IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #71

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Crime watch daily is supposed to do a bit on this case today. Fyi


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Megster024 said:
For the record I did misread and hear. Walking away. Sorry!


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It's a fast moving thread. There have been over 70 fast moving threads in this case. And now without the info we want it's :maddening:
You're a good :websleuther: Keep it up!
 
Heathyheath_ said:
That would be true if they'd said that and not that they were referring to the high level of media attention that the tip had got. My belief that DN was involved is waning as well but acting like LE said something different than what they did isn't going to help.

If it was essentially a useless tip with no possibility of being connected to DN, then surely they would be able to rule him out right?
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Counter Point

They would be remiss to exclude him based on his own self-serving statements, if he gave any. They are still going to examine his statements to determine his whereabouts on Feb 13 and cant do that from CO.

Also, remember this: DN had outstanding warrants in IN. When picked up in CO, those warrants showed up and CO contacted IN just like they are supposed to. None of the warrants were such that would trigger extradition but he is an RSO who fell off the radar and IN had to follow up on him. The only way they could talk to him was to travel to CO.
 
FIgnacio said:
IMO, this was planned, the killer thought of all the details and possibilities to did no reach him.
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Could it be not just "him" but them as didn't LE say there could be more than 1 involved? And what was the "twist" in the case hmmm just wondering. Hope today is the day BG or whom ever did this to Liberty and Abigail get arrested. (if it isn't DN). Someone surely must recognize some resemblance of BG bridge pic JMO
 
Peace777 said:
Could it be not just "him" but them as didn't LE say there could be more than 1 involved? And what was the "twist" in the case hmmm just wondering. Hope today is the day BG or whom ever did this to Liberty and Abigail get arrested. (if it isn't DN). Someone surely must recognize some resemblance of BG bridge pic JMO
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I always thought there was more than one person involved. JMO
 
JMO/speculation - Maybe LE is trying to sweat him out. Like if they didn't have DNA or something significant to put him at the crime scene, they might be like well, we have all this evidence to process, it's going to be bad news for you when we get it back or you could just come clean now and we could help you out...

I seriously watch a lot of crime TV so yeah, JMO (not even an opinion actually just a thought really)

Also, MOO, but maybe they are asking for more tips so that now that there's a POI people that know him or met him can be like, oh, hmm, you know, there was that time DN did/said/was etc and they can get more specific tips and be able to place him in Delphi on and around 02/13/17.
 
( :waiting: )

This is like watching hair grow or waiting for water to boil, but obviously much worse.
 
Peace777 said:
Could it be not just "him" but them as didn't LE say there could be more than 1 involved? And what was the "twist" in the case hmmm just wondering. Hope today is the day BG or whom ever did this to Liberty and Abigail get arrested. (if it isn't DN). Someone surely must recognize some resemblance of BG bridge pic JMO
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My memory could be sketchy but wasn't all the talk about the twist and the fact this case was much different from a usual one, said before it was revealed that they had caught their own killer on camera and video? I have a feeling like it was and hence the big twist has already been revealed but I'm not sure
 
Hey WSers -

I just got a gig (I work freelance) that is going to keep me away from the board for the rest of the week. I'll try to pop in to see if there are developments, but if there is a big break over the next few days - like DN is charged or cleared - could someone send me a DM? Pretty please.

tyvm
 
Recent updates lead me to believe LE either collected a useless sample of DNA that doesn't belong to either girl or LE did not collect foreign DNA from the scene(s).

None of the recent print articles even reference DNA... hmm, interesting, and LE's interview of DN to determine a possible connection seems to have led to nothing useful as of yet.

Another aspect to consider is if there is close-up or even long-distance video of BG, as opposed to only a possible voice recording, I imagine LE would have released at least a brief clip showing BG's gait or more of his face.

If LE likes DN for this case it surely hasn't been bolstered by anything I've read as of late.
 
