Oh! Can you please link that interview?Xana’s mom said in a recent interview that she feels one of the victims or all the victims was close to the killer and knew them.
Do you feel these murder victims truly knew the Killer or killers?
good idea but.....
will the university pass any rosters to LE?
(Does the university even take rosters?)
Just asking, because this link came up on the last thread but didn't get a lot of attention
Link: 'the school has "specific privacy concerns.'
Link doesn't answer the questions I just asked but is related to the topic of which university rules mean that they cannot pass personal info on their students.
Does anybody know which rule or privacy law this might be?
Idaho murders: University not formally tracking which students are not returning to campus
Idaho State Police spokesperson Aaron Snell says the University of Idaho has "specific privacy concerns" regarding information of students not returning to campus.www.yahoo.com
I think either the killer came prepared with a bag of clothes to change into and/or showered. If the police did find traces of blood or footprints they haven't mentioned as far as I know. They did take away all of the contents of a couple dumpsters for examination. Good question about checking the drains for blood, that is done quite often and has yielded important case solving dna in other cases. Don't know if the Moscow Police did so though. God forbid if who committed the murders was a member of LE--that'd be the most horrible worst case scenario IMO! Let's hope that isn't the case.I am wondering if the police on the first night followed any footsteps? How could someone kill 4 people with a huge hunting knife and and not have a considerable amount of blood on themself. And could they have changed their clothes in the house and or showered? I havent heard anything about checknig drains for blood. And if they changed their clothes did police go thru the garbage cans and dumpstsers to see if there were any blood clothes in them? It just doesnst seem like they were very proactive in the beginning. And I hope they havent ruled out that the person who commited this crime could be involved in law enforcement. I have watched enough ID shows to know this does happen and should be overlooked. And how do we know there wasnt another person? Not for certain but its only been revealed there was 1 weapon the knife and I believe they can tell if the knife wounds are consistent by depth, angle, which hand etc.to know it was done by 1 person.
We were all super confused earlier, so that’s why I transcribed it. Here’s the full video
*He’s criticizing LE decisions and seeming misstatements in his opinion.
Kaylee Goncalves' parents hunt for answers 3 weeks after college student slayings | Fox News Video
Steve and Kristi Goncalves speak with Fox News' Lawrence Jones to discuss the ongoing investigation from Moscow, Idaho.www.foxnews.com
I’m not sure what he is trying to say. Odd wording. “Means” to me says “method” but that would take me down a whole new path…coupled with “he didn’t have to go upstairs” Maybe because the object of his attack was on the middle floor? I’m clueless. JMO"I'll cut to the chase – their means of death don't match." Kaylee's father, Steven Goncalves, told "Lawrence Jones Cross Country" on Saturday evening.
When Jones asked if Goncalves was specifically discussing the deaths of his daughter and Mogen, Goncalves repeated: "They don't match."
"Their points of damage don't match," he continued. "I'm just going to say it. It wasn't leaked to me. I earned that. I paid for that funeral. … I sent my daughter to college. She came back in a box, and I can speak on that."
Idaho murders: Kaylee Goncalves' parents say victims' 'means of death don't match'
Steven Goncalves, father of deceased University of Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves, told Fox News on Saturday that Kaylee's and Madison Mogen's 'means of death don't match.'www.foxnews.com
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Sounds like he is saying it’s two suspects.
Jmo
The University must legally keep student records private. The school cannot decide to be cooperative and give up those records to LE.
It takes a warrant signed by a judge to get records obtained from the school.
Would a judge sign a search warrant to reveal personal info on students to LE because LE thinks those that stay home could be suspects?
No, I do not believe a judge would sign such a warrant.
The possible info gained must be weighed against the consequences.
The expectation of privacy between a student and university is Huge.
Student records contain: legal names, birth dates, home address, social security numbers, credit card info, grade transcripts, vaccination records, family tax info for financial aid.
Why would student records have less an expectation of privacy than anyone’s health records, or employment records?
Is there any logical reason we could conclude those students that stayed home would be more likely to be a suspect? No.
Is there any evidence the perp is even a student? Not that we know.
JMO
The university stated they would not share that info with LEgood idea but.....
will the university pass any rosters to LE?
(Does the university even take rosters?)
Just asking, because this link came up on the last thread but didn't get a lot of attention
Link: 'the school has "specific privacy concerns.'
Link doesn't answer the questions I just asked but is related to the topic of which university rules mean that they cannot pass personal info on their students.
Does anybody know which rule or privacy law this might be?
Idaho murders: University not formally tracking which students are not returning to campus
Idaho State Police spokesperson Aaron Snell says the University of Idaho has "specific privacy concerns" regarding information of students not returning to campus.www.yahoo.com
thanks very much.
so going back to the original post about ' rosters' of classes ( rather than the link about mass sharing of names of absent students)
scenario
Do you think that , for example, if during the course of the investigation, LE are told by students that there's ' a guy called Josh, but I don't know his last name but in one of the lectures there was trouble between him and a victim etc etc ...' that LE wouldn't be able to get a judge to sign a warrant to get the university to disclose Josh's surname, after other LE searches for that surname had come up dry?
agreed, that's why I linked to the article saying that the Univ said they would not.The university stated they would not share that info with LE
Good point. Yes, the uni has rosters but subpoenas might need to be issued for LE to access them -- I expect this would fall under some aspect of FERPA though I am not certain.good idea but.....
will the university pass any rosters to LE?
(Does the university even take rosters?)
Just asking, because this link came up on the last thread but didn't get a lot of attention
Link: 'the school has "specific privacy concerns.'
Link doesn't answer the questions I just asked but is related to the topic of which university rules mean that they cannot pass personal info on their students.
Does anybody know which rule or privacy law this might be?
Idaho murders: University not formally tracking which students are not returning to campus
Idaho State Police spokesperson Aaron Snell says the University of Idaho has "specific privacy concerns" regarding information of students not returning to campus.www.yahoo.com
That’s been there for a long time.At the very end of the Brian Entin video from tonight, after the 3 officials go in the house and close the door, you can see several little pieces of red "evidence tape" on the left side of the door towards the top. I hadn't noticed that before. Potentially someone tried to push the door in? Hmmm
I respectfully disagree. I have an annoying-to-me unconscious pro-LE bias, but I also know several of the professionals involved & have known some of them for a very long time.
I use the word “professionals” very intentionally.
I would be shocked & deeply disappointed if any of them violated their professional ethics in that way.
JMVHO & fervent hope!
"they didn't have to go upstairs" I think what he's trying to say is that they only had to go upstairs if that is where the primary target was. It certainly could be the opposite, but the way he said it and context tells me it's the former. If his words are a little clunky, keep in mind, he's not a professional public speaker. There's a danger in trying to overanalyze the words of non-professional speakers. We do that a lot here and are often surprised to find we completely get it wrong.I’m not sure what he is trying to say. Odd wording. “Means” to me says “method” but that would take me down a whole new path…coupled with “he didn’t have to go upstairs” Maybe because the object of his attack was on the middle floor? I’m clueless. JMO
Good point. Yes, the uni has rosters but subpoenas might need to be issued for LE to access them -- I expect this would fall under some aspect of FERPA though I am not certain.
Anger and bargaining are both stages of grief. If LE doesn't want to keep parent grievers informed, they get what they get.
My opinion.