IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #64

[Shiressleuth]

As far as the FBI arriving on the day of the disappearance, it was due to the proximity of an FBI agents home to where the girls went missing. Who participated as a volunteer in the search & offered the resources of the FBI to assist in the investigation.

Do you have a link for that? We could remember the basics but not the detail.
Welcome Ss BTW. Same initials as me. :smile:

 

[Shiressleuth]

Just bumping as we have newbies.
Nb. eye color unknown but witness states not blue and depicts a hat that may not be accurate. Also the release of the sketch stated it came "in part" from a witness which indicates to me it could be part from a witness, part from the video and part from Parabon.

 

[TeaTime]

If the scruffy hair is from the eye witness, then this guy hadn't had a haircut in 6 weeks and was due for one. Just saying. It is a clue. Check the local barbers and chop shops. People tend to return to the same place for a cut.

 

[deedee21]

Sunday will be six months since the girls were killed.
No arrest have been made. This is very discouraging. What exactly does this mean? Does it mean LE has no leads? Does it mean theres a lead in one of the tips LE has not looked at yet? Perhaps they know who it is and its a matter of tracking him down?
I hope hes arrested soon. I want the whole country to see this monster do the perp walk.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Just to confirm the poster is saying the suspect is wanted and is displaying the video still of BG and the sketch of newsboy side by side. This seems to indicate one perp only otherwise it would say suspects (plural) imo. It also has the details of the "down the hill" audio, again presumably from the same BG/newsboy perp.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Wow, check this out. I came across this article while researching in another case (Adrienne Salinas). O/T, but it addresses some DNA stuff we've been discussing re: ancestry, etc:

How forensic genealogy led to an arrest in the Phoenix 'Canal Killer' case
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...iller-case-bryan-patrick-miller-dna/94565410/

"Using a method with little precedent in the world of criminal justice, a California genealogist named Colleen Fitzpatrick handed police what would amount to a case-busting lead: the suspect’s last name.

“The name Miller came up in my analysis,” Fitzpatrick wrote in an email that she later forwarded to investigators."

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"In a Dec.27, 2014 email, Fitzpatrick mentions the private commercial companies Family Tree DNA and Ancestry.com — which both have their own database of DNA profiles — and a commercial kit called Y-filer. Fitzpatrick notes that only Family Tree DNA has a certain marker test from a certain area in the profile.

Fitzpatrick already has flagged the surname by this email.

“I checked Ancestry.com briefly to see if there were any Millers living in the apartment complex near the Canal,” she wrote. “Of course there were quite a few. I haven't had a chance to look through them to see if there is a benefit for making the map — it may be too crowded.”

In an email from Fitzpatrick to a conference employee written shortly after Miller’s arrest in January 2015, Fitzpatrick said Miller had been on Phoenix police’s “extensive list of candidates.”

The fact that the name “Miller” emerged in her analysis, she said, “caus(ed) the Phoenix PD to take a closer look at him.

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Collen Fitzpatrick was involved in the identification of Lori Erica Ruff/Kimberly Mclean. IIRC, she is a member here at WS and has posted in the Lori Erica Ruff case.

Let's hope she's seen this one and is on it.

 

[anotherjenny]

Oklahoma teen runaway found in Carroll County, man arrested
http://www.wlfi.com/story/36112661/...uties-find-oklahoma-runaway-in-carroll-county

"Sheriff Tobe Leazenby says it started when deputies responded to a 911 hangup at Wildwood Trailer Court on Wednesday. They found the girl with two older men from Illinois.

One of them was 36-year-old Matthew McNair. Investigators learned he was a registered sex offender in Bureau County, Illinois, and had an active warrant in Stark County, Illinois."

Interesting. That nose.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

That's so weird. Longshoreman caps don't have flaps.

Maybe some witnesses didn't see flaps? There must be a really good reason why the sketch isn't an exact representation of what the monster was wearing.

Maybe they have someone in their sights, but can't tie him to the crime. Maybe the perp typically wears this type of hat and they wanted to send the perp a message.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Do you have a link for that? We could remember the basics but not the detail.
Welcome Ss BTW. Same initials as me. :smile:

My own links got buried awhile back, but I remember reading about the local FBI volunteer as well. I'd guess a few others in here also remember it.

