IL - Kenneka Jenkins, 19, found dead in hotel freezer, Rosemont, 10 Sept 2017 #2

[Tippy Lynn]

The hotel was booked with a stolen credit card and stolen identity. I think her "friends" spiked her drink and they also left her unattended when she was clearly not on this planet. JK was with shady and untrustworthy people. It's hard to say what else they might have done or been involved with.

 

[katydid23]

The hotel was booked with a stolen credit card and stolen identity. I think her "friends" spiked her drink and they also left her unattended when she was clearly not on this planet. JK was with shady and untrustworthy people. It's hard to say what else they might have done or been involved with.

I can easily believe she was drugged. But what confuses me is that no one was there, taking advantage of her being drugged. Usually beautiful young women are drugged so they can be taken advantage of.

Did that happen upstairs before she left? I wonder what forensics they found, if any? :cry:

 

[tru2it4u]

That they do. Unless there's an exit back there and I dont really see that, without a camera, unless the camers is on the outside of the building .

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If that is listed as a kitchen wouldn't there be an Emergency Exit back there as well that leads outside ? Probably along with a pull down fire alarm to set it off.




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[Elainera]

If that is listed as a kitchen wouldn't there be an Emergency Exit back there as well that leads outside ? Probably along with a pull down fire alarm to set it off.




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Yes I was wondering that too. Plus, the officer who found her said he is near the garbage disposal or some such - isn't there usually a back door to take the garbage out from?

 

[tru2it4u]

He said In the rear, Dock by the garbage. Don't quote me but it's definitely REAR DOCK and GARBAGE lol

There's no conspiracy here! But what I can't let go of is that I truly believe there is an Emergency Exit back there. IMOO


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[cwprincss]

My thinking is that she was lured down there and the friends came through an exit door and put her in the freezer. Then, they went back out the exit door and took the car with KJ keys. They were able to slip in and out without being seen because one of them worked there and had access to employee only areas. Especially considering there's no video of the friends looking for her. I truly believe this was planned.


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[Seajay]

People are going to believe what they want to believe and no amount of evidence will change their minds. The mother has been saying "murder" from the beginning and I believe that nothing they show her, even IF there had been video of her walking into the freezer, (which they are saying there is not) she would not believe it. Her mind is set. She lost her baby girl, in order for her to make sense of this senseless tragedy, someone HAS to have done something to her.

My husband did not believe in Global Warming. No matter what statistics and data I showed him, he would not accept it as proof. It was a government conspiracy to him. I gave up trying. He died with his belief.

I hope her mom finds peace in this but as long as she doesn't accept the truth of how her daughter died, I doubt that will ever happen. IMO

 

[Oregonsleuther]

So I think I figured out that there were two different hotel party rooms that night. Maybe someone already figured this out? Below are some things that keep me questioning things in this case. I think it's probably a tragic accident though and we may never know all the pieces as to what happened that night.

1. KJ's mom clearly states party on the 11th floor, yet Irene's video mentions a 9th floor room. At first I thought it was a miscommunication on the mom's part (going through a lot, bless her heart).
2. I noticed her mom doesn't fully trust what the friends are saying and feels like they might be lying.
3. Kenneka was separated from her phone, keys and friends.
4. Kenneka'a friends said they left her in the lobby to retrieve items, yet footage doesn't back that.

If you look at the video with Irene, you can see a mirror behind her and in the reflection of the mirror you can tell she is facing the window in the room. You can also see a bed frame against the wall to her left. This means the beds in this room are on the left side of the room if facing the window. In the other video, what appears to be a more hyperactive party, the bed frames are on the right wall if you are facing the window in the room. Watch both videos slowly and you can see the room layouts are opposite.

One party seems louder than the other and her friends appear to be in the quieter party, which, per Irene, was on the 9th floor. I didn't see her friends in the louder party.

This is speculation here, but I wonder if Kenneka maybe knew about the other party and ran up there leaving her phone and keys behind in the 9th floor room. Maybe there was a set time they were all leaving and maybe KJ was making her way to the car. Maybe the friends mentioned the 11th floor because that's where they felt she was last seen. If they didn't mention the 9th floor at all maybe because it was fraudulently purchased and they didn't want to be connected with that?

