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AA, did you ever talk to Rose?
Then on the Thursday after the murder, he left his home in Weippe in his car (ausnote: not his truck) at 4am. About 5am he was four miles east of Orofino on the Lewis & Clark Hwy (ausnote: what took him an hour to get there?) when, he said, he suddenly got "stomach cramps" and made the emergency roadside stop which led him straight to the site of Lonnie's body.
After I checked the moon phase (on the previous page) I don't think the unsub could see to pose the body that night. IMO Lonnie lay where he fell until the next evening when I think the unsub returned to remove the restraints (when he could see better) leaving rigamortis to keep Lonnie's hands in place.
I think Peter Brendt, a brilliant sleuther, figured this case out back in 2012:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ack-Days-September-1951&p=8624585#post8624585
He found out about a child rapist, who liked young boys, who had been arrested right after this crime, for a similar assault. Walter Cunningham.
HiScriptgirl!Okay, how far is Kamiah from Orofino? What happened to the pervert?
I think Peter Brendt, a brilliant sleuther, figured this case out back in 2012:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ack-Days-September-1951&p=8624585#post8624585
He found out about a child rapist, who liked young boys, who had been arrested right after this crime, for a similar assault. Walter Cunningham.
from the link:
A few weeks after Lonnie was murdered, police arrested a man, who had raped another boy. The boy was still alive, he had been threatened to stay silent and tell nobody. Only the boy told and thus, the perpetrator was apprehended. Same area, same MO, same victimology. WC (not sure whether I'm allowed to write the full name) got for that crime a back then mandatory life sentence. He died decades later in prison.
WC was a carpenter. At the night of the fair, he had earned some money there, helping to break down stuff. He was last seen at the fair at ab. 12:10-12:15. That places him, by time and location about 150 yards from Lonnie minutes before Lonnie spoke to the Kamiah teenagers at the bridge. Remember, Lonnie was upset about something or someone he had seen minutes before, but calmed down, when he got the ride with those teenagers.
Well, WC was a carpenter, and he had tools in his vehicle. His business was to make cabinets and closets using a softer wood used back in the days as a prevention against moths (I'm no carpenter and no expert for wood, so I would have to look the details up). But he used typical carpenter tools, also vices. The injuries on Lonnie's fingertips could be from such a vice (unfortunately local LE isn't willing to give out those photos not willing to take a real look at them or send them to expert labs). The interesting detail is, that a carpenter wouldn't have need to have rope in his vehicle. We know, the perpetrator had no rope, he used other means of restraint.
WC knew Lonnie by sight! He bought wood from a lumber mill just cross the street from where Lonnie lived (another a bit shady operation. His wife's family would be later pretty known for committing the biggest string of thefts in the area too). Unfortunately, LE denies any cooperation into even asking for old bills or IRS records.
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But we have a man there, we can place inside 150 yards to Lonnie at exactly the same time, the perpetrator had to start to follow him, a perpetrator that is, who would have driven back direction Orofino after snatching Lonnie. And Lonnie was found nearer to Orofino, near to the creek, so that is exactly, what Lonnie's killer did. And that man was caught some weeks later for the same kind of crime against a victim in the same age bracket, same gender with the same MO.
Hi Kline! Wish I saw you around these parts more. Why won't LE send those photos out?
Thanks for the link I hadn't seen that article.In the article, it says:
Photographs of the crime scene show that when Jones was found, he was wearing clothes. An autopsy revealed he had a full stomach at the time of his death. But Jared said he has uncovered no evidence to support the claim the boy had been molested.
Documentation from the 65-year-old case, however, is sparse. A large binder containing transcripts of interviews with the suspects and others that are kept in a small cardboard box are the only remaining clues.
There may be other records somewhere, Jared said, "but I don't have access to them. They're not here.
Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/state/idaho/article116399943.html#storylink=cpy
My grandfather was the coroner in the case, W.E. Gilbert. My dad grew up in Orofino and he said the case scared people for a long time. I love through Greer grade. I'm glad I live so close to our wild western outdoors.
Hi,
second part ...
Another detail is, that, according to a family member, but one, that didn't know Lonnie (born to late), Lonnie was sexually assaulted already weeks before the fair. The injuries were serious enough, according to that family member, that Lonnie's grandma went with him to the hospital. I have of course no access to the old files and I doubt, they still exist after that time, but what we do know is, that someone was actually treated in this time in a hospital under the name of the grandma. So, this explains, why the MEs weren't sure whether Lonnie was sexually abused the night of the murder. Older injuries, no semen (it had rained before Lonnie was found).
Why was Lonnie's granny's name used at the hospital instead of Lonnie's name?