ImnoSherlock said:
ISP CIO Dave Bursten says the only thing good to come out of the tip was it heightened awareness to the case.Sounds like the Co. trip was a bust.
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...ations-neither-includedor-excluded-as-suspect
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ezrah said:
It's hard to figure out what he's saying there! More dancing a jig around the facts of the case? Waving everyone off DN? DN still in the mix but maybe not the only perp? They have a long way to go, could take weeks he says. Very confusing imo.


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Jumping off ezrah's post, I have quoted exactly what the reporter, Paris Lewbel, said ( starting at approximately, 1:18 ) in the video from the link above.

"... Now sources tell us they are still looking through that evidence they collected in Colorado. There are still tests that have to be done. It'll be many WEEKS before they can definitively say that Nations IS part of this case or NOT part of this case..."


BBM

Hmmm... Is making any decision a bit premature?

Looks like we may have a very long wait before we could declare the Colorado trip a bust...

( I know everyone only wants justice for the girls and the responsible person caught...)

JMO...
 
ChuckMaureen said:
Recent updates lead me to believe LE either collected a useless sample of DNA that doesn't belong to either girl or LE did not collect foreign DNA from the scene(s).

None of the recent print articles even reference DNA... hmm, interesting, and LE's interview of DN to determine a possible connection seems to have led to nothing useful as of yet.

Another aspect to consider is if there is close-up or even long-distance video of BG, as opposed to only a possible voice recording, I imagine LE would have released at least a brief clip showing BG's gait or more of his face.

If LE likes DN for this case it surely hasn't been bolstered by anything I've read as of late.
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If LE has indeed collected foreign DNA from the scene(s) and haven't yet developed a proper profile then it is useless and LE has no choice but to rely on DN interviews, BG-appearance witnesses and a bunch of dumb luck.

Of course there is the audio recording from one of the girl's mobile phone... is DN's voice a match? Again, recent print articles offer no reference to this element of the case.
 
Someone can give me information about DN?


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JazzTune said:
Jumping off ezrah's post, I have quoted exactly what the reporter, Paris Lewbel, said ( starting at approximately, 1:18 ) in the video from the link above.

"... Now sources tell us they are still looking through that evidence they collected in Colorado. There are still tests that have to be done. It'll be many WEEKS before they can definitively say that Nations IS part of this case or NOT part of this case..."


BBM

Hmmm... Is making any decision a bit premature?

Looks like we may have a very long wait before we could declare the Colorado trip a bust...

( I know everyone only wants justice for the girls and the responsible person caught...)

JMO...
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I consider it a bust right now as far as them escorting him back to Indiana.I'm not saying they didn't get anything useful,I'm just saying he didn't come back with them and that's what I wanted,so for me,it was a bust.As with everything that's all subject to change since they did say they are going over evidence they brought back. But for me right now,little pissed he didn't come back.So that's what the comment about the trip being a bust meant from my point of view right now.
 
Police review info after tip possibly links man to Delphi double homicides


http://wishtv.com/2017/10/03/police...ossibly-links-man-to-delphi-double-homicides/


snip:


In terms of this case, Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said, “There’s been no charges brought against anyone.”


Leazenby said investigators are sorting through hundreds of other tips and leads.

“Someday, we will be in that courthouse across the street,” he said. “We have to make sure all the facts are lined up correctly. If we don’t, we only get one chance at this.”

BBM (do you think that part is possibly referring to DN?)
 
ImnoSherlock said:
I consider it a bust right now as far as them escorting him back to Indiana.I'm not saying they didn't get anything useful,I'm just saying he didn't come back with them and that's what I wanted,so for me,it was a bust.As with everything that's all subject to change since they did say they are going over evidence they brought back. But for me right now,little pissed he didn't come back.So that's what the comment about the trip being a bust meant from my point of view right now.
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Oh, I get you! I DID misunderstand your meaning. Thanks for explaining it further. Yes, that makes sense...
 
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