GUILTY ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow *Arrests* #76

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“He is busy. He is engaged. He has jobs that he does there, and he is so happy where he is.” Wow. All things young people get to grow up and do: be busy, get engaged, have jobs, be happy where they are.

Interesting she left “has friends” off the list of everything the children she murdered now enjoy.

Even in her twisted view, her kids are isolated and alone, but she doesn’t need to think about them because they are busy.
Well, I don't think she meant "engaged-engaged" like boy-girl; I think she meant "busy-engaged".

You know, like busywork.

...do other devout LDS find her complete and utter lack of any details accompanying this doctrinally sound; or is she just blurting nonsense?? I mean, she makes everyone sound like they're cars in Thomas's train, with about the same level of intellectual maturity...

maybe the LDS devout aren't supposed to think about what this ("being busy") looks like in reality; but Lori's interpretation isn't doing it any favors either way.
 
I think it's interesting that Lori is determined by some people, including some professionals, to be suffering with delusions.

Since 2018 she was talking on podcasts about meeting Jesus, telling Charles that he was possessed and she would murder him, telling police and her family that Charles was cheating on her, modifying her behavior to pass an emergency mental health evaluation, telling others she was gathering the 144,000, telling JJ's school and Colby that she was relocating for a new job, telling law enforcement and others that her brother and/or Kay were trying to kill her or kidnap JJ, that Tylee was at college, that Charles died of a heart attack, etc etc etc

I call it plain old lying.

- as well as manipulation and persecution, due ultimately to consciousness of wrongdoing. It's how she operates, always.

I don't believe it started in 2018, I believe she has always done it and it was brought up years earlier in the family courts. I don't know why it didn't form part of the PSI, even if it wasn't a criminal record. It feels as if her history with Joe Ryan and her recruiting Alex to attack him has just been swept under the rug. She has always got away with this behavior and been enabled by others.

She is just a liar. A con artist.

JMO
 
Good question. Not sure that someone can tape himself, shoot himself, dismember herself, or pin herself down.

My money is on Alex. Her dead co-defendant probably has been by to tell her how happy and busy he is.

MOO
I have always thought that Alex was instructed to commit suicide by some kind of poison, maybe cyanide. JMO
 
uggh. Against my better judgment I watched her read it. I must admit to being impressed with the Judge's ability to maintain an straight face.
I noticed the judge periodically
writing down something as LVD spoke…

In my imagination it was :
B-U-R-N in ————
B-U-R-N in ————
B-U-R-N …….
B-U-R-N …
B…



JMO
 
I noticed the judge periodically
writing down something as LVD spoke…

In my imagination it was :
B-U-R-N in ————
B-U-R-N in ————
B-U-R-N …….
B-U-R-N …
B…



JMO

I went back to specifically watch for his note taking. He jotted something down every time she talked about the kids being happy and busy and when she talked about Tammy being her friend. I know it can't happen, but I would absolutely love to hear what was going through his mind during her allocution.
 
I went back to specifically watch for his note taking. He jotted something down every time she talked about the kids being happy and busy and when she talked about Tammy being her friend. I know it can't happen, but I would absolutely love to hear what was going through his mind during her allocution.
I imagine it was some variation on:

"This one puts the D-U-H in "delusional"...!!"
 
I went back to specifically watch for his note taking. He jotted something down every time she talked about the kids being happy and busy and when she talked about Tammy being her friend. I know it can't happen, but I would absolutely love to hear what was going through his mind during her allocution.
I think he was waiting for remorse.

jmo
 
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What’s next for Lori Vallow? We wait for her to be booked into an Idaho state prison, either Pocatello or South Boise women’s facility. Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell says she plans to get a Governor’s requisition for extradition so Lori can face 2 more charges.

The requisition eliminates time constraints for how long Vallow can be in Maricopa County custody, per a recent news conference held by Mitchell. Lori will appear on charges of murder conspiracy related to Charles Vallow & Brandon Boudreaux.

Mitchell said if all goes to plan, Lori could be in Arizona by the end of the year. As Kay Woodcock told me today, she would like her extradited right away. She’s fighting for justice for her brother Charles.
 
TRANSCRIPT OF LORI VALLOW'S STATEMENT AT HER SENTENCING 31 JUL 2023:

I would like to start by quoting John from the New Testament in the Bible. In John, chapter eight, verse seven, Jesus says, "ye that is without sin among you, let him cast-- first cast a stone at her. Then in verse fifteen, Jesus says, "ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. And yet if I judge, my judgment is true."

Jesus knows me, and Jesus understand me. I mourn with all of you who mourn my children and Tammy. Jesus Christ knows the truth of what happened here. Jesus Christ knows that no one was murdered in this case. Accidental deaths happen. Suicides happen. Fatal side effects from medications happen.

I have a different perspective in life, because in 2002, when I was pregnant with Tylee, I died in the hospital while in labor with her. They tried to stop my labor. They put me on the table and put something in my IV and I felt my spirit falling to the floor. I was standing near my pregnant body watching the doctors trying to revive me, which took them a few minutes. In that time, my sister Stacy was standing to my left. I turned to hug her and was surprised that her spirit was as tangible as a physical body, because I knew I was in spirit and she was in spirit. She said she needed to show me some things, and we went to heaven. I later returned to my body. Because of this experience, I have access to heaven and the spirit world.

