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I completely agree with you. This will require long term trauma recovery treatment.SleepySleuth —I agree. I think they’re totally innocent and are going to be scarred for the rest of their lives. Also, theoretically speaking, they may have made it a habit to lock their door while they slept and that could have been enough to keep him away, slept with earbuds in (my sis sleeps with a white noise machine), or it was dark in the house and it seems to have a weird layout so he really may not have known they were even there. I couldn’t imagine what they’re going through.![]()
Maybe a neighbour spotted unusual activity at the house, maybe even someone with binoculars who might like to keep an eye on the house filled with young attractive females, ie a perv with a conscience?Regarding the 911 caller - I think this is such an interesting aspect. I really wonder if this person identified themselves by name? According to the Coroner, the victims were likely sleeping. So going off of that, I am going to assume they were all in their bedrooms. This leaves me with so many questions about the 911 caller.
1. Was the 911 caller a friend who was stopping by to pay a visit on of the four, went into their room and saw that they were "unconscious"?
2. Was the 911 caller someone who was able to see through a window and see someone who appeared unconscious?
3. Was the 911 caller the killer?
Such an odd aspect to this case, even more so than the sleeping roommates who didn't hear the attack, IMO. If it was just someone who was stopping by, I don't know why that information would be concealed. They wouldn't have to identify them as anyone other than an unnamed friend.
My theory is the 2 girls were in bed when killed and then perp went to leave when one of the couple came out and was killed in living area (guessing the guy) and then other person of the couple (the girl) may have heard skuffle and woke up and started to also come out or yelled out so he went and killed her. Then he bolted. JMO.Regarding the 911 caller - I think this is such an interesting aspect. I really wonder if this person identified themselves by name? According to the Coroner, the victims were likely sleeping. So going off of that, I am going to assume they were all in their bedrooms. This leaves me with so many questions about the 911 caller.
1. Was the 911 caller a friend who was stopping by to pay a visit on of the four, went into their room and saw that they were "unconscious"?
2. Was the 911 caller someone who was able to see through a window and see someone who appeared unconscious?
3. Was the 911 caller the killer?
Such an odd aspect to this case, even more so than the sleeping roommates who didn't hear the attack, IMO. If it was just someone who was stopping by, I don't know why that information would be concealed. They wouldn't have to identify them as anyone other than an unnamed friend.
My impression was not that he was confused or in doubt but rather overwhelmed and shocked.Yes, I got this impression from the Chief’s demeanour when he was asked and said he didn’t know why the 911 call hadn’t been made until that time.
No sign of sexual assaultDid the autopsy report come back with anyone sexually assaulted? TIA
Is this area close to a military base? Has anyone living there been released from the military recently? Ka Bar knives are usually owned by military or someone affiliated.
Not a surprise given how the scene was described. This struck immediately as a 'rampage' style killing that was motivated by rage towards one or more of the victims. The purpose of the home invasion was to kill - period. The two survivors that were unharmed happened to be very fortunate the killer did not explore the rest of the house or got spooked somehow and ran off.No sign of sexual assault
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Autopsies of the 4 UI students completed
Update: The Latah County Coroner tells CBS that the killings seemed "personal." The autopsy revealed that a large knife appears to be the murder weapon, but itidahonews.com
I prefaced with I have wondered… all MOO but in ny sleepy pre flight state forgot to note.Were they tortured before being killed. Did LE find some evidence that the perp was in PPE that I missed?
I haven't seen anything suggesting there is any reason to think they were in PPE.Were they tortured before being killed. Did LE find some evidence that the perp was in PPE that I missed?
I agree with every word you wrote. Would a bruise show up that quickly after the murder, and wouldn't the loss of blood affect that? (No disrespect to any of these grieving parents, who may be comforted by thoughts of their children fighting back.)I think Xana's dad doesn't necessarily have knowledge of the autopsy results, he is more likely to be going of how he knows/thinks Xana would act in such a situation.
Traumatized parents + media interviews do not always equal reliable information.
He so said they were just hanging out at home when it has been reported they had been to a party. Not saying he is wrong, but we shouldn't take it as gospel that Xana had defensive wounds. Yet.
I heard the ME say that each victim had multiple stab wounds to their upper torsos. I did not hear the word torture. And she implied that the victims were all in their beds asleep due to the time of day. She did not indicate that anyone was up and fighting back or being tortured. In MOO torture doesn't mean being stabbed to death in your sleep - even as awful as that happening to anyone is. All MOOI prefaced with I have wondered… all MOO but in ny sleepy pre flight state forgot to note.
IMO MOO.
And I believe the ME’s statement about various non fatal knife wounds would indicate torture. IMO.
I prefaced with I have wondered… all MOO but in ny sleepy pre flight state forgot to note.
IMO MOO.
And I believe the ME’s statement about various non fatal knife wounds would indicate torture. IMO.
See I don't think the various non-fatal wounds indicate torture. I think it indicates an unsophisticated killer who was in a rage and wanted to kill quickly and leave. Thus the non-fatal wounds are essentially wild hacking trying to incapacitate the victims by any means necessary.I heard the ME say that each victim had multiple stab wounds to their upper torsos. I did not hear the word torture. And she implied that the victims were all in their beds asleep due to the time of day. She did not indicate that anyone was up and fighting back or being tortured. In MOO torture doesn't mean being stabbed to death in your sleep - even as awful as that happening to anyone is. All MOO