ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 25

[CeeMDubs]

Thanks for the link. I'd missed her saying the bit in bold above.
Although she doesn't say that in the interview clip at your post, do you recall if she said that in another interview? ( Am just interested in this neighbour's camera and also that it implies that the neighbour and Alivea spoke, after the killing/shared the footage)

I think I remember her saying it was caught on the neighbors camera, but that was the only clip I found (although I didn’t go through all of them.) So I will say JMO until I find a clip

 

[everybodhi]

Thanks for clarifying, ( but I knew the far right was a police car ) No worries it gets confusing responding to other's posts that were quoted and I errantly quoted you instead of the member you quoted.I apologize again.

Yes, my original post wasn’t about the black Ford, it was about which car is the RR and then I was asked about the black car seen in that photo.
I can totally see how it got confused.
It did inspire me to find a clear photo of all the cars though, so that’s done.

 

[WildWest]

in my state most of our college town homes are older buildings also. A lot older than i think this was actually.

Yes, aged is like down to the 1950's or older being aged in Colo and WY I too consider that house newer considering the additions. I don't know the building codes there but I'd bet they are lax compared to other places.

 

[WildWest]

Yes, my original post wasn’t about the black Ford, it was about which car is the RR and then I was asked about the black car seen in that photo.
I can totally see how it got confused.
It did inspire me to find a clear photo of all the cars though, so that’s done.

gotcha, I think we all know the police car is a police car and not one that was towed for evidence

 

[Snoop Sister]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1601138960109117440

Yes, I kind of wondered about that report myself.

 

[cottonweaver]

I’ve been looking and can’t find anything explaining why they think it’s a Ka-Bar, does anyone know? That’s very specific, and a little ambiguous at the same time. Ka-Bar is a brand, not a style of knife. I’m guessing they’re referring to the KB USMC Fighting Knife like you’re describing, that’s what most would associate them with I suspect, but they also make hunting, camping, and bushcraft knives. Depending on what made them specifically say Ka-Bar, I think that could tell them a lot about this person’s background and/or interests.

various local supply stores said that LE had been 'specifically asking * ' store owners for recent purchases of Kabar or kabab style. One quoted store owner told local reporters wtte of - no we don't stock that knife or versions of it, we stock knives for purposes you described
Yes the inference was that this was KB USMC Fighting Knife

( this * will come on via a Google search or a WS search, as well as the denial from LE)

 

[cottonweaver]

I think I remember her saying it was caught on the neighbors camera, but that was the only clip I found (although I didn’t go through all of them.) So I will say JMO until I find a clip

thank you
any such footage would be of great value to LE ( eg K being captured letting the dog out, locking-up that night, only reason am asking.

Yes I'll stick with....Alivea was talking about what she believes was K's routine ( unless we find more)

 

[cottonweaver]

Yes, I kind of wondered about that report myself.

How annoying!

So it's back to being caught between two sources of inaccurate reporting, all over again?


edited to add
this is what we spent about 20 thread pages on yesterday:

'A neighbor of four slain University of Idaho students whose shocking stabbing deaths remain unsolved nearly four weeks later claimed they saw the front door wide open hours after the slayings.The neighbor told Fox News this week that the front door – which opens to the level where two other roommates were unharmed – was wide open around 8:30 a.m. on Nov. 13.' reporter Michael Ruiz, Fox.
( ps nothing more at the link)

Idaho murders: Slain university students' neighbor says front door left wide open after attacks

A neighbor of four slain University of Idaho students killed in their sleep claims that they saw the victims' front door wide open hours after the slayings.

www.foxnews.com

will go & see exactly what the Chief said to the Daily Mail's reporter regarding this Fox report ( the ' it's news to me' link)

 

[IceCreamSundae]

Yes, I kind of wondered about that report myself.

So back to the slider:back window, which makes a LOT more sense.

 

[everybodhi]

Chief Fry must be sick of our crap but continues to address questions with grace and no sign of animosity. Jmo.
Here, he addresses the body cam footage in reference to the white car. Again.
Because putting out an official statement saying that incident isn’t related to the murders fell on deaf ears.

0:42 Interviewer: this body cam image and the white car is this the white car investigators are looking for?

0:48 Fry: so the body cam image that is out there from an officer who was on a call with an alcohol offense does have a white vehicle in it, this is not the vehicle we are looking for so we want to clear that up with the news media.

 

[cottonweaver]

local reporter's editorial on this case - 3 snippets from the link

How Journalists Are Not 'Seeking the Truth and Reporting It' with UI Homicides

Reporters are supposed to find the news, tease out rumor and innuendo to report facts; but too many reporters covering the story are using rumor as the basics of their stories. Too many are using words like “terrible” and “horrifying” in their work. I’m sorry, but: Duh. Of course the story is...

spokanefavs.com

' many reporters, sent here from across the country, are desperate for anything new to say. In that desperation, they are reaching a bit too far......'

