IL IL - Joshua Summeries, 5 mos, Zion, 21 Aug 2013 *D. Thorpe guilty*

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They did hold a press conference but nothing really new. :(

Police were actively searching for the baby Thursday morning. Besides police, Zion residents have joined in the search for the missing baby boy. One man was looking through an alley with his three collies on Thursday morning.
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http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=9215049
 
I hope he is alive, but I doubt it....


Also just want to say I know we are not supposed to bash the victims, but yet another case of "new daddy"............the baby is 5 months old and the new boyfriend is obviously moved in, sleeping there and getting up to look after a baby that is not his.


Too quick!!!!!!!!!! yet again.
 
I keep checking for updates. I hope he isn't in Lake Michigan. They might never find him, if he is. :(
 
Still_Seek_Answers said:
The neighbor mentioned she did not even know they had a baby living there. That is scary. In my experience people notice babies. They are cute and cuddly and most often mothers are happily showing them off......so this fact scares me. I am also so angry over the version of the story that states the bf left and when he came back the baby was not with him, so the mother went to the babies fathers......WTH......who notices their baby is missing and does not instantly dial 911......This is happening so often now that it has become very scary.....
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I agree, Still_Seek_Answers. I can't remember a day this summer that I haven't watched my morning or evening news or have come to this forum only to hear/see/read about yet another child missing while in the care of one or both of their parents.
It's heartbreaking and yet makes my blood boil at the same time.
Almost as if it's an epidemic.

I remember being a young, new, separated mom....both me and my son lived with my parents.
Both my parents worked. It was just me and my son all day long.
Yes, there were several times I remember crying right along with my son because I didn't know what to do to calm him after he had been crying for what seemed like hours.
Twice I remember, when I couldn't calm my son, I made sure my son's diaper was dry, he had been fed, burped and didn't have a diaper pin (showing my age here) sticking out somewhere then put him in his crib (no blankets or bumpers) closed the door and walked out to the back yard.

New Moms, please do the same..... make sure your baby is fine, is safe, then walk outside and cool off. Get your bearings, calm yourself down, realize your baby's cry is the only way he/she knows how to communicate.
Your baby is not doing this to get back at you, to purposely make you angry or to ruin your sleep.
And FFS, you do NOT need a new boyfriend when you have a new baby......who the F has the time for a new boyfriend with all the time it takes to bond and adjust to a new baby??? !!! SMH
 
Peachy said:
Sources tell CBS 2 the mom told investigators a man had taken the baby out a window this morning. By about 1:45 this afternoon, she changed her story several times. She finally told investigators the baby was crying a lot last night. The boyfriend went to quiet the child. She hasn’t seen the baby since.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/08...PH&utm_source=topvph_news&utm_campaign=483974
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Why don't they just admit they cannot handle taking care of the baby and give to someone who would?

LOOK at this beautiful child! Who wouldn't want to take him?

I shake my head.


And now of course there will be no good end to this.
 
revampz said:
I hope he is alive, but I doubt it....


Also just want to say I know we are not supposed to bash the victims, but yet another case of "new daddy"............the baby is 5 months old and the new boyfriend is obviously moved in, sleeping there and getting up to look after a baby that is not his.


Too quick!!!!!!!!!! yet again.
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When I was going to nursing school one of the air headed nursing instructors announced that the highest incidence for child abuse was a single mother.


I happened to be a single mother at the time and I was infuriated.


I stood up in class and announced that the REASON the statistics look like that is because there are a whole bunch of weak willed, weak minded, addicted and alcoholic women out there willing to allow the next BOYFRIEND to come on in to her home and babysit while she's out of the home. Usually working.


You look to nature, many mammals do the same thing. If the male comes into the brood and the offspring are not his he will attempt to kill them.

Sadly with this societal issue I don't know what the answer is.
 
The two-day search for a missing Zion baby took a turn Thursday after police said they feared he might no longer be alive and called on residents to search their garbage cans.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-zion-missing-baby-0823-20130823,0,878306.story

It's a sad day when these type of stories don't surprise me anymore. :furious:

I find myself wondering if the information that the boyfriend was only out of the apartment for 10 minutes is credible. Lake Michigan isn't that far from where Joshua went missing. But I'd think it would take more than 10 minutes to dispose of this child in the lake.

This one is reminding me of Aveion Lewis's case. I hope LE has seperated any trash picked up on Tuesday in the area from which Joshua 'disappeared'......
 
