Deceased/Not Found IL - Yingying Zhang, 26, Urbana, 9 June 2017 #2 *Arrest*

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that image in the tweet is too far away to know if it's him or not
 
thekarmabus said:
Apologies, I did not mean it in a way that was putting down people with fetishes in general. A page dedicated to fantasy play regarding abduction and kidnapping imo is very dangerous. Abductions imo are not fantasy. They are a reality for many and a person such as this guy used the site perhaps for tips.


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People have lots of fetishes that are roleplay and imitate bad things that happen in real life. The taboo brings the excitement, whether it be kidnapping, rape, incest or even things such as cutting. There is a difference between consenting fetish roleplay and criminal behavior. The line is hard to distinguish for more vanilla folks, but trust me ....They're two totally different activities.

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LadyL said:
the bus driver maybe didn't see her or was late on his/her run or even if s/he should've stopped, it is not their fault that a murderer came along ... that's a very slippery slope
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mrsobrien said:
I grew up a bus rider. Another reason a bus may not stop is when it is at legal full capacity. Often, in my city, and extra bus would be dispatched asap to collect the folks that were not picked up by the first one.
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A few pages back I read she was standing on the wrong side of the street that's why he didn't stop.

(Please forgive my lazy posting, I'm too tired now to go back and search for it. Hopefully someone else remembers.)
 
mbison said:
Seeing that she unsuccessfully tried to flag down a bus ten minutes before getting snatched makes me sad. It also brings back bad memories of me running after busses on campus back when I had back-to-back classes that were a mile apart. I would like to see this video, I really hope the bus driver wasn't at fault.

Is BC's wife's Facebook off limits for discussion?
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similar to the abduction and murder of daniel moorecombe here in australia
he was only 13, flagged a bus which didn't stop because it was running late and there was another bus behind it
daniel disappear in the time in between


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PhoneJockey said:
People have lots of fetishes that are roleplay and imitate bad things that happen in real life. The taboo brings the excitement, whether it be kidnapping, rape, incest or even things such as cutting. There is a difference between consenting fetish roleplay and criminal behavior. The line is hard to distinguish for more vanilla folks, but trust me ....They're two totally different activities.

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Welcome!

Something that stood out to me while surfing through Abduction 101 in the wee hours was the emphasis on informed consent, or "consensual nonconsent", communication of personal limits, and safety. While abduction is not my thing, the above things lowered my redflag alerts significantly.

The most alarming topic I saw was regarding the development of a fantasy kidnapping app, where folks can map themselves and make themselves available for abduction. *shudder*
 
Elainera said:
A few pages back I read she was standing on the wrong side of the street that's why he didn't stop.

(Please forgive my lazy posting, I'm too tired now to go back and search for it. Hopefully someone else remembers.)
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You're correct. It has been reported that Yingying was not standing on the correct side of the street for entering the bus she tried to flag down, which is why the bus didn't stop for her.

That said, I don't think anyone is saying that the bus driver is responsible for Yingying's kidnapping. Brendt Christensen is the kidnapper. The bus not stopping was just one of several things that did not go as planned for Yingying that day even before BC kidnapped her.
 
liltexans said:
You're correct. It has been reported that Yingying was not standing on the correct side of the street for entering the bus she tried to flag down, which is why the bus didn't stop for her.

That said, I don't think anyone is saying that the bus driver is responsible for Yingying's kidnapping. Brendt Christensen is the kidnapper. The bus not stopping was just one of several things that did not go as planned for Yingying that day even before BC kidnapped her.
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It is so often a set of circumstances that lead to this kind of thing.
 
Calzone said:
There is a lake across the street. Went by today expecting divers but there were none.
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That I find puzzling. :thinking:

Unless LE are already pretty sure about a different area and are still working on him to narrow it down?
 
liltexans said:
[video=twitter;881348531696660484]https://twitter.com/news_gazette/status/881348531696660484[/video]
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Typical News-Gazette.

Headline: Accused was among crowd on Thursday

Story actually reads,"A photo circulating on Twitter shows a man resembling Christensen standing behind a crowd as the march is about to begin. Asked about the photo, FBI spokeman Brad Ware declined comment."

So they ran a headline stating BC was there, but didn't get positive ID from an official source. I'm not saying he wasn't there, but N-G did jump the gun with a poorly written headline. Should have implied he possibly attended.

If someone was present at march and could recall seeing BC, they better come forward and say something to investigators because that would likely help their case. The photo depicts a man who likely resembles him, but the image quality is almost too lacking here.
 
[video=twitter;881367508757999616]https://twitter.com/mtarm/status/881367508757999616[/video]
 
Hong Lei, China’s general consul in Chicago, visited Zhang’s family on Saturday when he expressed condolences. Hong condemned the cruelty by the suspect and urged the U.S. judicial system to hold a fair trial and mete out harsh punishment to the man charged in the case.

https://apnews.com/119bb910c832494896f8f40dda44f75a
 
LadyL said:
that image in the tweet is too far away to know if it's him or not
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I think there are elements that are very distinctive: the hair growing in the middle of the forehead, but otherwise receding hairline; the long oval face; a solid build, and a black t-shirt, in all his photos he wears one. Adding to which, he would be more likely to be there than any random look-alike guy on campus. I think it's him.

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Satchie said:
I think there are elements that are very distinctive: the hair growing in the middle of the forehead, but otherwise receding hairline; the long oval face; a solid build, and a black t-shirt, in all his photos he wears one. Adding to which, he would be more likely to be there than any random look-alike guy on campus. I think it's him.

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You don't think that that man looks older and heavier set? I find men with facial hair with the same colouring all look a bit similar to me.
 
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