 

[rsd1200]

If that is listed as a kitchen wouldn't there be an Emergency Exit back there as well that leads outside ? Probably along with a pull down fire alarm to set it off.




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It could be located in another part of that kitchen that we don't see. I'm not real sure where we are seeing. They're building a tower next to the motel too. In Sept. 2016 on Google Maps, you can see that they are advertising for a restaurant to move into the building. Maybe the space was being renovated for a new business, and they were checking out the freezer so they'd left it on. The building was built in 1975, before the time building codes started changing (Beverly Hills Supper Club - 1977) so who knows what was included or not. They renovated in 2009 but I'm not sure what they renovated. Conference Trade seems to be the hotel's main money maker.

The officer says he's sitting out by the garbage which could very well be by a loading dock, or garage entrance into the building, but near the kitchen. Near the area to go into the Visibility Bar, you can exit to the patio, or out to the garage. I found this seemingly up to date .pdf that the motel had on their site. You can see where the patio exits on page five. There also seems to be a way to a tower. Idk if it is a pedway, or how it fits in with the hotel but it can be seen on the pdf below. It can't be seen on Google yet.
http://www.crowneplazaohare.com/pdf/doc-facility-1401167938.pdf

 

[wasnt_me]

Yeah, I definitely think it's possible it could've just been liquor.

Don't think it was GHB but I do think it could be Xanax, but if it was it was probably self administered.

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It does make one groggy but if you're up and walking around you can fight through it. If you're already sitting/laying you might fall asleep. It would also depend on the amount.

I have a theory. Her mom just had an operation and said she was at home on pain pills. Could KJ have taken some of the pills with her to the party?

I have another theory. We see gang symbols being thrown up in the videos. Could a gang have been hazing her and told her that she had to go to the freezer and sit there for X amount of time if she wanted in the gang? Maybe they sent her to steal food from the kitchen as a hazing act and panicked when she didn't come back. Maybe they checked the upstairs restaurants -- where they meant for her to go -- but found them gated down?

These are the only type of things I can think of for her to just go in the damn freezer on her own.

 

[possumheart]

I have a theory. Her mom just had an operation and said she was at home one pain pills. Could KJ have taken some of the pills with her to the party?

I have another theory. We see gang symbols being thrown up in the videos. Could a gang have been hazing her and told her that she had to go to the freezer and sit there for X amount of time if she wanted in the gang? Maybe they sent her to steal food from the kitchen as a hazing act and panicked when she didn't come back. Maybe they checked the upstairs restaurants -- where they meant for her to go -- but found them gated down?

These are the only type of things I can think of for her to just go in the damn freezer on her own.

We are thinking the same way.

 

[wasnt_me]

So I think I figured out that there were two different hotel party rooms that night. Maybe someone already figured this out? Below are some things that keep me questioning things in this case. I think it's probably a tragic accident though and we may never know all the pieces as to what happened that night.

1. KJ's mom clearly states party on the 11th floor, yet Irene's video mentions a 9th floor room. At first I thought it was a miscommunication on the mom's part (going through a lot, bless her heart).
2. I noticed her mom doesn't fully trust what the friends are saying and feels like they might be lying.
3. Kenneka was separated from her phone, keys and friends.
4. Kenneka'a friends said they left her in the lobby to retrieve items, yet footage doesn't back that.

If you look at the video with Irene, you can see a mirror behind her and in the reflection of the mirror you can tell she is facing the window in the room. You can also see a bed frame against the wall to her left. This means the beds in this room are on the left side of the room if facing the window. In the other video, what appears to be a more hyperactive party, the bed frames are on the right wall if you are facing the window in the room. Watch both videos slowly and you can see the room layouts are opposite.

One party seems louder than the other and her friends appear to be in the quieter party, which, per Irene, was on the 9th floor. I didn't see her friends in the louder party.