10 pm news:
-still questioning boyfriend
-police think they are "much closer" to closing the case.
-believe Joshua is still local
-civilian K-9 specialty cadaver dog has arrived (they've found 3 bodies recently) and hope the dog will find the boy
-no charges yet
-Police say this could be wrapped up as early as tomorrow morning.
 
Was the mother sleeping when this occurred?
Because IF the baby woke them both up and he said "I'll handle it" and she went back to sleep...
Her sense of time could be totally off. You think you slept ten minutes but it was really an hour...
 
News reports above just don't sound good. Praying this little can be found soon.
 
We all go nuts over "stranger danger" but most kids are killed by those who are supposed to care for them.

Mom + Boyfriend who is not the baby's father + domestic violence = dead baby.

I'm sorry folks, I hope I am wrong, but that poor little guy is most likely gone. I only hope that it was quick and painless and not that they left him out there to die of dehydration.

I get so mad at these mothers for hooking up with these guys and forsaking their own children for a man!

(There are actually theories about this that state that a man has no biological imperative to take care of another man's child as it is not furthering the dispersion of his genetic material. Hence, these kids killed by boyfriends and stepfathers. Definitely a simplistic theory with lots of caveats, but interesting nonetheless.)
 
HesterMofet said:
We all go nuts over "stranger danger" but most kids are killed by those who are supposed to care for them.

Mom + Boyfriend who is not the baby's father + domestic violence = dead baby.

I'm sorry folks, I hope I am wrong, but that poor little guy is most likely gone. I only hope that it was quick and painless and not that they left him out there to die of dehydration.

I get so mad at these mothers for hooking up with these guys and forsaking their own children for a man!

(There are actually theories about this that state that a man has no biological imperative to take care of another man's child as it is not furthering the dispersion of his genetic material. Hence, these kids killed by boyfriends and stepfathers. Definitely a simplistic theory with lots of caveats, but interesting nonetheless.)
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Hmm, how about we direct our anger at the perpetrating men, and not give them shaky bio/evo excuses for why they kill children?

Humans - including these men - arent animals in the wild. These men should be held to human standards, not animal ones. :twocents:
 
All this LE work, all this peoplepower, all the citizens searching their properties, all the worried neighbors, citizens, strangers online, all this expense, & what do you bet the POI could end it all with a few words? Infuriating!
Assuming he killed this baby, the POI should not only go to prison, he should have to work a prison job to pay back the city of Zion & surrounding communities for their time & expenses.
This poor baby deserved so much better than this. I hope they find him soon.
 
Gardenlady said:
Hmm, how about we direct our anger at the perpetrating men, and not give them shaky bio/evo excuses for why they kill children?

Humans - including these men - arent animals in the wild. These men should be held to human standards, not animal ones. :twocents:
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I understand what you are writing here but what is the explanation then for the behavior?

Humans are after all just big, talking animals.

I say someone who kills a baby IS behaving like an animal and not a human.

Humans cannot claim to be domesticated because there was no one to domesticate them. Who's to say humans aren't still wild?
 
Police Search Landfill For Missing Zion Baby

The search is taking place at Zion Landfill at 701 Greenbay Road.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...issing-zion-Baby-220832701.html#ixzz2cofGEeo8


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Police in north suburban Zion have now focused their search efforts for a missing baby on a landfill 10 minutes from the boy's home.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=9216299
 
I understand what you are writing here but what is the explanation then for the behavior?

Humans are after all just big, talking animals.

I say someone who kills a baby IS behaving like an animal and not a human.

Humans cannot claim to be domesticated because there was no one to domesticate them. Who's to say humans aren't still wild?

Every time this happens {or Adriaunna or Erica or Alanna or young men shot for the thrill of it, etc, etc.} people say, "How?/Why? can people do this?"
If people feel they have no one to ultimately answer to, what is the deterrent? They certainly feel superior to LE and their peers, etc. & so assume they will not be caught and will not have to answer for their actions. If they believe what is taught now as fact - that "there is no God" - why should people be any different from animals (living by survival of the fittest)? Humankind is reaping what they sowed. They will have to answer for it. If I believed this is all there is, I wouldn't be able to get up and face the news tomorrow. There WILL be justice for these innocents.
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MsFacetious said:
Police Search Landfill For Missing Zion Baby

The search is taking place at Zion Landfill at 701 Greenbay Road.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...issing-zion-Baby-220832701.html#ixzz2cofGEeo8


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Police in north suburban Zion have now focused their search efforts for a missing baby on a landfill 10 minutes from the boy's home.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=9216299
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I knew I'd come back and see news that they're searching a landfill. :(
 
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