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Purely speculating here, but what if the M&K came home and let the dog out and the dog got loose and ran away and they ran after him. When they finally caught the dog they called J to tell him. While out looking for the dog the perp noticed them and it was indeed totally random. Their guard was down because they just found the dog.
Perp follows them back to the house and lays low until the lights go out. He thinks it is just those two and goes upstairs. While he is attacking M & K, E hears a struggle and goes to investigate. X is awaken when E gets up and when he doesn't come back the perp hears her too, which is why she was said (by her father) to have defensive wounds.
MOO
Maybe they're flowersI see those too
It's totally possible someone could have slipped away unnoticed. There were home football games in both Pullman & Moscow (honestly they're basically one town separated by 8 miles of farmland.) Also, it was dad's weekend at WSU in Pullman, which is one of the three biggest weekends of the year in our area. There were hundreds of folks from out of town between both cities, most of them in Moscow because there are better options for hotels, bars, and food.I’m surprised they have no video of even a dark clothed man walking on street or getting into car somewhere on the street nearby . If they checked all the videos of all streets and sidewalks nearby ( which im sure they have ) how is there no suspicious man walking or walking to car ? I’m sure the time he would have been it was pretty dead and would stand out . What was this guy invisible ??
Yes. The lack of a consistent PIO is very problematic. See that in many cases here. Smaller jurisdictions just seem to think winging it works in every instance, not realizing an unusual case with extremely high interest requires expertise in managing the message well.Even if they do know who and or why, the press conferences are making me less comfortable. I'd rather see them have the ISP PIO read a preprinted (and reviewed by legal) summary of the current facts of the case. As much or as little as they see fit to reveal at this time. So many chances for missteps and revealing unique information that only a killer would know. After the coroner's TV fiasco (IMO) I'd let all the muckity-mucks give their standard speeches and anything case-related would be handled by someone trained to deal with the media. Might even go so far as to ask the media to submit written questions with a promise to answer them by the next business day or at the next presser. I understand town is on edge, but they need to consider that the killer may well be watching.
At its worst, what if they keep saying "targeted" and the killer then decides to commit a completely random crime to throw them off the trail? Or some copycat enters the picture.
Hope they do have way more than they are saying, but not super-comfortable with media-interface so far.
We all want info, but I'm ok with it doled out in careful, legally bulletproof bits
Maybe LE believes killings started on 2nd floor and occurred prior to the multiple calls to J?Yes I agree that it would make sense that it occurred later but LE did officially change the time to 2-5 am . Maybe they are unsure if the calls made were distress calls , not really sure .
That's the second time I've seen this said and maybe I missed it. Do you have a source where LE says this please?
If killer had a beef with the roommates, I would think all would have been targeted. Perhaps it was a beef with the sleepover victim and somehow it lead to 3 of 5 roommates? To enter the house with such a large knife denotes to me that the killer was not just there to party.Yes, the targeting of one particular person is throwing me because it’s so risky to kill 4 people total if you were really just after 1 (even taking into consideration “eliminating” the other 3 as witnesses —that’s a lot of time and work especially with knife as your weapon).
I might be in the minority here but I’m not so sure it was a personal target against only one. I think maybe someone either had beef with like 3 of the 4 (or all 4), or it was a random/serial/thrill kill. Im having trouble thinking that 3 of the 4 were just collateral. I think perp wanted to kill multiple people that night for whatever reason. MOO
It's running hot, as they say. Lots of new members & high interest.Marking my spot. I’m sad that we’re on thread 7 and still no arrest.
I agree. And the girls wouldn't have their phones, because your first instinct is to run after the dog, not go get your phone and then run.Interesting theory. Or, perp saw them leave the house, chasing out after the dog, and slipped inside and hid—waited for them to return and go to sleep.
My slight modification of the theory is based on my idea that it’d be very natural to leave a door unlocked behind you, when you’re chasing a dog that got loose.
MOO
Those are berries on the tree lolWell, I hate to be that person. But on my tablet, when I zoom in, there are a few red clusters. But only on the side. Nowhere else.
Yes, the targeting of one particular person is throwing me because it’s so risky to kill 4 people total if you were really just after 1 (even taking into consideration “eliminating” the other 3 as witnesses —that’s a lot of time and work especially with knife as your weapon).
I might be in the minority here but I’m not so sure it was a personal target against only one. I think maybe someone either had beef with like 3 of the 4 (or all 4), or it was a random/serial/thrill kill. Im having trouble thinking that 3 of the 4 were just collateral. I think perp wanted to kill multiple people that night for whatever reason. MOO
Maybe the 911 call was too upsetting (people crying, screaming, etc.) or the description of what they saw was too disturbing to release to the public. Or LE is protecting the identity of the caller in the event the killer wants "revenge" on them and/or knows the person who called and would be able to target them. Edit: Or the call would give away information about the scene/timing that LE needs to catch the killer in a lie, etc. Or the public would speculate about the caller as a suspect/to protect their privacy as a result. Think there's a lot of reasons why it wouldn't be released (at this point, maybe they would release it later after this is solved or something) that aren't necessarily suspiciousIt sure seems odd they won’t release that 911 tape or continue to obfuscate who reported it. If they really thought they were honing in on a perpetrator and the 911 tape had telling information at all, that would help turn up the heat on the perpetrator. If there wasn’t anything telling on it, why not release it? Just curious is all…
That doesn't actually link me to where it says the coroner said this. The link they provide takes me to an article that doesn't actually have her saying this.