IL - Kenneka Jenkins, 19, found dead in hotel freezer, Rosemont, 10 Sept 2017 #1

[rsd1200]

I don't think it's been stated anywhere that she was missing for 2 hours. She called her sister around 1:30 am; according to police she's seen in footage in the lobby around 3:20 am; 15 minutes later she went into the kitchen freezer area.

I'm sure police have videos showing her and her friends (together or separately) leaving the room on the 9th floor and going towards the car, so they'll be able to work out a timeline.

I suspect her friends were with her in the lobby and that's why they haven't included that video, to protect the privacy of her friends, and possibly the action/inaction of the desk staff, who probably wouldn't have wanted a woman in that state in the lobby. It doesn't mean they're covering up, just that video surveillance isn't normally released to the public unless someone's a suspect in a crime.

As someone mentioned, some security video, at least in the past, suffers from timecode drift, ie is not completely reliable for determining time, but it could be corrected with other data, such as records of when a key was used to open a room. Some of this might be why the video is being examined forensically.

BBM
Agree
and, w/the regard to privacy, other patron's privacy as well.

I may have gotten the two hours confused with the sister talking to her two hours after she left home. This is a rather odd case. Lots of conflicts.

 

[eastcoasterinco]

I don't think it's been stated anywhere that she was missing for 2 hours. She called her sister around 1:30 am; according to police she's seen in footage in the lobby around 3:20 am; 15 minutes later she went into the kitchen freezer area .

Snipped for focus.

Just want to point out I think the OP got the 2 hours information from MSM interviews with KJ's mom regarding what the friends told her during the 4am phone call. Assuming something along the lines of "we've been looking for her for 2 hours".

This isn't verifiable, just comes from the victim's mother I believe

ETA: the mother also tells the 911 dispatcher the 2 hour information on the 911 call.


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[rsd1200]

Regarding the cleared up audio of the party - could

sizzurp

be mistakenly heard as

freezer ?

I believe it could be, and if that is found in her tox reports, it would explain a lot about her gait, and just being fall-down drunk. There would also be lots of questions for the other party goers too. Sharing your scrip is a no-no.

 

[rsd1200]

Snipped for focus.

Just want to point out I think the OP got the 2 hours information from MSM interviews with KJ's mom regarding what the friends told her during the 4am phone call. Assuming something along the lines of "we've been looking for her for 2 hours".

This isn't verifiable, just comes from the victim's mother I believe




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I think I'm OP, and I thought I'd heard that from an interview, with Mom, but couldn't find my link.

 

[mjs301]

Right? I want to see that also, her friends looking for her. They said they looked, and a lot of people myself included, agree that if a friend is missing we would look for them in this type of situation. Especially if we have their belongings on hand. That said I'm sure they looked around the lobby and such, but never thought to go down to basement. That's an honest possibility. I read somewhere that when they were searching at around 8:30 the next morning, they saw an employee or someone going in the kitchen and looking around, but not searching the freezer. I will try to find the article. I think after reviewing the tapes and seeing her go in and never coming out that they did a more thorough check and that's when they found her in the freezer later that afternoon. MOO.

 

[mjs301]

After following this case, reading and watching videos... here is my opinion. If they were planning to rape and murder someone, why live stream it? If someone is talking about rape, murder, freezers, why turn the music on to drown it out? Just turn live stream off. That makes little sense. After seeing the videos, seems like she was under the influance and disoriented... if someone was following her or doing something, why would the hotel go to great lengths to edit and cover it up? Makes less sense. My guess is that it's just hard to imagine how out of all places in a big hotel, she ended up in an unused kitchen in a walk in freezer? I can understand the family trying to figure that out... passing out in a hallway, a lobby couch, a bathroom, a closet, etc, ok, but a freezer? It's tough to imagine. So we are desperately trying to figure out a way how that would be possible. But when drunk and impaired, a lot of people end up in the wrong place unfortunately.

 

[tru2it4u]

I found an interesting article with the Daily Herald interviewing Kenneka Jenkins' mom.

