MO...Perhaps the searchers just didn't find the bodies that night. They got permission to search at ~6:30 and possibly had an hour or so of daylight at that. DSL didn't go into effect until 3/4. I think they were there all along...
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I questioned this last night and got no response. I must have missed it too.
My final thought on him not being disguised. Look at the Unabomber, he used sunglasses. So this guy "planned" on being disguised and forgot to bring sunglasses for the early afternoon stalking. Sunglasses would have made it much harder to recognize someone. Yet he did not which leads me to believe he did not plan on wearing extra clothing to disguise himself when sunglasses would be easier and less creepy.
I am really interested in more details of how you think the crime was committed. If it was a drifter just passing through who saw an opportunity, do you think it was the first time he killed? Also what do you think the details are regarding when he met up with them, how he led the girls to where they were found and when, and by what means, what direction and at what time was he able to leave the scene undetected. If he's new to the area do you think he's still there? I'm just trying to get a fresh perspective on things maybe we haven't thought of before. TIA
I do not think LE has said they were "forced to walk down a road" I think that was a posters impression based on the audio LE released and the poster made a statement that could be taken as fact instead of using the IMO...
Personally, I do not think it was his first time. I base that on what I've heard elsewhere hat we cannot address here. I think he may have just been out "trolling" and either came across them earlier on the trail and doubled back or watched them enter and followed. I doubt he assumed he had time or opportunity to take them elsewhere to commit the acts then return them - that it happened where they were found or near there. He may have started moving them and got spooked or something. I do not the k he would still be around unless he's totally insane, arrogant or a complete narcissist who can't imagine being caught. The girls may just not have been found the first night because it was dark. Could be that simple. Often times people who commit crimes don't really have an escape route planned. They just walk away with no urgency and don't draw attention to themselves - because they have no conscience like the rest of us.
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This article is from March 6thKeep in mind that LE has said they don't have any evidence that BG is a serial killer.
http://www.jconline.com/story/news/...delphi-columbus-deaths-not-relaated/98801456/
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This article is from March 6th
MO...Perhaps the searchers just didn't find the bodies that night. They got permission to search at ~6:30 and possibly had an hour or so of daylight at that. DSL didn't go into effect until 3/4. I think they were there all along...
Hi! I'm not new to this site but I am new to posting in this thread [I am a lurker, lol if you couldn't tell by my 10 posts]. I usually read these when my 1.5 yr old son is asleep
I've been reading as much as I can and, agonizingly enough, reading almost ALL the threads... skimming a few posts, I admit. But- still! I've been paying attention. It's amazing to see how amazing some of you are at editing a picture to get a better idea where BG was standing & where the girls could have been possibly. Even going to the area to take a picture. This place is really something! Really makes my brain work and think of everything.
Now, just my MOO & JMO of everything I've thought of! Sorry if some of what I said is :deadhorse:
I don't think BG & RL are the same. Their builds and voices are different to me. I do, however... think RL knows them. I can't really say much else because I think it goes against the rules here of sleuthing so
When I listen to the audio... I hear "Go down the hill". And he doesn't sound out of breathe or worried. More of a matter-of-fact & ordering if you will.. like how you give directions. Which is scary in itself but also amazing she was able to record that so we have it! To me, from his voice... he has an accent from how he says "hill" like southern or something? "Heel" is how I am hearing it.. he also sounds like he is in his late 30s to 40s. I think he is a local from the voice, JMO.
I don't think BG was overdressed BUT I do think he had things hiding in his jacket to prepare for this... It just seems bulkier than what a jacket would. Even if he's wearing 3 jackets (could be three with how sometimes there is more than 2 jackets underneath). JMO, i think this was planned and he somehow knew they were going that day. As some were saying... her stuff was public and, JMO, maybe BG was stalking all this and, being a small town (????) he was able to find out when they were going. Maybe, MOO, Facebook posts or IG or something?!?? that he found out to go there.