'Reporters are supposed to find the news, tease out rumor and innuendo to report facts; but too many reporters covering the story are using rumor as the basics of their stories......'

'Talking to students is one angle many reporters are pursuing, but why stop with students and administrators? Why not also talk with faculty, staff and townspeople? Or also chat with people at Washington State University? They, too, are deeply impacted by the crime.

Rather than spinning their wheels in the rumor mill, why don’t the reporters look at campus security in general – not just UI, but around the country? All campuses must do annual audits of safety and security for students. These are available to the public. Are there trends?'

 

[Sachi]

I had mentioned Lewiston in an earlier thread because I saw that when LE gave out the coordinates, they did not square off the grid but extended the east side, 95s, about a mile past the intersection with Palouse River Dr. When you plot it out, it looked like an arrow pointing south.

I followed it down to Lewiston and came to the Memorial Bridge over the Clearwater River which looks like a wonderful place to dispose of bloody clothes and sharp knives.

When LE put out the 3:00 am to 6:00 am timeline for which they would like ring or other camera footage and reports of unusual activity, I thought perhaps they had a vehicle coming and going on 95s. That river is about an hour from Moscow so you could drive down a very rural road, in the wee hours of a Sunday morning, and would see very few vehicles. You could throw your discriminatory evidence off the bridge and be back well within the 3 hour time frame.

That is just one of the many and varied theories that have floated through my head since this very sordid and perplexing case came to light.

This. your posts- no fluff, no flex - professional and highly informative! Thank you OldCop

 

[everybodhi]

How annoying!

So it's back to being caught between two sources of inaccurate reporting, all over again. ( Mail & Fox)

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[Susan A]

You guys, this Dad is not supposed to know how LE works. He's not supposed to be acting rationally or doing anything that we might deem normal. His entire internal self is has gone haywire. NOt saying he is crazy but in times of grief, we do not process info like we should. We can short circuit. If it were me, I'd prob be hospitalized by now, tbh.
Ima say we need to give this poor soul some grace. Questioning his judgment, judging what he says, remarks about what he might do next make me personally very uncomfortable. Our role is not to judge

I love how he talks about the vehicle, like no big deal! I feel like there’s some psychology behind this, as if they know the owner is not going to come forward but maybe someone who knows the owner will come forward if they make it sound very nonchalant.

Just wanting to talk to the individuals who were in that vehicle…
They may have some valuable information for us

MOO

I immediately felt the same way. “No biggie, asking for a friend” sort of thing. No urgency. Def nonchalant.
I feel there’s a flurry of activity and just makes me think LE has the first glimmer of hope.
Re nighttime visit of 2 vehicles of plainclothes LE at the house…does anyone know when this was and how long they were in the house?

 

[Fascinated1]

Question for those regularly looking at the MPD daily police reports—I looked today and noticed that all of 2022 up to 11/9 is missing-is that new? Wondering if it was recently taken down.

 

[LAHOLLA]

yes we can agree to disagree. I am using facts and the higher probability, given the many many calls were not from one of the victims, but at last two, and around 2 am. and police have already said they do not have a record of regular calls to 911 from that house.
And we know from studies of violent crime victims that they very often feel something is off or have an interaction or notice something before an attack and do not call the cops. so yes, I think they both were making all those calls because of something that happened, subtle or overt that presaged this, and they noticed. Even if as young adults, the data show they were least likely to call cops.

If this were the case I think we would also see calls to other friends, other roommates. Not one guy.

 

[Susan A]

Is the black SUV Kaylees new Range Rover?

No

 

[Sunny Texas]

ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 24

My screenshot of this where you could still see the cars was from 12-5-22. So basically this blurring occurred between 12-5-22 and 12-7-22. I agree the license plates are often though not always blurred but I agree, mostly - I base this on looking through various houses in my neighborhood and...

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"...the Sigma Chi fraternity house...is less than a 600-foot walk away"

 

[Susan A]

Did you notice those officers were trying to hide their faces and I don’t blame them. I can’t imagine being a detective and seeing the stuff that they see.

Also as one officer was getting into the van, he was obviously did not want to open the side sliding door all the way. He very purposely opened the door so he could barely get in. Wondering if someone was waiting in the van that could be identifiable or did not want to be identified?

 

[LAHOLLA]

I think they would have at least left a message if they were scared at the time of the call. Or called someone else or 911.

Or texted something like, "answer the phone, I'm freaked out" instead of texting, "we share a dog"...