IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 - #33

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In regard to RL not being truthful.. here is what I have been thinking.

People showed up at his door on Feb 13th at 6:30pm, when he got home, according to him. Not sure if, after the neighbour/search party volunteer asked him if they could search his land, the police may have also had a discussion with him.

In any case, he may have been intoxicated at the time? Or not.

Then the following day around noon, the bodies are found on his land. I'm sure that since this was the case, RL would have been one of the very first people questioned by police.

Whatever the details and specifics of his court cases and probation and sentences are at, we may not be privy to everything at this point. Perhaps he is or isn't allowed to drive at this point. Do we even know whether RL has a drivers license any more? Is it possible he could have let it go for whatever reason? Do we know for sure that he doesn't have yet another DUI in the works for which he has not yet been convicted, but he may still have stipulations in effect which do not allow him to drive?

I'm thinking that he may have told officers that he was not home, and that he had gone wherever, and he was driven there by Mr.X. (Perhaps a friend?). And police took it at face value. Then later on, when police started to backtrack when they saw how many tips they had and yet nothing was really yielding results, or even just later on in the course of the investigation... they get to the point where they are now questioning Mr.X, and Mr.X says, um no, I did not drive RL anywhere that day. Or.. the fish store had video, which was reviewed and he was not on the video.. whatever. Maybe RL was drinking in the bar, or doing some other thing that he shouldn't have been doing, but he couldn't tell police that because he knew he'd be screwing himself, for whatever reason. So then they requestion RL, and they find out he lied, and why. So they take him into custody, LE is massively PO'd at him for lying, and now LE is faced with once again clearing RL.. but perhaps it is not so easy. RL was supposed to have had an alibi, but sometimes whatever one is doing at a certain time cannot be corroborated by anyone. So now they possibly cannot clear him one way or the other.

I was thinking it was awfully strict that they had taken RL into custody at *this* particular time, just because of how bad it will look to the community. This could explain that. And now they have searched his buildings and home, and taken what is presumably his vehicle to see if they can find anything that will conclude one thing or another. If they find DNA from the girls in his vehicle, he'll be in a boatload of trouble. If they find no sign of the girls, then whatever his *new* alibi is, might carry more weight.

LE were quoted as saying the BG is about 30 years younger than RL. It has been said on here that his gait is the same, the way he holds his shoulders and arms is the same, etc., but I'm finding none of that to be true. To me, it looks like his gait isn't the same at all. BG's knees come up much higher than RL's while walking. RL looks like he is much stouter than BG to me. BG looks to me like he has chin hair, which is salt and peppered. There are a few photos of other men I've seen which look much closer to BG than RL does. And it just doesn't make sense to me that RL would kill the girls or bring their bodies to his very own land. And I can't see him giving interviews to the media like that, saying 'down the hill, walking the land, etc., if it was him. Doesn't add up. Nevermind that the man is almost 80 years old, and has lived there in the same place for over 50 years. I haven't heard of any violence or sexual type of charges in the past against him. One doesn't just suddenly, just before he turns 80, turn into a child killer, does one?

Is it possible that RL is protecting someone, and refusing to cooperate about that potential person, and so police are laying it on thick in the hopes that he'll crack?
 
(I was so distracted by this thread yesterday that I gathered some bottled waters and carried them into the kitchen to make a pot of coffee and was THIS CLOSE to pouring them into the toaster when I realized "shoot, wrong appliance!")

Who knew it was a thing?

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But it doesn't have to be trespassers. RL and family and friends could walk them often enough that they stay worn. JMO


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If that bridge area is popular with kids, which was said early on, I can pretty much guarantee that kids are going through the wooded areas there all the time - and not just on RL's property.
 
But it doesn't have to be trespassers. RL and family and friends could walk them often enough that they stay worn. JMO


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It could be livestock paths.
 
What all is farmed on that property? Any chance the girls picked something? I have no idea what grows right now as I am green thumb challenged.

Probably the wrong time of year for that. Even too early to plant anything new.
 
A 19 yr old may lie in these circumstances.

A 77 yr old man has to know they are doing a double murder investigation and not there for his driving issues.

I question his thinking (maybe he's an habitual liar) and his blood levels.

Maybe he lived ignoring the law for decades, in his little corner.

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Just a friendly :bump:
 
Respectfully, I think feeling angry, as well as sad, scared, and any other number of feelings, all at the same time, would be appropriate for a property owner in that position. IMO. Maybe it's not the nicest thing that part of him was possibly thinking "why did it have to be MY property that was violated in this way?" but it would be a normal response mixed in with all the other feelings, including sadness for the girls. Including, possibly, a feeling of guilt for being upset about his property when in the grand scheme of things it's not important at all compared to the pain and loss experienced by the girls and their loved ones.

Maybe he doesn't like today's teenagers when he isn't shaken by a gruesome murder of 2 little girls but remembers instead how his boy was "playing around here all the time when he was 13yo" (long time ago).

http://www.wpta21.com/story/34940044/police-search-property-where-delphi-teens-were-found-dead
 
It could be livestock paths.

Or more likely packed down by deer.

Being an old country boy, it doesn't take many people or many years to tamp down a "trail" or a "path"... I've hiked places on my grandparents land where I know less than 1 person has walked on in 10 years... and there still is a semblance of a flatter path that is there. Deer are lazy too! They take the easiest route possible.
 
I'm going to assume maybe he/she thinks this was under the jacket? Kind of an abrupt way to ask him to clarify tho.

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BBM - and that my friend is why making assumptions is never a good idea. It may have come off to you as abrupt but it was not intended in any way to be so. The person posted a picture with no explanation whatsoever. I asked why.

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Ok, not going to belabor this point so in conclusion I will say that you are not saying that the property owner himsef or LE said that people have been cutting though his property. Big difference. If they are paths you noticed, then all I suggest is you state it is your opinion.
I wasn't talking about trespassers - and trespassers only - I was talking about the condition of the paths which show they are regularly traversed. So no, it is not my opinion and I won't be stating such a thing.
 
I'm going to assume maybe he/she thinks this was under the jacket? Kind of an abrupt way to ask him to clarify tho.

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100% correct. Post has been edited for clarity.
 
The 77-year-old Logan has given many interviews to media organizations, including the Herald Journal, saying he was deeply upset that the girls were found on the property where he raised his son and has lived for 53 years.

“My home was violated. It’s been raped,” he said. “I can’t put a name on the emotion I feel.”

http://www.newsbug.info/monticello_...cle_7f349e5e-0b83-11e7-9a0b-1715669266c5.html

I must have missed that interview. It kind of creeps me out that he used the term Rape. I would think that there were many terms that RL could have substituted.
 
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