ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #27

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Jo in Calif said:
Just a heads up on what qualifys a person to be a verified insider and what does not qualify.
This can be found at the beginning of the site. I'm on my phone and can't link to it, I'm sure someone can do this for me.
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person number 1 ....fails all 5 pollygraph tests
person number 2 ....fails all 4 pollygraph tests
person number 3 ....all tests were deemed as no pass - no fail
person number 4 .... which is IR Passed pollygraph test

I dont know thier names so i just went with person number 1 2 3 but basically its gramps the father and the mother....final chapter in the letters they write - conclusion they all but IR ARE LYING and we now are moving into a homicide fase of action......Dont quote me as thats not word for word but it is the jist of what they said.....
 
CanManEh said:
person number 1 ....fails all 5 pollygraph tests
person number 2 ....fails all 4 pollygraph tests
person number 3 ....all tests were deemed as no pass - no fail
person number 4 .... which is IR Passed pollygraph test

I dont know thier names so i just went with person number 1 2 3 but basically its gramps the father and the mother....final chapter in the letters they write - conclusion they all but IR ARE LYING and we now are moving into a homicide fase of action......Dont quote me as thats not word for word but it is the jist of what they said.....
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GGP & IR (persons 3 & 4) both had inconclusive polygraphs from LE. Those were expected to come out as inconclusive as they both have ailments that would "skew" the results of polygraphs. The release you have just read that said IR was being truthful had nothing to do with polygraphs, the PI was basing that off of interviews.
 
renarde said:
Maybe he had lots of little cars and several camo jackets... it's still sad they'd leave any of his things behind.
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Possibly a lot of little cars. But, with all due respect, I doubt a child that age would have several camo jackets. They outgrow things within a few months... JMO
 
Ok so all this in a nutshell is that Deorr could be ANYWHERE and it was just a rouse up at the campground? And all were involved except MAYBE IR? Someone help me out here.


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neesaki said:
Possibly a lot of little cars. But, with all due respect, I doubt a child that age would have several camo jackets. They outgrow things within a few months... JMO
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I agree that children Deorr's age outgrow clothing quickly. Perhaps this was a camo jacket he already outgrew. Or perhaps, one handed down from his older brother, for later use.
 
Little Ol Me said:
I agree that children Deorr's age outgrow clothing quickly. Perhaps this was a camo jacket he already outgrew. Or perhaps, one handed down from his older brother, for later use.
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He was 2 1/2 years old. Realistically, how many camo jackets do you think a child that age would really have? I just don't see any reason to try to whitewash a crime against a baby. That said, I am inherently protective of those who we are here to protect. JMOHO
 
Oh ya, and that $9201 missing from the fundraiser money from Klein. Didn't JM have a $10,000 civil suit filed against her over a CC debt just a month or two after Deorr disappeared? Anybody know the current status of that lawsuit?
 
ZooSleuth said:
Oh ya, and that $9201 missing from the fundraiser money from Klein. Didn't JM have a $10,000 civil suit filed against her over a CC debt just a month or two after Deorr disappeared? Anybody know the current status of that lawsuit?
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To that end- I wonder if they have life insurance on little Deorr, or if their internet history shows them looking into getting any at any point in time. I don't think it's ever been mentioned by investigators, but that may be something they are holding close to their vest as evidence.
 
neesaki said:
He was 2 1/2 years old. Realistically, how many camo jackets do you think a child that age would really have? I just don't see any reason to try to whitewash a crime against a baby. That said, I am inherently protective of those who we are here to protect. JMOHO
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I believe that, I assure you I have the same feelings.

I hope you don't think I'm trying to whitewash any crime. I simply believe it's possible that the camo jacket found at the previous residence, may not be the one Deorr was supposedly wearing when he was reported missing.
 
KatieLiz said:
To that end- I wonder if they have life insurance on little Deorr, or if their internet history shows them looking into getting any at any point in time. I don't think it's ever been mentioned by investigators, but that may be something they are holding close to their vest as evidence.
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If this death was premeditated and related to life insurance money, then why would they hide the body? Would a life insurance policy ever be paid without a body?
 
seventeenseconds said:
Ok so all this in a nutshell is that Deorr could be ANYWHERE and it was just a rouse up at the campground? And all were involved except MAYBE IR? Someone help me out here.


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Basically, yes. They're saying they can't verify DeOrr being seen past 5 pm the night before, and think the camping trip was a cover up.

I always go back to VDK saying "Snake River" TWICE by accident in that first interview...
 
It's been a while since I've check in on this case. Still no good news. :'( Karma will catch up to those responsible. MOO.
 
ZooSleuth said:
If this death was premeditated and related to life insurance money, then why would they hide the body? Would a life insurance policy ever be paid without a body?
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No idea. I was just running with the "money" theory. Just wondering if they had maybe looked into life insurance but didn't get any. But Who knows how much they received from the go fund me pages.
 
Little Ol Me said:
I agree that children Deorr's age outgrow clothing quickly. Perhaps this was a camo jacket he already outgrew. Or perhaps, one handed down from his older brother, for later use.
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it was stated that it was a jacket that was 'described' to KIC as missing. the description would probably include style, colors and size.
 
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