Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #23

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We all hope it is true but seeing will be believing.
In the immortal words of Jack Sparrow “Me? I’m dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.” Chads a guy that can and will and has lied point blank to police, his parents, his kids, and his wife.
 
D. Lori had a valid AZ drivers license with the Gemini address. AZ licenses are good for 5 years. If she renewed it in June of 2014 and never changed the address when she returned from Hawaii, it would be good until June 2019. MOO
:D:rolleyes:
AZ licenses are good for 30 yrs. Mine was done in 2005 and expires in 2035.
 
Chad Daybell tells ABC News, Tylee and J.J. 'are safe'

Another source reporting Chad's words today.

Do we believe him?

"ABC News reported Sunday afternoon that the step-father of two missing Rexburg children told them that the youth are not in danger.

Chad Daybell told the network about his two step children, Tylee Ryan and J.J. Vallow, as he boarded an airplane to Idaho.

“The kids are safe,” he reportedly told ABC.

Why neither Chad or Lori told the police this before, isn't known. Daybell declined to go into specifics with the network about the children’s health or where they were."


So they aren’t empty nesters anymore? He’s acknowledging Lori has kids?

Sheesh, keep digging, Chad. Normal people aren’t buying any of your stories.
 
Chad Daybell tells ABC News, Tylee and J.J. 'are safe'

Another source reporting Chad's words today.

Do we believe him?

"ABC News reported Sunday afternoon that the step-father of two missing Rexburg children told them that the youth are not in danger.

Chad Daybell told the network about his two step children, Tylee Ryan and J.J. Vallow, as he boarded an airplane to Idaho.

“The kids are safe,” he reportedly told ABC.

Why neither Chad or Lori told the police this before, isn't known. Daybell declined to go into specifics with the network about the children’s health or where they were."
As another poster pointed out if they haven’t seen the kids in almost six months how can he know they are safe. There’s a (very) slim chance they’re alive...safe is another matter altogether. MOO. I hope they’re alive but I very much doubt it. Either way I hope LV and CD go to jail for a very long time. JMO
 
So whenever Lori gets caught, she starts blaming everyone else. I wonder if this will also happen with the children's disappearance.
Typical NPD. She thinks the world revolves around her and when something goes wrong, it’s always somebody else’s fault. It sounds as though she was turning her family against Charles so that when he tried to cry out for help, no one believed him...except maybe Brandon. Charles was the “bad guy.” MOO
 
It's possible.. (Jmo)

I think it's possible that after growing up with Lori and then witnessing her sociopathic criminal behavior as an adult, AdC came to know that his sister was literally the wicked witch of the west.

AdC watched as Lori defied the courts (Tylee custody) and perhaps plotted to harm and/or kill JR. Then he watched as Lori further brainwashed and corrupted his brother AC and began to use AC as her own personal enforcer and hit man. He watched as Lori and AC plunged deeper and deeper into the hubris and insanity of a doomsday death cult.

I think AdC was and is good people. I think CV, AdC, and BB all improbably ended up on the same team - knowing however that no one would believe them. AdC knew enough about Lori and AC though to take CV's (and later, BB's) claims seriously. AdC believed CV when CV told him that Lori was deluded and insane, that she was part of a dangerous cult, that she was having an affair with the cult leader, and that CV's life and the lives of the children could possibly be in danger.

When AdC learned that CV had been killed by AC, I think he suspected it may not have been self defense. When AdC later learned that Lori and AC had fled with the children to Idaho (and then when he possibly heard about TD's death) he may have begun to truly believe that the children's lives were in danger. But by then, they were gone.

AdC may have also pieced together info about MG, JM, and others. After the children disappeared, like BB, I think AdC began to suspect that his own life was in danger.

So maybe AdC decided to put an end to it. Maybe he decided that the best defense was a good offense. While AdC may not have known where Lori and CD were, he may have known where to find AC...

The above story should rightly be considered outlandish fiction. But this whole case has been full of what should have been considered outlandish fiction - but instead turned out to be all too real. In this fantasy, I'd like to think that perhaps AdC defended himself and became an avenging angel of a different kind. Hopefully LE and the courts will do the rest.


I'm with you through: AdC may have also pieced together info about MG, JM, and others. After the children disappeared, like BB, I think AdC began to suspect that his own life was in danger.

Not so sure about the next paragraph.
 
As another poster pointed out if they haven’t seen the kids in almost six months how can he know they are safe. There’s a (very) slim chance they’re alive...safe is another matter altogether. MOO. I hope they’re alive but I very much doubt it. Either way I hope LV and CD go to jail for a very long time. JMO
He very well could mean that they’re safe on the other side of that “veil” they are so fond of peaking behind. MOO
 
In the immortal words of Jack Sparrow “Me? I’m dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.” Chads a guy that can and will and has lied point blank to police, his parents, his kids, and his wife.

Agree. His words mean nothing. His definition of “safe” and my definition of “safe” may be entirely different. He could simply mean that Tylee and JJ are “safe” from the scary last days that Lori spoke about because they are no longer alive.
 
Chad Daybell tells ABC News, Tylee and J.J. 'are safe'

Another source reporting Chad's words today.

Do we believe him?

"ABC News reported Sunday afternoon that the step-father of two missing Rexburg children told them that the youth are not in danger.

Chad Daybell told the network about his two step children, Tylee Ryan and J.J. Vallow, as he boarded an airplane to Idaho.

“The kids are safe,” he reportedly told ABC.

Why neither Chad or Lori told the police this before, isn't known. Daybell declined to go into specifics with the network about the children’s health or where they were."

How does he know that? - Did Lori tell him or did he independently verify that :(
 
"safe", what is HIS interpretation of SAFE.. after reading about said crazy interplanetary/ reincarnated/ translated/pierced veil/doomsday/self proclaimed God beliefs, whatever it is, "safe" in his mind likely is not safe by Webster dictionary standards. MOO

It's pretty obvious that, as other posters have said, the question was worded in such a way that Chad could have taken the question to mean and answered it truthfully as regards the kids he had with Tammy.
 
Whaaaaat? Do they think people's looks/driving abilities don't change in 30 years time? Here in VA, ours now last for 8 years (used to be 5 until a few years ago).
AZ doesn't do anything that makes sense, IMO. I waited a year to get mine because I was pregnant and fat. Lol. I knew I would be stuck with the photo for 30 years, so waited til I dropped some of the baby weight. Lol. I agree though, it shouldn't be more than 5 yr to renew. I will be 65 when I have to renew.
 
AdC is probably the only sane one in that family. I've noticed he changed his social media name and changed some pictures around since the emails came out. He's been through hell with the media in the past and it took him a while to get it back on track. I can say that he has always came across as a very genuine and funny man. I hope this mess doesn't drag him down with it.
 
TY both. So AVOW is not a terrorist group that I can see so why are posters stating that as fact ?
I don't know why, perhaps just relating them being on SPLC as a very bad thing. SPLC has been sued many times because of this issue and the stink they bring, and the main face of it and co-founder, Attorney Morris Dees, was fired last year in March. It's quite a nasty ball of wax, don't want to go the rabbit hole with this but it's worth reading up on if you have the time.
 
As another poster pointed out if they haven’t seen the kids in almost six months how can he know they are safe. There’s a (very) slim chance they’re alive...safe is another matter altogether. MOO. I hope they’re alive but I very much doubt it. Either way I hope LV and CD go to jail for a very long time. JMO
For him to say they are safe must mean he knows where they are. It's better than saying Lori doesn't have any minor children, anyway. Wonder what made him change his response?

Can Idaho now compel him or Lori to tell where they are?
 
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