ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 17

[Allabouttrial]

agree that everything should be taken with a pinch of salt.

here's the original interview

the question is at 2.52 mins

Snipped from the transcript. This is what they had to say with regard to a stalker.

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Reporter - This question of a stalker and I'm very conscious with this story of how many rumours have been circulating and a lot of those rumours turn out not to be true but, S, this discussion of the possibility she may have had a stalker - have police been able to stand that up or not?. They seem to be knocking that down.

Sister - Yeah, it seems to be knocked down. Obviously, any of that information would be new to us as well. Kaylee facetimed me, she didn't call of text, she facetimed me for literally hours, almost every single day. And she was extremely cautious, she was very vigilant. I think that if she really would've noticed something, then she would have said it to us. She wan't scared for us to be involved in her life in any capacity like that.

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Reporter - Are they contacting you at all?. Are they keeping you updated, more so than they are than on the website or with these press briefings?

Dad - To be honest, they're not. Yesterday, I asked about the stalker question and they couldn't confirm anything and then today I hear they're reaching out to the community saying that there's a stalker involved. So, I don't know what to make of that.

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Sister - And honestly, I think a lot of those rumours stem from all of the vagueness and it's human nature to want answers. It's human nature to, kind of, put forth a theory so that it can.. you can even comprehend it in your brain and so I think that's how we're getting some of these really, really off the wall theories and some of these theories like - Kaylee had a stalker that even we're sitting here, scratching our heads saying 'no, it couldn't be'. If it was it would be news to us.

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[Saquish]

KG’s Dad just confirmed contrary to LE that she had a stalker and she was targeted. <modsnip - misstates what the father said>

Idaho college murders: Slain student's father says she had stalker

Murdered University of Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves told her dad and friends she had a stalker — but authorities have been unable to verify the reports.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Notthisshipsister]

Is it possible that the killer didn't sneak in but instead came into the house with one of the students on some pretext? Someone they knew, that they wouldn't feel threatened by bringing them in. Perhaps someone they met while out that evening, someone they might have known from a class and maybe they asked to borrow a textbook or whatever... "sure, we're just going home, come with us and I'll give it to you".
JMOO

 

[TheBorez]

I really think people have misunderstood ‘the house was the target.’
I did not take this as a change from ‘one of the people were the target.’
What LE were trying to convey with ‘the house’ message was, this person is highly unlikely to target another house, he was targeting this house I.e. someone in this house.
I don’t think there has been a change with what they’re saying, just a change of wording to try and calm the public.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Now the head prosecutor Bill Thompson is saying that maybe the house was the target, and not necessarily any particular individual or individuals. Interesting why he's now throwing that out there. And LE has the initial 911 that they can always release if they reach a dead end on leads. The fact they still haven't released it yet tells me that they are hot on the trail.

Nope, per this a person.
NEW: I just interviewed @LatahCountyID prosecuting attorney Bill Thompson.

He confirmed that one of the victims in the home was in fact the target.

He also said he’s confident they are going to find out who did this & hold them accountable.

Tune in to @KTVB at 4 for his intvw

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598035885408546816

 

[dub]

I have posted many times on here my theory about the perp and have never wavered from that thought:

• Male
• Aged 18-30
• Lives in the area - may not live in Moscow but close by
• First murders of humans they have committed
• Did not have a specific plan in mind that night other than to kill his target
• Knew at least one of the victims casually; likely not in their direct social circle
• Had been to the home at least once and had studied it's layout
• Was obsessed and/or angry with one victim in particular - have always thought KG or MM - due to some perceived wrong they 'committed' against him
• Likely source of this perceived wrong was unrequited love or affection meaning he loved them but they didn't back
• May not have directly stalked target but did so indirectly through social media and probably did so obsessively

I think all of these points are somewhere between plausible and likely, except I do not think he had studied the layout of the house from the inside—I think he had probably never been inside, or if he had been it was very brief.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

From yesterday- not sure it’s been shared.

"... We really want videos and pictures from the night of that might help us get a better picture of maybe who was there and who wasn’t there, those types of ideas," @ISPHeadquarters Communications Director Aaron Snell told me today.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597853040169848832

 

[BeckyF]

Does anyone think the FBI will post this case on the FBI 10 most wanted list if it goes unsolved for another couple of weeks? I’m not sure what criteria is used for this to be done.

 

[Emerald1328]

Nope, per this a person.
NEW: I just interviewed @LatahCountyID prosecuting attorney Bill Thompson.

He confirmed that one of the victims in the home was in fact the target.

He also said he’s confident they are going to find out who did this & hold them accountable.

