Couple of pieces of interest in the MG interview dated 30 April 2021 -
A different kind of 'sealing' ? -
52:42
MG: Somebody would do something about water and, I can't remember the words, they were so different, sorry I'm trying, um crystals or whatever, and I'm trying to remember Nicole and Christina, like what would they have said...
RPD: Okay so you guys go round the circle and each person says their part, right?, and then it comes back to Lori?
MG: Most likely.
RPD: And how does Lori close it? Like how do you guys get done with the casting?
MG: She would invite the spirit, um, to come out of the body, and I think a few times if I remember now, it's so long since I've thought about this, Zulema, um they would try to, is the right word to
seal it?,
seal it up or something like that?,
seal it?
RPD: Like sealing a [?]
MG:
Sealing yeah, like try to
seal it where they could, that light energy that was going into them that would cause that evil spirit to go 'okay I'm going to leave now', so they were trying to invite it to leave now, and um, yeah, to just talk to, yeah, I think at the end she would just try to
seal that up and try to think she had the power to talk it out of leaving the body.
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Lori 'getting JJ to sleep' at Alex's apartment on the night he was murdered -
1:23:09
RPD:
That night on the 22nd, try to remember as best you can, so it's a Sunday, do you guys go to dinner or do you make dinner on Sunday night?
MG: Well we would make it because we don't go to eat dinner out, so we would have made it at home.
RPD: Okay, so everybody's at home, does Lori leave anywhere with JJ?
MG: I don't have any memory of her leaving.
RPD: Does...so you sent a text, correction,
Lori sent a text to you around eight thirty that evening, saying that, something to the effect of, 'hey, I'll be there shortly, JJ woke up and she's getting him back to bed'. Do you know where she was at, or where you were at when she sent that text?
MG: Gosh. That doesn't even sound familiar. Maybe at Alex's house, I mean that's the only, it's the only place that she could be?
RPD: Do you have that conversation with her on your phone right now?
MG: No, I think I deleted everything. I was so freaked out when it happened sorry. I wish I would have kept it.
RPD: So, and I can get that...
MG: So say it again, who's speaking? Say it again.
RPD: Lori...
MG: She text me and says...?
RPD: And says something to the effect of
'I'll be there shortly, JJ woke up and I'm trying to get him back to sleep.'
MG: And that was at night.
RPD:
It was about eight thirty at night.
MG: Well okay because we didn't do the podcast yet, we started the podcast late because I remember thinking 'man I can't stay up this late, I'm a early bird, like come on!' We started late, and she's an early bird too, so it must have been, my guess, my guess is it must have been at Alex's house getting him to sleep over there, I'm guessing, I'm gonna just make some guesses, 'cause she would have never gone to Chad's house 'cause tammy was there right? So where else in the world would she go? I have no idea.
RPD: Right, and that's why I'm asking if you remember being alone in her apartment or not.. 'Cause if she's at Alex's you're alone at her apartment...
MG: I could have been upstairs or something, maybe I was talking to David, who knows?...
RPD: So and that's why I'm asking, do you remember her leaving and JJ not being there around that time.
MG: Probably, 'cause that's when she, he was no longer there when we did the podcast and so somehow, I think I was upstairs, that's what I feel. I just don't remember that detail 'cause I didn't have any reason to remember, I didn't know anything was going on, so I didn't have a way of associating anything. I just knew I was going to do a podcast and that was it. And I didn't prepare for it, I never prepare for podcasts, I just blurghh, you know.