 

[Suglo]

As far as the FBI arriving on the day of the disappearance, it was due to the proximity of an FBI agents home to where the girls went missing. Who participated as a volunteer in the search & offered the resources of the FBI to assist in the investigation.

This is what I recall also but don't have a link for it.

 

[twenty11]

This is an unusual cap. If he was local and frequently wore this distinctive cap, people would remember it and would have turned him in to LE. He's a transient, IMO. How far away is the nearest train track?

i'm sure I read that they asked to focus on facial features as they weren't positive of the hat

 

[Shiressleuth]

i'm sure I read that they asked to focus on facial features as they weren't positive of the hat

Yes. The wanted poster states that the hat may not be accurate. Don't focus on t'hat.

 

[coastal]

Collen Fitzpatrick was involved in the identification of Lori Erica Ruff/Kimberly Mclean. IIRC, she is a member here at WS and has posted in the Lori Erica Ruff case.

Let's hope she's seen this one and is on it.

How cool is that!?

Shout out to Collen!

 

[Hoosier952]

Maybe they have someone in their sights, but can't tie him to the crime. Maybe the perp typically wears this type of hat and they wanted to send the perp a message.

I wonder how many males have been questioned but wouldn't give up DNA samples? I seem to recall LE mentioning that's it's possible (or was it probable?) they've already spoken to the suspect. They've been about as clear as mud when reporting on this case. My heart wishes they had a good idea, but my gut says they're absolutely clueless.

Interesting. That nose.

I was looking at that. While I wouldn't describe it as bulbous, but what appears to be a slight curve to the right (our left) and the flatter bridge that appear in both the sketch and the mugshot are eerily similar. Nothing else really looks that similar to the sketch, but without knowing if it's a 5 month stale witness recollection, grainy cell phone footage, and/or Parabon that provided the sketch, who knows what we're actually looking for. No matter, I'm sure he'll be questioned and hopefully swabbed for DNA.

 

[margarita25]

Collen Fitzpatrick was involved in the identification of Lori Erica Ruff/Kimberly Mclean. IIRC, she is a member here at WS and has posted in the Lori Erica Ruff case.

Let's hope she's seen this one and is on it.

Really?? Wow!!! What a coincidence. We need to invite her here!!

 

[margarita25]

Yes. The wanted poster states that the hat may not be accurate. Don't focus on t'hat.

Ok, I'll try!

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/419749627742566061/

 

[kizzykat]

JC Online news has some new articles just out:
http://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2017/08/11/delphi-changed-killing-its-teenagers/555834001/

http://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2017/08/11/delphi-murders-6-months-later-what-we-know/555807001/

 

[justanotheruser]

In the many discussions about the hat - I know LE said don't focus on it but I'm focusing more about what was said at the presser about the sketch . . . Did we agree that there are flaps on the hat in the bridge pic? Where LE says "we don't need people saying well the flaps are down in the other picture (referring to the bridge pic being diff from the sketch) . . . I'm sure I missed this somewhere but too much to read. Thanks!

 

[LauranUK]

I don't know if this has been covered (I don't have time to go back and read every thread. But are there ( or were there) any homeless camps around the area where the girls were found?

I ask because another poster mentioned how BG could be homeless and living off grid. This reminded me of a local case a few years ago. There was a homeless camp set up along side a creek on private property in my community. The property owner was fine with the people living in tents on the land as long as they didn't make a nuisance of themselves. The camp was there for quite some time until the local authorities got wind of the camp's existence then they told the property owner he could not have the people living like that on his land.

If there was a homeless camp nearby BG could have been living there. This explains how he could have known the area, then after he killed the girls he simply moved along to another place/ camp elsewhere.

This is just a random theory.

 

[ImnoSherlock]

JC Online news has some new articles just out:
http://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2017/08/11/delphi-changed-killing-its-teenagers/555834001/

http://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2017/08/11/delphi-murders-6-months-later-what-we-know/555807001/

According to the story in the second link,not only has his weight changed,but the height has changed as well.
"The killer is described as a white man who weighs between 180 and 200 pounds. He stands between 5-feet, 6-inches tall and 5-feet, 8-inches tall, police said."