devices etc...

MOO

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin

11h
The Celebration of Life for Kaylee Goncalves and Maddie Mogen was incredibly uplifting, according to the NewsNation producer there. Family members and friends spoke— and before leaving— friends left notes about their favorite memories. There was no mention of the arrest.

 

[SMK777]

Sorry if this was brought up before, am having trouble catching up:

I’m wondering about the logistics of it all:

How did he know there was no party activity going on Saturday night November 12 into Sunday the 13th? Did he know KG was back briefly? How did he know the layout of the house? How did the dog respond to him?

What made him think his vehicle wouldn’t be caught on cctv ( it was)? How was he able to return to class after the murders and remain undetected (not looking shell-shocked, no obvious cuts)?

Did he flee to Pennsylvania because word of the white Elantra had been put out? How did he feel comfortable driving the white Elantra 37 hours across country? Did his family have any suspicions, or just fail to make the connection at all ?

 

[Normamsmiley]

It's maybe also possible that he has no real connection, only that he saw them at the bar that night. (I'm thinking of how Bundy operated.)

IMO - there HAS to be a connection for two huge reasons:

1-They have stated it was a targeted attack from the jump.
2-The were quickly able to say it wasn’t connected to a TON of other local crimes that were unsolved.

I believe those two items say that MPD knew immediately that BK went into that house with a very specific motive and agenda relative only to one or more of the victims and had not done this before (or anything like to)

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/Angenette5

Chatted with someone who went to DeSales with Bryan Kohberger. He got his Master's there. This person wanted to remain anonymous. Described as "quiet" and "a bit strange." Didn't remember much more about him.

Monroe Co. District Attorney's Office says arrest of Bryan Kohberger happened around 1:45 a.m. ET. Initial reports said 3 a.m.

 

[donnanj]

I feel like he did this on his own. His surveys were a way to help him figure out how do it. I do not think he ever crossed paths with any of them. He targeted them randomly, maybe a few days before. I do not feel this is his first time killing, although, this was his biggest and most brutal. I think he will talk because he wants the credit for it. He may not talk right away, but, eventually, like Bundy, he will tell all.
MOO

 

[kittythehare]

IMO - there HAS to be a connection for two huge reasons:

1-They have stated it was a targeted attack from the jump.
2-The were quickly able to say it wasn’t connected to a TON of other local crimes that were unsolved.

I believe those two items say that MPD knew immediately that BK went into that house with a very specific motive and agenda relative only to one or more of the victims and had not done this before (or anything like to)

They also stated the actual house could have been the target.

 

[BrownRice]

I’m a professor (not in criminology but in sociology) but I also work in research ethics, and my mouth hit the floor reading his survey questions, posted back in thread #40.

I don’t know how this survey made it through ethical review. It’s just phrased very ‘oddly’, more as someone looking for advice or gory details rather than data, if that makes sense. The questions are really leading in a strange way. At my university, something like this would definitely not have been approved, especially for a student in their first year of a PhD with very little training, as it’s very ethically borderline.

Where I work, we have specific training in how to identify students who may be a risk to themselves or others. This is usually in relation to terrorism or cults, but I can’t imagine his research advisers didn’t notice something that they thought should be flagged up, but didn’t act quick enough in this first semester.

Could be he never submitted for class. Was his own research and never intended to use educationally. Asking questions on Reddit has no value or validity at all! I can only imagine what you professors must think when you read these things.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Sorry if this was brought up before, am having trouble catching up:

I’m wondering about the logistics of it all:

How did he know there was no party activity going on Saturday night November 12 into Sunday the 13th? Did he know KG was back briefly? How did he know the layout of the house? How did the dog respond to him?

What made him think his vehicle wouldn’t be caught on cctv ( it was)? How was he able to return to class after the murders and remain undetected (not looking shell-shocked, no obvious cuts)?

Did he flee to Pennsylvania because word of the white Elantra had been put out? How did he feel comfortable driving the white Elantra 37 hours across country? Did his family have any suspicions, or just fail to make the connection at all ?

We don't have any of this information yet. I'm sure it'll come out in the day and weeks to come.

 

[Mimi in London]

Considering he didn’t own the Elantra and they’re still asking people to come forward with information about that night, it seems as though they are still investigating, rather than tidying up. I’m intrigued.

Edit:
I mean, if there were others involved, now is when they would apply pressure to get him to flip, right?

I wonder whether others were unwittingly involved. Just say his folks were in Pullman for WSU family weekend, with their car. And he ‘borrowed’ the car during the night. He remains in town while, next day, the car is driven (not by him) all the way across the country.

 

[BrownRice]

Not sure if this has been posted before, but here’s an inside view of his family home in Albrightsville. It’s very modest. Last sold in 2014.

119 Lamsden Dr, Albrightsville, PA 18210 | realtor.com®

View 36 photos for 119 Lamsden Dr, Albrightsville, PA 18210, a 3 bed, 2 bath, 1,332 Sq. Ft. single family home built in 1991 that was last sold on 11/25/2014.

www.realtor.com

That’s actually a great house. Lots of potential.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Oh my!!! Is that really a thing in the USA?

I'm sure a lot of people don't like that. We may as well all submit our fingerprints to the police when we turn 18 and be done with it.

I do see that the US Constitution doesn't have a 'right to privacy' unlike the 'right to free speech' and the 'right to bear arms'.

I'm not criticism, just surprise.

MOO.

In my district you have to get fingerprinted and checked to be an officer in the sports boosters (parent volunteer organization) or to even be a part time clerical worker in the school.

 

[Sandy007]

IMO - there HAS to be a connection for two huge reasons:

1-They have stated it was a targeted attack from the jump.
2-The were quickly able to say it wasn’t connected to a TON of other local crimes that were unsolved.

I believe those two items say that MPD knew immediately that BK went into that house with a very specific motive and agenda relative only to one or more of the victims and had not done this before (or anything like to)

3-they eliminated a bunch of likely suspects or suspiciously acting guys (the hoody guy) in no time and were pretty sure the guy they were looking for is not someone from the inner circle of the girls.

I am going back to what Maddie stepfather said a week ago: the killer made a mistake at the murder scene and because of that mistake he will be found. What he had in mind?

 

[Alethea]

IMO - there HAS to be a connection for two huge reasons:

1-They have stated it was a targeted attack from the jump.
2-The were quickly able to say it wasn’t connected to a TON of other local crimes that were unsolved.

I believe those two items say that MPD knew immediately that BK went into that house with a very specific motive and agenda relative only to one or more of the victims and had not done this before (or anything like to)

Not necessarily. They said it was "targetted" on day 1 based on the nature of the crime (a very personal, up-close, violent stabbing) but then walked it back as they seemed to eliminate suspects.

They may have been able to quickly rule out a connection to other crimes if there was DNA from both scenes and they didn't match, which appears to be the case.

I think this is going to end up being a psycho spree killer who would have become a serial killer if he got away with it. I think we'll learn the surveillance tape of the Hyundai was the key investigative lead. You just can't get away with crimes like you used to with CCTV everywhere (both personal and professional use).