I also think they ran into him earlier.. he said something to them or just gave off a weird vibe. I've been in that situation where someone gave me a weird vibe more than once and felt like they were following me so I quickly ran back to where there was multiple people. Anyways... there is a reason she was recording BG. They probably saw him before and maybe he was saying something in the video or maybe the girls were since LE hasn't released the video so maybe there is evidence of that as well? I just think the girls recorded BG on the bridge because they knew something bad was about to happen and being smart in getting as much evidence as they could :whine:
I hope BG is found... This story makes me so sad and I always check in every day to read, hoping for some more clues or a new update. This reminds me of the other case with 2 girls found in the woods. Can't remember their names at the moment... pregnancy / mom brain, sorry lol.
Hope I didn't break any rules, lol.
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Personally, I do not think it was his first time. I base that on what I've heard elsewhere hat we cannot address here. I think he may have just been out "trolling" and either came across them earlier on the trail and doubled back or watched them enter and followed. I doubt he assumed he had time or opportunity to take them elsewhere to commit the acts then return them - that it happened where they were found or near there. He may have started moving them and got spooked or something. I do not the k he would still be around unless he's totally insane, arrogant or a complete narcissist who can't imagine being caught. The girls may just not have been found the first night because it was dark. Could be that simple. Often times people who commit crimes don't really have an escape route planned. They just walk away with no urgency and don't draw attention to themselves - because they have no conscience like the rest of us. They are workmanlike about it. It's what they do.
I realize that's not real sexy but it's more often the case. Henry Lee Lucas killed a ton of people and just moved on down the road. It's just what he did.
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I questioned this last night and got no response. I must have missed it too.
Falling Down posted last night: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...i-13-Februray-2017-36&p=13252743#post13252743
The other house was at the end of the road they were forced to walk down to.
Which IMHO brings up BG's age. He must have been young enough to chase them.
Whenever I see a smaill time frame I tbink of Gabby DoolinThis is of course certainly possible. Based on previous discussions, this would make the killer's timeline extremely tight. If he abducted them immediately after Abby's picture was taken on the bridge that would give him very little time. Keep in mind in that picture there was no BG on the bridge. So give him 10 minutes to show up now it's 2:20. Assuming no car then a 30 minute walk to where they were found ,slowly and quietly with a gun to their backs to keep them in control. It's 2:50 by the time they are in the spot where they were found. It has been reported early on that family was present and calling for them by 4:00pm. That leaves only 1 hour and 10 minutes at most for BG to commit the crimes and get out of dodge, in broad daylight. Certainly possible, but we also have the comments of Libby's grandfather that her phone was pinging around town. This really close timeline is one reason why I believe both girls were not sexually assaulted. JMO..
DELPHI, Ind. –- Indiana State Police posts have added more resources to assist in the investigation of two teen girls murdered in Delphi over a month ago.
Each ISP post has an investigation squad and troopers have been assigned to follow up on tips in their assigned post areas.
The Indianapolis squad has been assigned 140 tips in the past two weeks and troopers are actively checking on every single one.
Achey said his client had a hearing Wednesday for an unrelated case.
“Well, it essentially means that we asked the court to set a bond or to let him go on some sort of community corrections program like home detention or work release prior to the fact finding or prior to the trial in the OWI probation violation,” he said.
Thanks. If you go to GH's video, it will show ( and also explain in a conversation between the two of us, "Newest Comments"), that the frame/video Libby took of the POI/BG rather aligns perfectly with him being at the level of the 5th platform or shortly thereafter.
The tricky part to align the existing POI/BG pic with surroundings like the key tree RRTs and gaps in-between have to do with the angle of the existing youtube video of the bridge GH used ( and so am I) in combination with the angle of where Libby was standing ( if she took the video herself) and the zoom factor used on her cell phone.
All IMO
-Nin
[video=youtube;uBE422LFIdg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBE422LFIdg[/video]
Man, things sure get far afield here. Disguises? Fall guys? Planted evidence? Moving bodies? Kill kits? Framing? More times than not, the simplest answer is the right one.
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Okay, having read the above post, it makes sense to me, too, that they may well have run into him already. But do we know, with certainty, that her phone pinged around town AFTER they were dropped off at the bridge? Because NO WAY would the killer knowingly have that phone with her/them, and then leave it at the site where they were found. Nor we he take it with him (without them) and then later return it. So do we know if those pings were, in fact, AFTER they were left off at the bridge?