This is speculation here, but I wonder if Kenneka maybe knew about the other party and ran up there leaving her phone and keys behind in the 9th floor room. Maybe there was a set time they were all leaving and maybe KJ was making her way to the car. Maybe the friends mentioned the 11th floor because that's where they felt she was last seen. If they didn't mention the 9th floor at all maybe because it was fraudulently purchased and they didn't want to be connected with that?

The room changes how it looks because sometimes the people video tape facing the action, and sometimes, they videotape with the camera rotated, facing themselves.

When the camera facing you, it's mirrored. So everything switches sides. So when they are filming the scene, not themselves, that is the correct way the furniture was.

I was driven crazy confused by where things were in the different videos until I figured that out. Also, Irene's FB live is at around 130am. The other one from the guy is at about 230am. There is also a snapchat at 235am that shows KJ drinking and holding something that lights up while the camera is facing her.

I think the mother was confused about the 11th floor because no news articles have said there were two floors of partying going on.

In my view, it wasn't that one party seemed louder. It was that people actually arrived to the same party. Notice in the party footage that Irene is STILL on the same bed, in the same spot facing the window, when all the singing and dancing is going on. So it's the same room for all the footage we've seen, and it's highly strange that we haven't seen more footage for as much as these ladies lived on their live feeds. I saw some other videos of them, and it seems they loved singing and recording on Live. They also never seem more than 5 feet away from each other in their videos.

So I don't know how KJ could have gotten away from them. If you have had a chance to see other videos of them, you'll see that they are rarley far from each other.

Speaking of which, there is a video of Kenneka and crew dancing. She is drunk if you ask me, but when she dances herself all the way down to the floor, she does not miss a beat. So it's very scary to see her like she is at the hotel.

 

[wasnt_me]

Here are a few things I'd like to know about this situation:

1. What time did Irene arrive at the hotel?

2. If KJ and crew left her house around 1130pm, it took 45 minutes to get to the hotel, and they arrived at 115am, then what were they doing for the extra hour of time? Did they go eat? Had they started drinking already? Because there is absolutely no food whatsoever at that party.

3. Do you see a lot of people drinking or even mixing drinks at this party? I have to go back and look, but how many people were holding cups? Maybe it was a pill/smoke out. IDK.

4. Do Irene and Kenneka have the same outfit? Jean jackets and ripped jeans with a bra? Was it a coincidence that she and the birthday girl dressed alike? You can see Irene's clothes in the 230am party video.

5. If you have watched other videos like the elevator, the car partying, and the one where KJ parties in pink, Do you notice that she is not acting the same ways in the September party footage? Why is her demeanor so different?

Idk. I'm starting to really think KJ might have taken one or two of her mom's pain pills, and taking them changed how she acted. Then, she might have mixed it with the wrong drink afterward. Because in her other videos, she looks like the life of the party. It's not the same way once she is in this hotel room.

Why? Is she just shy among a big group? Is she zoned out on her mom's pills? Is she mad at someone in the room? Does she just act playful and silly only around her crew?

ETA

In the other thread, I had questioned someone who said we heard Kenneka in the room, saying, "I am enjoying myself." I asked how we know that's here with 6 other women in the room. I now believe it might be her from listening to her sing on that one video where she is in pink. If you want to see it type " 6rIS7S_9uvs " into YT.

In this video does she seem intoxicated? See her dance at the end? drunk but coordinated, right?

Now, I only want to discuss this part for motives.People think only the guys want to rape KJ, but what if some of these women were gay? I wonder this because we see mostly women at the party. We see women making out at the party. I saw KJ hugging a woan who admitted being gay on her own video while talking about Irene getting arrested. So is it farfetched that there might be some romantic jealousy or competition among the women?

 

[gsue415]

If you made a twitter account, only one Twitter account can be made with that name. Just like on here there can be only one CARIIS.

On Twitter, you can allow people to "Follow" your posts, or you can request to "Follow" other people's posts that you find entertaining or informative.

You can like, and share, other folk's content on their Twitter pages, to your Twitter page. You can only respond to other people's original post. You can't make a post on someone else's Twitter page, as them, though.