Tune in to @KTVB at 4 for his intvw

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598035885408546816

Brian is going to get to the bottom of the reversal of the reversal haha.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598058064594468864

 

[Saquish]

Am I the only one that finds it strange that they keep talking about searching for the weapon used in the murders? Why would the killer leave the knife?

 

[TheBorez]

I am getting so frustrated with this ‘house was the target’ v ‘person in the house was the target.’
Both mean exactly the same thing. Unless of course we have a new brand of killer who only targets homes with three stories, 2 balconies and sliding doors? Killers don’t target residences, they target people.
LE have been clear, there was a target. This also makes total sense, the majority of crimes of this nature have a target and the target isn’t a ‘house’ it’s a ‘person,’

 

[Balthazar]

Does anyone find it strange the police have not mentioned the apartment building to the left of the girls house? Maybe they have and I missed it.

For me it’s just odd it hasn’t been discussed more.

The fact that there is a substantial sized apartment building, primarily one - two bedrooms… with the best access to the dead end road behind the house, also has best indoor Birds Eye view of the home….

I believe they are called queens road apartments. 500 queens road.

The killer could have easily stalked the girls, learned their routines and been able to enter and leave the home unseen. Given the coverage behind the house and to the apartment building.

I’m attaching Google images for you to tell me your thoughts.

If I were an investigator… I’d want information on everyone and their friends who live in this building.

Did you notice these apartments are “under new management?” I wonder if the manager lives on site?

 

[eyesopen]

Now the head prosecutor Bill Thompson is saying that maybe the house was the target, and not necessarily any particular individual or individuals. Interesting why he's now throwing that out there. And LE has the initial 911 that they can always release if they reach a dead end on leads. The fact they still haven't released it yet tells me that they are hot on the trail.

I highly doubt the 911 call would produce any leads. MOO

 

[Balthazar]

I am getting so frustrated with this ‘house was the target’ v ‘person in the house was the target.’
Both mean exactly the same thing. Unless of course we have a new brand of killer who only targets homes with three stories, 2 balconies and sliding doors? Killers don’t target residences, they target people.
LE have been clear, there was a target. This also makes total sense, the majority of crimes of this nature have a target and the target isn’t a ‘house’ it’s a ‘person,’

If the house was the target would the goal to be to get rid of the house so someone could buy the lot cheap and build bigger rental or apartments as the lot is big enough for multi units? Because who would rent this house now? And it does have a large lot compared to neighboring properties. There is no evidence of this that we know of thus far yet the flip flopping about who or what the target is makes me wonder.

 

[isabella88]

I am getting so frustrated with this ‘house was the target’ v ‘person in the house was the target.’
Both mean exactly the same thing. Unless of course we have a new brand of killer who only targets homes with three stories, 2 balconies and sliding doors? Killers don’t target residences, they target people.
LE have been clear, there was a target. This also makes total sense, the majority of crimes of this nature have a target and the target isn’t a ‘house’ it’s a ‘person,’

With all respect, if one person there was the target, I'd be pretty upset being collateral damage to a personal vendetta. If the house was the target, then it's all chance/collateral for all 4.

 

[mayhem911]

Vigil for the four victims is at 8 eastern today in Idaho.

 

[tara83]

With all respect, if one person there was the target, I'd be pretty upset being collateral damage to a personal vendetta. If the house was the target, then it's all chance/collateral for all 4.

Especially since 2 days ago he said that they don't have evidence one person was targeted and now says one person was the target.

 

[TheBorez]

With all respect, if one person there was the target, I'd be pretty upset being collateral damage to a personal vendetta. If the house was the target, then it's all chance/collateral for all 4.

What do you mean by ‘the house was the target’ - You mean they were targeting four out of six of the people who lived in the home?
It has been clear from all LE releases that they believe there was a target for the killings. In one interview the word residence replaced person, in the context of trying to calm the community. What they were saying was, someone in this home was the target, they are unlikely to attack your home.

 

[Jr Sleuth]

I think the dog was probably used to a lot of people coming and going if he stayed there often tbh. But someone hiding within the house somewhere may elicit something from the dog for sure.

I believe the killer was in the victims inner circle and very familiar with the house and dog, therefore the dog never barked. I think K and/or M were targeted. Unfortunately, E and X were in the way of the killer's exit from the house.

 

[isabella88]

What do you mean by ‘the house was the target’ - You mean they were targeting four out of six of the people who lived in the home?
It has been clear from all LE releases that they believe there was a target for the killings. In one interview the word residence replaced person, in the context of trying to calm the community. What they were saying was, someone in this home was the target, they are unlikely to attack your home.

I mean the house was the target like the Manson case. So if you don't live there, your home won't be attacked. I'm not saying that's what happened but it's possible, IMO. The house could have been the target and for some reason the surviving roommates were unreachable. Locked door?