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So Kaylee was said to be a web sleuth...
This Bryan character was a criminologist major....
This Bryan character was a criminologist major....
IMO: No doubt that he is going to enjoy the show. This is his Phase 2 of the crime -torturing the families, friends, and social group in general. And, continuing to demonstrate his “knowledge and skills”. I am certain that he is “eager” for this performance.Of course we can't be sure, but I also don't know if he can feel shame or embarrassment.
Just from what we can glean so far, I think he possibly may feel anger and disgust that his "perfect crime" failed insofar as he didn't get away with it.
I think he would internalize that, though, and perhaps not allow it to show. Maybe he would just sit through a trial without visible affect.
I'm basing this on his steely-eyed appearance when he received his diploma. I've handed out many a graduation diploma on stage, and rarely have I seen such lack of eye contact and lack of enthusiasm from a student. He did mutter "thank you" with pursed lips.
Also, his alleged “blank stare” when arrested, despite what I’d presume would be chaos in his family at that moment.
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IMO: No doubt that he is going to enjoy the show. This is his Phase 2 of the crime -torturing the families, friends, and social group in general. And, continuing to demonstrate his “knowledge and skills”. I am certain that he is “eager” for this performance.Bringing over from the previous thread
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Sounds like BK is claiming innocence and planning to mount a vigorous defense.
I am sorry. The discussion was closed so I just copied everything and am posting it here. Hope it is not a horrible deviation from the "forum finesse".
I doubt. This guy, BK, has thought about many things. (I think he was, ultimately, a loner, so had to rely on own car, and that was a mistake).
I think he tried to put ten degrees of separation between himself and the victims.
I would not be surprised if he targeted several houses with single women around, but maybe chose the one that had no cameras. JMO - one wonders if what made him leave was the presence of a man as killing a man was unplanned.
I would be incredibly surprised if he had a live helper. His "others" would probably mean, either his family, or an online group, or just serve as the way to deflect.
I would not be surprised if he tries to turn "others" into "voices" in his head, pretending incapable to stand the trial, but his meticulous planning and behavior after the murders indicates that he understood what he was doing, the consequences and the choice.
He is a hedonistic murderer who did it for self-satisfaction, thinking of no one, even own parents, and the sooner he is extradited to Idaho, the better.
Again, good luck and happy NY to MPD, Idaho police, FBI, pathologists, journalists, and everyone involved in this hard case. Happy NY to Pennsylvania police, too.
Best of luck to the relatives of the victims, may they all stay healthy and resilient in the forthcoming year, and may their immense courage stay with them.
I have a feeling he listens to the True Crime BSPodcast…Thanks @NeverPersonal Kohberger's darkness reminds me so much of Israel Keyes. From your link:
"'I suspect that Kohberger was well aware of his dark nature and homicidal ideation and endeavored to discover more about himself through his studies,' said Enzo Yaksic, a criminal profiler and founder of the Atypical Homicide Research Group in Boston, in an email to DailyMail.com.
'But pursuing an advanced degree to become a better murderer is a foolhardy exercise,' he added, 'as nothing more is learned about such tactics and strategies than can be found on a popular podcast or true crime book.
'If Kohberger is an aspiring serial murderer who desired to commit the perfect murder, he quickly learned what many have discovered in the modern-age: it is far more difficult to get away with serial killing today than when Ted Bundy was active.'
I don’t understand the attorneys point when he refers to where BK was that night since they likely have data showing the border of Idaho/Washington. What does that mean and why would he say this in an interview with a reporter? Why would he even ask that Q? He won’t be defending BK in a murder trial. Confused.![]()
Lawyer of Idaho slayings suspect discusses extradition
Public defender Jason LaBar discusses the case against his client.www.kktv.com
His new photos do have that look.I wonder if BK has a history of spice use? His age group had to face spice in their teens. I hear it has been said there was a heroin thing but personally I'm more inclined to think it was spice. I would bet heroin use among teenagers was very uncommon, especially in small town PA, back in say 2010. I bet you could get spice at every corner c-store though. My opinion.
Shaving his body, you wrote. Many people here commented that the DNA could be his hair falling on one of the victims.I think the profilers and internet speculators are missing the mark here on this guy. I think there’s something that separates him from your usual suspects that will make this a relatively quiet conclusion. Feel free to skip down to my TLDR for my quick summary take.
Like other killers BK likely put time into physical preparation and planning. Enhanced by all that he knew about the criminal justice system. Likely surveilling and watching. Noticing surroundings, lighting. Shaving body. Carefully selecting clothing. Having disposal means and location of clothing and weapon. Wrapped his feet etc. Knowing that the use of a knife would point to someone in the inner circle. Likely left red herrings behind.
But BK recognized something else that most other killers don’t recognize. The importance of mental preparation and conditioning. And I think it’s likely he thought this would give him an advantage.