I'm not a big Twitter user, so I may have left something out or not explained it very well.

If she left twitter open on phone they could post as her

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[Miss Magnolia]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/09/...freezer-death/

"There’s a reason the public hasn’t seen surveillance video of Kenneka Jenkins walking into the hotel freezer where her body was found earlier this month.

It doesn’t exist, a spokesperson for the Crowne Plaza Chicago O’Hare Hotel & Conference Center tells CBS 2’s Audrina Bigos.

More specifically, there is no video camera trained on the freezer."

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I find that hard to believe. In a convention center/huge airport/ etc hotel there is NO camera on the walk in with $$$ meat, seafood, etc? Even mom and pop hole in the walls have cameras on on their walk ins due to THEFT by employees or break ins, (ie: insurance purposes and a beat down for those that stole...)

It could be because this area of the hotel was under construction/remodeling and the camera was not installed or taken down for repair in that area at the time.

 

[verbiage]

I have a theory. Her mom just had an operation and said she was at home on pain pills. Could KJ have taken some of the pills with her to the party?

I have another theory. We see gang symbols being thrown up in the videos. Could a gang have been hazing her and told her that she had to go to the freezer and sit there for X amount of time if she wanted in the gang? Maybe they sent her to steal food from the kitchen as a hazing act and panicked when she didn't come back. Maybe they checked the upstairs restaurants -- where they meant for her to go -- but found them gated down?

These are the only type of things I can think of for her to just go in the damn freezer on her own.

I'd say it's a possibility to the first part and probably not to the 2nd part. Gang hazing is more get jumped for 5 minutes than sit in a freezer in my opinion and I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe there was any gang related drama. Everyone involved seemed to know each other at least as familiar faces and there didn't seem to be any tension between parties or aggression shown. I think she was just shyer around more people but able to be herself amongst closer friends.

 

[Grouchymom]

It could be because this area of the hotel was under construction/remodeling and the camera was not installed or taken down for repair in that area at the time.

I bet there is a camera there now after all of this.

 

[Spellbound]

It could be located in another part of that kitchen that we don't see. I'm not real sure where we are seeing. They're building a tower next to the motel too. In Sept. 2016 on Google Maps, you can see that they are advertising for a restaurant to move into the building. Maybe the space was being renovated for a new business, and they were checking out the freezer so they'd left it on. The building was built in 1975, before the time building codes started changing (Beverly Hills Supper Club - 1977) so who knows what was included or not. They renovated in 2009 but I'm not sure what they renovated. Conference Trade seems to be the hotel's main money maker.

The officer says he's sitting out by the garbage which could very well be by a loading dock, or garage entrance into the building, but near the kitchen. Near the area to go into the Visibility Bar, you can exit to the patio, or out to the garage. I found this seemingly up to date .pdf that the motel had on their site. You can see where the patio exits on page five. There also seems to be a way to a tower. Idk if it is a pedway, or how it fits in with the hotel but it can be seen on the pdf below. It can't be seen on Google yet.
http://www.crowneplazaohare.com/pdf/doc-facility-1401167938.pdf

best layout floorplan I have seen. Thanks!

I haven't gone back to listen, but could the officer have said he found her "by the garage" instead of "garbage"?

ETA ... I listened again, It is definitely "I'm in the rear, by the dock area, by the garbage"

 

[Grouchymom]

I have walked around that hotel in every map I can find and can not find any dumpsters. I am beginning to wonder if the have an incinerator. They could have used a compactor that fed to the outside but a hotel that size should have some dumpsters somewhere.

 

[tru2it4u]

Morning y'all !
FWIW, this is a old hotel that has undergone construction a few times. But I'm thinking that a good part of that basement isn't just conference halls and an area of a kitchen. I think this a huge area where they kept storage, an area of the "kitchen" , supplies etc. where else would a big mamma hotel keep a great deal of supplies and what not. IMO

Carry on. To Dunkin' Donuts I go. Nothing like an autistic son with a very strict routine in the AM! Lol


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