"Her friend called me at 4:34 in the morning and stated to me that she was missing, I mean they couldn't find her. She had been lost for like 2 hours."

That's what her mom says in the video! Now there hasn't been anything saying that when they called her mom they told her she was missing for 2 hours!!! But if you read the article
"Jenkins' friends, who had her cellphone, reported her disappearance to Jenkins' mother after 4 a.m. Saturday. Martin said she called police soon after."

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/201...-freezer-how-did-she-unlock-both-double-doors

I know we can't post YouTube videos but now their is the original video surveillance floating out there that time stamps Kenneka walking towards the freeze at around 2:32AM....

My head is now spinning!!


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I posted it earlier today. But I'm so confused on times and stories, who knows anymore.


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[CARIIS]

Anything been reported on the conversation between sister and victim??

One would think that would be important no?

Mom would know no?

 

[mjs301]

Also it's possible once in the freezer she kept trying to open the freezer door like a normal door, not realizing it slides?! MOO. It'd be good to know what position they found her in.

 

[CARIIS]

Regarding the cleared up audio of the party - could

sizzurp

be mistakenly heard as

freezer ?

What is that?

 

[keeleydoll]

Also it's possible once in the freezer she kept trying to open the freezer door like a normal door, not realizing it slides?! MOO. It'd be good to know what position they found her in.

Some of them slide, but most that I've dealt with have like a button shaped knob thing that you have to push to get out. Like this

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[CARIIS]

Some of them slide, but most that I've dealt with have like a button shaped knob thing that you have to push to get out. Like this

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The activist guy in a presser saw the freezer and referred to two doors

In a presser with mom (pink sweater interview) mom used motions like it slides, so not sure.

 

[keeleydoll]

What is that?

Codeine cough syrup mixed with some kind of soda.


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[tru2it4u]

What is that?

I believe it's liquid codeine.


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[Spellbound]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-kenneka-jenkins-hotel-freezer-timeline-20170912-story.html

Here is a timeline of events that unfolded over the weekend at the hotel, as disclosed by family and police, followed by what we do not know about the case.
Timeline
• 11:30 p.m. Friday. Kenneka Jenkins leaves her West Side home to go to a party with friends in a hotel room at the Crowne Plaza Chicago O'Hare Hotel & Conference Center in Rosemont, according to her mother, Tereasa Martin.
• 1:30 a.m. Saturday. Jenkins' sister speaks to Jenkins by phone. The family says that's the last time they hear from her.
• 1:36 a.m. Saturday. A livestream video on Facebook appears to show the hotel room on the ninth floor where the party is being held. The video — which has gotten more than 4 million views — features a woman in mirrored sunglasses talking to the camera. Reflected in her glasses is the other side of the hotel room, where Jenkins appears to be sitting.
• 3:20 a.m. Saturday. Jenkins is seen on surveillance video "staggering" drunk near the front desk, according to authorities. The family says they aren't told about this until 10 p.m. that night.
• 4 a.m. Saturday. Jenkins' friends call her mother to say they lost track of Jenkins at the hotel. The friends say they are in the car Martin lent her daughter for the night, and they have Jenkins' cellphone, according to Martin.
• 5 a.m. Saturday. Jenkins' family go to the hotel looking for her. Martin says hotel staff told her they needed a missing persons report from police before they could start reviewing surveillance video. Martin calls Rosemont police and is told to wait a few hours before filing the report. They file the report later that morning.
• 1:15 p.m. Saturday. Police notify the hotel about the missing teen and a search begins on the ninth floor and the public areas of the hotel, according to Rosemont police.
• 3-4 p.m. Saturday. Jenkins' mother said she doesn't believe the hotel began reviewing surveillance video until the middle of the afternoon.
• 6 p.m. Saturday. Frustrated with the search, relatives say they begin knocking on room doors to see if any guests know anything. The hotel calls police to complain about the knocking. Martin said one of the responding officers agrees to view the surveillance video again.
• 10 p.m. Saturday. Police tell the family that Jenkins has been spotted on video from around 3:20 a.m. that day.
• 12:25 a.m. Sunday. Jenkins is discovered in a walk-in freezer in a vacant area of the hotel. She had been missing nearly 24 hours.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sa...reezer-death-interest-met-20170912-story.html

• 12:48 a.m. Sunday. Jenkins is pronounced dead, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office. The cause of death remains undetermined after an autopsy the next day, pending further studies and investigation.
• Around 5 a.m. Sunday. Martin is allowed to see her daughter's body. She says the body had been removed from the freezer, which appeared to have been defrosted. “Her hair had soaking water up on there," she told reporters.