Since then, I have had many communications from people now living in heaven, including my children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson, my sisters Stacy and Lolly, my aunts and uncles and my grandparents. I have had many communications with Jesus Christ, the savior of this world, and our Heavenly Parents. I've had many angelic visitors have come and communicated with me and even manifested themselves to me.

Because of these communications, I know for a fact that my children are happy and busy in the spirit world. Because of my communications with my friend Tammy Daybell, I know that she is also very happy and extremely busy. I have always mourned the loss of my loved ones, and I have lost many in this mortal world. However, I know more than most people know: Where they are now and what they're doing. I know how wonderful heaven is and I'm homesick for it every single day. I know we all lived in heaven before we were born on Earth and we were all adult spirits in the heavenly realm. We chose to come to earth as mortals. Heaven is more wonderful than you can possibly imagine. I do not fear death, but I look forward to it.

I did not want to return to my body when I was out of it, even though my son Colby, who I adored more than anything was only six years old at the time and I was about to give birth to this new baby girl that I wanted so badly. I was a young mother, and you would think I wouldn't want to leave my children, but as I stood in heaven I did not want to go back. I thought they would be fine without me, because I was peaceful and I was happy and I was home. But then I was told by Jesus that I needed to go back and complete things that I had covenanted or promised to do before I was born. This caused me a lot of distress because I knew heaven was my real home, and I only wanted to be there. I was free from pain -- emotional and physical -- but then I was shown how I would help my children and others in the future, so ultimately I did agree to go back to my body.

Tylee has visited me. She is happy and very busy. Tylee is free now from all the pains of her life. Tylee suffered horrible physical pain her whole life. I sat with Tylee in the hospital year after year after year while she screamed in pain when the morphine wasn't even enough to take away the pain of her pancreatitis. I sat there while she cried and I held back her hair while she threw up, and I am the only person on this Earth who knows how much Tylee suffered in her life. She had pain every single day. She never felt good. Her body did not work right, and I don't know if that was complications from me dying while she was being born or something else, but she had a very difficult life. She was sexually abused by her own biological father since she was three years old, and she was forced by family court to go visit him for ten years against her will. I fought for her in court. I protected her with my whole life. I tried to protect her. I worried about her every single day. Tylee had to get her GED because she couldn't go to school every day because she never felt good. She felt sick. Nobody knows this because Tylee, like myself, tries to put on a good front, tries to be a happy person, tries to have hope in life, tries to know that she's here for a purpose and that she has an eternal purpose to be on this earth, but I never stopped worrying aout her. One of the times Tylee came to me as a spirit after she died, she said-- she commanded me and she said to me "Stop worrying, Mom. We are fine." She knows how I worry and how I miss her.

The first time JJ visited me after he passed away, he put his arm around me, and he said to me, "You didn't do anything wrong, Mom. I love you, and I know you loved me every minute of my life." JJ -- Joshua Jackson -- was an adult spirit, and he was very, very tall when he put his arm around me. He is busy. He is engaged. He has jobs that he does there, and he is so happy where he is. His life was short, but JJ's life was meaningful. JJ was a wonderful person and touched the lives of everyone, and I adored him every minute of his life.

My eternal friend Tammy Daybell has visited me on several occasions. She came to bring me peace and comfort, and I know that she is extremely busy helping her family, especially her children and grandchildren, and I have a great love for Tammy.

My beautiful children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson rest safely this day in the arms of Jesus. My wonderful friend Tammy Daybell rests safely this day in the arms of Jesus. And I look forward to the day when we are reunited and I, too, will rest with them in the arms of my Jesus.

RSBM

Thank you for the transcript! Every ME, MY, and I she uses (after the Biblical part) is amazing. We should just give it the title "Ridiculous Ode to Herself".
 
She said her daughters father was sexually abusing her. Was there any evidence of this? I didn’t really follow the trial so this is the first I’ve heard about it
 
And probably puffiness from unhealthy prison food, I'm guessing.
Up until now, she's been getting local-yokel jail food (and mental institution food). Prison food is way worse, I'm told. Where I live, we had a very wealthy murderess in the county jail for three months -- her entire sentence! -- and she had her meals brought in from her favorite local restaurant. The other inmates loathed her. I believe they had to be relocated for this special guest's safety.
 
uggh. Against my better judgment I watched her read it. I must admit to being impressed with the Judge's ability to maintain an straight face.
But then he threw it right back at her as proof that she didn't have any remorse and didn't deserve any remediation.

Life in prison without parole!
I truly hope that Lori finds a way back to humanity.
 
Very strange to bring it up today in court. Made no sense. jmo
General WS consensus seems to be that Lori meant to infer that Tylee was the "suicides happen" at the beginning of her speech; hence collating up everything over the course of her life that might have ever made Tylee depressed enough to consider ending her life.

Which is a terrible take either way; a court appointed psychiatrist evaluated Tylee's father Joe at length as part of Lori's divorce accusation, and said Joe had no evidence of any inclination towards pedophilia of either gender.
 
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