IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #54

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Confusion said:
Sorry in advance that this will probably be another long one. :blushing: I hate the idea of casting suspicion on a specific person without any evidence, but I hope this is acceptable since it doesn't name the person (if he even exists.) Every time someone mentions LE saying that RL is not considered a suspect but is part of the investigation or that they're looking to clear him or make him more of a suspect, etc., I started trying to come up with ways that he could have been involved indirectly without having any idea what had happened. This is the best I've come up with.

RL has no license, but he has been said to have gone to Lafayette that day. There is no evidence I've seen that he drove there since that wasn't included in the charges that he was convicted of or those that were dropped. If that's the case, he must have had someone else drive him there. If so, they either took RL's vehicle or the driver's, I'm going on the assumption that they took RL's. I'm also going to base this on the driver being a female, although it could fit just as well for a male.

If the driver had planned on taking RL's vehicle, she may have gotten a ride to RL's place for a few reasons. She may not have a vehicle of her own, or hers may not have been running at the time; she may be married with just one vehicle in the family; she may have left her car home for her husband, boyfriend, child, parent, or whatever to use for the day. I'm sure there could be other reasons, but those are the most obvious to me.

The person she got a ride from could have been BG. They may have driven by as the girls were being dropped off by the sister and seen them heading down the trail. When he dropped her off and she and RL left, he could have parked at RL's house or over by the grain bin, knowing that he wouldn't be home for a few hours. Alternatively, it may be that he dropped her off at RL's and saw the girls being dropped off on his way home. Either way, he could have had some extra clothes in the vehicle such as a coat in case it cooled off, hoodie if it got cooler but not cold or too cold for just a light jacket, and whatever else he had with him in the picture.

It may have taken him longer than expected to actually do anything because there were a few other people around for a short time, so he didn't approach them directly until about 90 minutes after they got there. He could have done whatever he did to them, left them where they were found, stayed somewhat hidden in the wooded area until he was sure there was nobody around to see him and left. He could then just go home, clean up if needed, dispose of anything that might point to him for the crime, and wait for a call to go pick the driver up at RL's.

Very unlikely tale, but not impossible. I know it's unlikely that RL's driver had to be dropped off and picked up, but I'm tired of repeatedly going over the same things in my mind. As off the wall as some of my ideas are, I keep hoping that one of them will spark a much more feasible idea in someone else. The above is all from my mind and based very loosely on facts that have been shared.

MOO
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This is much more appropriate than the horrors my mind puts me through. Keep it up. It is too easy for me to get lost in the grotesque knock of reality.
 
Confusion said:
I had wondered if he was BG without his extra clothes or an accomplice, but I think they said they had talked to and cleared everybody known to be there that day except for BG. MOO
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LE said later on that they had found some people they had interviewed had lied. I think that's how they ended up charging RL with his charges.
 
FACEBOOK LIVE BROADCAST - Families of Abigail and Liberty Reveal plans to build softball field in Kokomo honoring the Girls and Express Faith in LE 4-27-17

ETA also linked in the Media Thread
 
It seems that Libby had an iPhone. At this pc her grandmother just stated she would FaceTime Abby's iPad while they even ate or walked around the house.
 
her said:
It seems that Libby had an iPhone. At this pc her grandmother just stated she would FaceTime Abby's iPad while they even ate or walked around the house.
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We can thank the Lord for the blessings of modern technology. Long ago a B/W photo would be all.
 
Looked up the rock band who is giving the concert. Saving Abel. The 1 song "Addicted" sure is a raunchy video :(. JMO
 
tlcya said:
FACEBOOK LIVE BROADCAST - Families of Abigail and Liberty Reveal plans to build softball field in Kokomo honoring the Girls and Express Faith in LE 4-27-17

ETA also linked in the Media Thread
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That made me really quite sad when they finished talking enthusiastically about the concert and asked if anyone had any questions, only to be met by silence. Pass the mike over to MP and all the reporters have questions about the case and if there is any new info. I understand we are all desperate to know but cmon.
 
skibaboo said:
That made me really quite sad when they finished talking enthusiastically about the concert and asked if anyone had any questions, only to be met by silence. Pass the mike over to MP and all the reporters have questions about the case and if there is any new info. I understand we are all desperate to know but cmon.
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They announced at the beginning--no new news about the case. I know.
 
cindersoot said:
I need opinions, do you think BG is wearing a holster? If a holster would left handed I assume. Does anyone see rivets on the holster?
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I am not sure about rivets. I do agree with you about BG most likely being left handed.

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Lilowlet said:
Yvw it was surprising to me to see that.[/QUOTE

Yes, Lilo, thank you for that link. I had heard about it before but couldn't find it. As Shiresleuth mentioned, it was surprising to see the car fade away. Kinda spooky.
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This isn't a passive aggressive post at anyone on here. I have followed hundreds of crimes, been a member here (though quietly, for the most part) for four years, and have written several true crime books myself. I've never actually seen public reaction and speculation like this one, though. In its own way, it's fascinating. I don't know how to feel about people who claim to have "inside information" (without revealing sources) and then give detailed accounts regarding the crime and what happened. Until that information is actually released by someone I trust (law enforcement, families, etc.) it makes me feel kind of icky. Nobody has done that here, by the way. If I were the victim of a crime, I would totally trust you all to pick apart my murder/disappearance with respect.
 
Anybody else ever been approached by panhandlers, hustlers, hookers, or con-artists, and get that tinge of fear up the spine? Multiply that by 1000 and you may get the idea of my horrors, and why I should shutup!
 
MAVLEY said:
I'm just saying that in most cases that I can recall, the bodies are not left on the edge of a creek or river, murderers typically dispose everything into the water to help hide evidence. Not saying this is always true but it's a thought.
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Or he could have gotten a text that he was needed at work. Trying to be discreet. Jmo
 
skibaboo said:
That made me really quite sad when they finished talking enthusiastically about the concert and asked if anyone had any questions, only to be met by silence. Pass the mike over to MP and all the reporters have questions about the case and if there is any new info. I understand we are all desperate to know but cmon.
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I got the same feeling. There was a lot of silence in between questions. And even the questions about the case were not that forthcoming, the press was not clamouring to have questions answered, even about the case. I had a strange feeling about it and the guys looks a bit taken aback by the sort of lack of enthusiasm by the media.

Maybe having a press conference was not the best way to discuss the plans about the baseball field? Perhaps tv news interviews, good morning shows, etc. might have been a more welcoming venue? IDK:thinking:

It was heart-warming to see the two families side by side and looking so comfortable together though.
 
Idareyato said:
Anybody else ever been approached by panhandlers, hustlers, hookers, or con-artists, and get that tinge of fear up the spine? Multiply that by 1000 and you may get the idea of my horrors, and why I should shutup!
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Sorry not sure what you mean. "horrors" of what, from what?
 
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