 

[Spellbound]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ns-hotel-freezer-timeline-20170912-story.html

What We Don't Know
• What Jenkins was doing between the time she left home at 11:30 p.m. Friday and the time the video began around 1:35 a.m. Saturday.
• Who was in the hotel room. Police on Wednesday said they have interviewed 12 people involved in some way, eight of them of them people who were present during the hotel gathering and are seeking to interview four others they have identified who they know where there. "As interviews continue, the names and whereabouts of more people present that night are being discovered," police said in a release Wednesday. It's unknown if Jenkins knew all or most of those at the hotel room.
• What witnesses have told police about what went on in the room. Do they contradict each other? Jenkins' mother has said her friends’ stories about what happened have changed. Is anyone considered a suspect?
• Whether Jenkins left alone or with someone, and whether anyone else was with her at the front desk.
• Who finally found Jenkins? How? Police have not said whether video shows her entering the freezer or whether there was anyone with her.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sa...of-kenneka-jenkins-20170913-storygallery.html

• We don't know how Jenkins died or whether there were signs of trauma. Jenkins' family said they were initially told by police that Jenkins apparently let herself into the freezer while drunk and died inside. But a police spokesman said on Monday that nothing has been ruled out. The medical examiner's office says the cause of death remains undetermined pending further studies and investigation.
• Police initially said the freezer was running at the time, but a spokesman later appeared to back off that comment. It's also unknown whether there was a lever inside that would have allowed Jenkins to get out.

 

[CARIIS]

Right? I want to see that also, her friends looking for her. They said they looked, and a lot of people myself included, agree that if a friend is missing we would look for them in this type of situation. Especially if we have their belongings on hand. That said I'm sure they looked around the lobby and such, but never thought to go down to basement. That's an honest possibility. I read somewhere that when they were searching at around 8:30 the next morning, they saw an employee or someone going in the kitchen and looking around, but not searching the freezer. I will try to find the article. I think after reviewing the tapes and seeing her go in and never coming out that they did a more thorough check and that's when they found her in the freezer later that afternoon. MOO.

In terms of privacy LE had no issue releasing all 4 of them walking down the hallway -- they blurred the others out.

Thus far the only thing that has been rleased is endless disoriented walking.

We have seen no enter / exit the actual room.

We have seen no CCTV of front desk visit to to the room

We have seen no her getting to the kitchen

We have seen no mom and front desk interaction

We have seen no exit from them on the way to the car near the end

We have seen no video of anything that happened right in front of the actual room

We have seen no CCTV of the officer coming up to them when they were knocking on doors

We have seen no video of 45 young kids arriving and departing from a hotel within a three hour peroid.

We have seen no CCTV of the following day

The only thing out thus far is to support an accident - anything else that supports that or disputes that remains not available .

The only thing is the poor thing walking all over the place.

moo

 

[mjs301]

The activist guy in a presser saw the freezer and referred to two doors

In a presser with mom (pink sweater interview) mom used motions like it slides, so not sure.

Ohhh I saw this pic on a you tube video that looked like a sliding door. So much out there hard to keep up. This is obv my opinion only based on what I have seen but looked like the same floor tiles.

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[mjs301]

I apologize I'm on my phone and clearly replying to the wrong person! I was replying to the person who mentions double doors and showed the pic of the release button. Sorry!


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[CARIIS]

11:30 p.m. Friday. Kenneka Jenkins leaves her West Side home to go to a party with friends in a hotel room at the Crowne Plaza Chicago O'Hare Hotel & Conference Center in Rosemont, according to her mother, Tereasa Martin.

Anyone know drive time??