Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #19

[Mentalheadslap2018]

Would it make someone a bad person to read this and laugh? (Asking for a friend.)

Hope not, LOL.

 

[janx]

This is exactly how I have interpreted this cult-speak phrase. The LDS church does believe a person can be possessed or affected/influenced by evil spirits much like in the New Testament, and that they can be cast out. However, these cases are not all that common, and NEVER NEVER NEVER cause to end someone's life since there is clearly a far better solution Biblicly-speaking

It's interesting to see how the Chads (or Denver Snuffers) of this world take a portion of the teaching of the mainstream church and twist it to their advantage. I'm old enough to recognize that it's nothing new, but it still annoys me because vulnerable people will latch onto it.

the

Luke 11:36 King James Version (KJV)
36 If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.

Just curious and so I looked up bible quotes

From her quoted phrase the first thing I thought of was full of light i.e. life and then goes dark i.e. death

MOO

Yes. Note how it has been used by the offshoot cultists specifically when referencing children. It's weird.

 

[carbuff]

I don't think Lori could have let JJ go to KW, because that would mean admitting she failed. Besides, it would make somebody she didn't like happy, and she wouldn't do that.

I swear everything I read about this woman makes me feel more and more ill.

 

[FindingJoLee]

Okay, this convinced me to throw a few bucks on the pile.

Same. What a great suggestion.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Thanks!

No, it was IP.

 

[Redvines86]

Thank you for responding, I agree with you 100%. Full disclosure: I inadvertently sent this question to you when I should have directed it to Redvines86, who is the individual who had this weird yearbook experience with Chad. Ugh, so sorry.

FWIW, what I was getting at is I would have guessed (correctly, as it happens, now that I can see Redvines86 is female) that he pulled this stunt with a female. I'm gonna go out on a wild limb here and say that he would never have pulled this with a man. Yet he felt some entitlement to not only think he had the right to do that, he was comfortable to put it in writing at a time when social norms had advanced far beyond all of that.

Poor Tammy, and all she wanted was to continue to serve her God, love her family, bless her community, and watch her grandkids grow up. But others felt entitled to take that all of away from her, and from them. That selfishness robbed them of the many rich blessings she would have brought to all of them, because you know she would have brought them in spades, and then some.

Yes, of course it's not ok.I agree 100%. Chad was a good friend, and obviously a lot of us remember him as super nice, because he was. I wouldn't have been friends otherwise. Looking back, he was kind of bossy with guys and girls in our grade, but I think we thought it was because he was helping us. I wouldn't say social norms had advanced past giving me advice in my yearbook, just that it was kind of weird. I think men and women are still trying to give each other advice now, let alone 70-80 years ago, lol, but yes things are somewhat better now I hope. But there will always be weird Chads, and that was more my point, that he was an aberration in my life, even in the mid eighties he was not the norm by any means. Honestly, the world I grew up in was super nice, in some ways we were nicer to each other than people are now, and I had a wonderful childhood and teen-agehood. MOO

 

[renarde]

So, did Lori go to ... religious counseling today?

"The Kauai Community Correctional Center (KCCC) is a 130-bed facility. In addition to its jail functions, KCCC offers education, substance abuse treatment, religious counseling, cultural arts, and work furlough programs."

Kauai Community Correctional Center

 

[KonaHonu]

So, did Lori go to ... religious counseling today?

"The Kauai Community Correctional Center (KCCC) is a 130-bed facility. In addition to its jail functions, KCCC offers education, substance abuse treatment, religious counseling, cultural arts, and work furlough programs."

Kauai Community Correctional Center

She can receive mail...

 

[renarde]

She can receive mail...

As in, pen pal mail?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

It was her niece Melani that was reported to have said it:

“Melani’s knowledge of the whereabouts of her aunt’s two missing children and her unwillingness to cooperate with law enforcement is daunting and her current husband has told law enforcement that Melani says sometimes children are full of light and then just like that they go dark,” the newly revealed court documents say, according to Fox10.

Doomsday mom Lori Vallow’s niece knows where missing kids are: Court docs

BBM.

i will really have to go back.... I thought that very statement in bold was from IP, not MBP.. But i don't understand the statement All of the children in the XXXX and XXXX families were included when the sacrament was being administered (the children only drank grape juice) and the older children were also baptized.

 

[Alpha Bravo]

So, did Chad go to church in Kauai today?

It's rumored he is going to try getting on his knees and praying. He hasn't tried it before, but he hears it works in some situations.

 

[Kudzu]

OF COURSE he says he’s writing a book about this whole thing. These two are such idiots.

Good for him! It’s important to have commissary money.

 

[KonaHonu]

You can track her status here:

VINELink

She is now going by offender ID X0018932

 

[Alpha Bravo]

So, did Lori go to ... religious counseling today?

"The Kauai Community Correctional Center (KCCC) is a 130-bed facility. In addition to its jail functions, KCCC offers education, substance abuse treatment, religious counseling, cultural arts, and work furlough programs."

Kauai Community Correctional Center

Yeah, it's rumored she led the worship team, then stepped right up and gave a hell and brimstone sermon.

 

[arizonamomoffour]

He was quoting her, correct?

yes

 

[renarde]

I guess Chad can't visit yet. May as well go to church then...

"The inmate must submit a visitation list for approval. Clearance for individuals on this list normally takes one week. Visitors must be on approved visitation list prior to the visit."

Kauai Community Correctional Center

 

[Redvines86]

As in, pen pal mail?

I don't mind writing her, but I'm sure as heck using a fake name and driving out of my way for the postmark! lol

 

[nhmemorymaker]

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[Angleterre]

In your experience, do accused with counsel present, tend to opt not to give a version at interview, or do they tend to risk getting a story down?

I've seen a few cases where the version given at interview has obvious mistakes due to it being manufactured around the disclosure, but failing to deal with stuff that emerges "later"

More often than not they either go NO COMMENT to all questions asked which then enables them to accurately present answers at Crown Court, to the questions asked previously in interviews ( but they run the risk of the Judge alerting the jury to the facts that their accounts was only given once their legal representation had all disclosure in hand ) OR what is becoming more prevalent is a half way measure whereby they give , again through their legal representative, a PREPARED STATEMENT. This basically is an outline account without any tangible detail and it is so that the accused is not tainted by giving a NO COMMENT interview but they are also not tying theirselves into giving an explanation to fit the disclosure which if not fully accurate, can be picked apart and huge holes created in their own version of events , once this is given as evidence in Crown Court ( an ultimately can often be disproved by witness accounts and alibi statements and CCTV and forensic evidence etc).
We do still have many who do wish to give a full consenting interview whereby they give their ‘own’ truth , but it is much more prevalent nowadays to go down the previous two aforementioned routes , especially with the younger generation of perpetrators. I hope that answers your question(s).

 

[KonaHonu]

I don't mind writing her, but I'm sure as heck using a fake name and driving out of my my for the postmark! lol

I wonder how many "Where are the children?" posters she will receive every day.