He recognized that as soon as he walked through that sliding door he would lose control. And that no matter how much work he did to prepare…there was no way he could anticipate what would happen in that house. So he did his homework and prepared mentally. He recognized that killers make mistakes in the moment because of unanticipated feelings, thoughts, reactions to unanticipated victim behavior…and he tried to account for all of that with the survey. I’m not sure I’ve read about anything like this before with any other killers. This level of mental work. And I bet he thought this would be what would separate him from other killers who were caught.
By all indicators he had been preparing for that moment for years. Laid out what he thought was the perfect plan. A plan informed by his studies, studies that would surely propel him to the highest academic achievement you can receive in his chosen field.
This is a person who seemed to beat addiction by becoming ruthlessly disciplined. Focused all of his energy into his studies (and as a result this crime). There are not many indications that he was operating by instinct like other killers people here keep comparing him to.
All of that just for me to say that he flipped the 50/50 murder coin and failed. He acknowledged and accounted for the unanticipated moments where others didnt. He was a few years from being at the academic pinnacle in his field. and he FAILED.
If this was a Dunning Kruger suffering narcissist who operated most out of instinct and his likely above average (but overestimated on his part) intelligence I’d agree and say …”ya, this guy is going to make a big spectacle at trial on in some grandiose confession” but I don’t think this is that guy.
I think BK is ashamed, confused, embarrassed and likely doesn’t want to relive or face the reality of any of his failed plan. If he doesn’t plead guilty to avoid the death penalty and coming to terms with his failure (and his family and friends learning first hand of it). He’ll sit there in his chair during trial and not utter a word. We’ll likely never hear his side of the story.
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TLDR; BK invested a lot of time and energy into planning. And they still caught him. He’ll go out ashamed and with a whimper.
Just out of curiosity……
Does anyone else think it’s highly likely that one of the other criminology PHD students (only 8 miles and 10-15 minute drive from the murders)…. Could have been who initially tipped off LE to BK as possible suspect?
I mean I’d hope that the professor and other criminology PHD students had a discussion in class about the horrific murders that took place just 8 miles away at neighboring university. I’d think this is something those students would discuss and that they themselves would be invested in trying to find who committed the murders.
Yes. It’s a perfunctory exercise where the only issue is whether he is, in fact, the individual named in Idaho’s warrant. If he fights it, the governor can approve it and he’ll be sent to Idaho.Is it a given that BK will be extradited to ID? What obstacles could come about?
That one had no posts previously, it’s fake.This thread is moving WAY too fast to keep up but Glumlibrarian & Normancita pointed this out & I concur that it’s his REAL Instagram account in his full name bc of 10/8 posting of 1994 Beastie Boys song “Sabotage” in video.
Did he add his own mix of that graphic violence?
He is following Maddie btw- so yikes.
Well, there is probably little need to worry about her dad's comment, because if there is a connection the defense will surely figure it outI hope BK’s defense doesn’t use SG’s comment of a “connection” between the two as an explanation for his DNA being at the house. Her dad is grieving, and I can’t even begin to imagine what he is going through, but not sure comments like these will help the case.
The threads are moving so fast that this is sort of old news now (lol), but going back to the link to the frat house and parties. I’m a TA myself, and the joke around my department is that once you become a TA, you immediately lose access to any bar known as an undergrad hotspot. I’m not a bar frequenter myself, but apparently seeing your TA sucks the life right out the room . That lengthy diatribe is just to say, not really sure BK would have frequented a lot of undergrad frat soirées and met the victims there. MOO.
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Idaho victim's father says she had CONNECTIONS to suspected killer
Steve Goncalves, father of Kaylee, 21, said his family has found connections between the University of Idaho student and suspect Bryan Kohberger, who was arrested on Friday.www.dailymail.co.uk
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Agree for the most partDoes anyone else think he will give a full confession next week once he is presented with the evidence that will prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? He will be spared the death penalty and avoid dragging his parents through a long drawn out trial that will be painful and embarrassing. I think he will be rather proud to tell his story before America although he will avoid revealing the more painful and ego-bruising aspects he's been suppressing his whole life. I think he will plead guilty and spend the rest of his days working on his memoirs that no one will read or be interested in.
I am the person that person was replying to, and yes cell phone data was what I had in mind rather than car based GPS.
I wonder if this guy is talking. Yes, acted alone is something that can be based on countless things, but he could be a talker. He’s done.
Well, agree with your points about evidence. But, sadly, I think BK got exactly what he really wanted. Getting away would have just been gravy (IMO)IMHO Well, for all the smart, controlled, deliberate, premeditated, extensive planning that likely went into BK's tragic crime, he managed to somehow leave his DNA behind, possibly be seen in his car leaving scene, and driving over 2000 miles (while being watched by LE). Rule number 1 When committing a crime one is likely to intentionally/unintentionally LEAVE BEHIND evidence and TAKE AWAY evidence.
Big question is why he did it. We may never know but hopefully he will never see sunsets again.
Big win for LE and Big zero for BK